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Posted by Will Walker on 03-27-2020 03:54 AM:

Curious ?

As i sit at the house with nothing much to do because of the rain tonight ive been meaning to post and ask this question.... Has anybody ever saw someone either who has hunted awhile or someone just starting out been given a pretty good old broke dog that still has some winning left in it,usually for free, then when the dog either gets too old to hunt or dies the hunter usually lacks patience,time,or knowledge to break a pup and eventually quits hunting altogether. Ive saw this on several occasions in just a small radius of where i live in Ohio. Whats everyones thoughts on this and is this common in other areas ? Not posting this in a rude way but this hurts coonhunting as a whole, ive often wondered if some of the individuals had to break a pup theirself theyd still be out beating the timber.


Posted by Clovis A Nailor on 03-27-2020 11:50 AM:

Very few people are life long hound chasers. It is just born in you to hunt hounds of any type. You just don't know how many people I know that get into hounds for a while and then give up on it. My brother for instances had one of the best hounds I've ever hunted with he did alot of winning in the hunts with her she was just a coon treeing machine. When she was gone he just lost interest. I believe if you start out with a bunch of sorry dogs and work your way up to a top hound and make it through all that you'll be a hounds man for life. Anyone can buy a top hound but when you raise and train a hound that becomes a top hound you'll appreciate what it takes and goes into making a hound. And when you go through all the prospects of going to be's and finally get a is'am your a real dog man and will be till you just can't go to the tree anymore. And when you can't go to the tree anymore you'll get some rabbit dogs and sit by the fire just listening to them run. That's my opinion on the question.


Posted by Bruce m. Conkey on 03-27-2020 11:51 AM:

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I have never seen it but perhaps this could be part of the explanation. Many people are in this sport and do it several ways. From Pleasure Hunting to Comp Hunting. From enjoying the training of pups to seeing the Youth get involved. You take the thousands of people and when their dog dies or hunting land goes away. Thats the little shove to just stop coon hunting. They had a good time but the fun is over for them. They have a reason to do something else without quitting on what they were doing. It quit them.

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Posted by Clovis A Nailor on 03-27-2020 12:18 PM:

Bruce, I'll go along with that. I've ran foxhounds my whole life but with the lose of land and the hatred of a running hound put me out of the running hound business. I ran in the foxpens for a good while but it just wasn't the same. And really if I had to travel to coon hunt I don't think I would coonhunt. And on a another note I'll be ordering a tt15 from you this weekend president Trump said he was going to buy it for me.


Posted by Melblank on 03-27-2020 12:31 PM:

I have been coon hunting for about 35 years and still love it. I realized early on that I didn’t have the patience or time to train a pup so I have always bought mine young and started. It’s been my experience, and maybe I am wrong, most people don’t take a good luck at their lifestyle and decide they are not a trainer and the pup suffers for it.


Posted by Clovis A Nailor on 03-27-2020 12:41 PM:

Young and started is the most critical time of a dogs life. I love starting dogs and starting them is the easy part. To finish a started dog is the hard part.


Posted by shadinc on 03-27-2020 03:38 PM:

I once read that the average length of time a person stays with a hobby is three years.

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Posted by micooner on 03-27-2020 04:52 PM:

To answer your question yes it happens in all areas. Numerous reasons, boredom, don't want to mess with a pup and so on.


Posted by DL NH on 03-27-2020 05:45 PM:

.......and then there are folks who just get into it for the fellowship of being with others. This type usually focuses more on the friendship aspect of the sport than on the hounds performance end. They tend to be short timers in the sport also. Over the years it seems to me that many people won't coon hunt alone, just them and their hound(s). Same thing for many that run rabbit/Hare hounds.

90-95% of the time I hunt alone. Not because I have to but because I enjoy the time alone and don't have to be concerned with all the things that can go on when you're hunting with someone else and their hounds. Also I can come and go as I choose without being concerned about inconviencing someone else.

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Posted by croatankid on 03-27-2020 06:46 PM:

One of my earliest memories is of my older cousins dragging an old dried up coon skin around the yard with some hounds after it. I fox hunted with my grandfather but I was just the gopher for him. I think it has to be imprinted on you as a young man or boy for it to stick.

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Posted by FLYbyNIGHT on 03-27-2020 07:13 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis A Nailor
Very few people are life long hound chasers. It is just born in you to hunt hounds of any type. You just don't know how many people I know that get into hounds for a while and then give up on it. My brother for instances had one of the best hounds I've ever hunted with he did alot of winning in the hunts with her she was just a coon treeing machine. When she was gone he just lost interest. I believe if you start out with a bunch of sorry dogs and work your way up to a top hound and make it through all that you'll be a hounds man for life. Anyone can buy a top hound but when you raise and train a hound that becomes a top hound you'll appreciate what it takes and goes into making a hound. And when you go through all the prospects of going to be's and finally get a is'am your a real dog man and will be till you just can't go to the tree anymore. And when you can't go to the tree anymore you'll get some rabbit dogs and sit by the fire just listening to them run. That's my opinion on the question.


Good answer


Posted by FLYbyNIGHT on 03-27-2020 07:15 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis A Nailor
Bruce, I'll go along with that. I've ran foxhounds my whole life but with the lose of land and the hatred of a running hound put me out of the running hound business. I ran in the foxpens for a good while but it just wasn't the same. And really if I had to travel to coon hunt I don't think I would coonhunt. And on a another note I'll be ordering a tt15 from you this weekend president Trump said he was going to buy it for me.



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Posted by delta nightlife on 03-28-2020 03:57 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by croatankid
One of my earliest memories is of my older cousins dragging an old dried up coon skin around the yard with some hounds after it. I fox hunted with my grandfather but I was just the gopher for him. I think it has to be imprinted on you as a young man or boy for it to stick.

That is it right there I was daddy’s gopher to lol

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Posted by Will Walker on 03-29-2020 05:51 AM:

Re: .

quote:
Originally posted by Bruce m. Conkey
I have never seen it but perhaps this could be part of the explanation. Many people are in this sport and do it several ways. From Pleasure Hunting to Comp Hunting. From enjoying the training of pups to seeing the Youth get involved. You take the thousands of people and when their dog dies or hunting land goes away. Thats the little shove to just stop coon hunting. They had a good time but the fun is over for them. They have a reason to do something else without quitting on what they were doing. It quit them.
Thanks for all the replies, im just curious as to what others thought. I just cant seem to quit even though ive run out of land to hunt and mainly hunt state ground which closes at the end of April. Im 45 and hunted with a guy across the road from me that had plotts when i was just in grade school. Got my first hound from the dog pound that was a walker/blutick cross. Wasnt allowed to keep him at first so had him tied up in the woods up the road from my house and would ride my bike to the feed mill about 3 miles away and would bring his food home on a bicycle and dump it in a barrel i kept by him and had him close to a creek for water. Ive since had several hounds and maybe 2 i considered above average. I have one of the nicest young dogs ive ever turned loose right now that has me fired up like never before. Im always plugging away trying to make something. I believe because ive never been given anything ill always have a dog of my own to mess with.


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