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Handling a treed dog
Okay 4 dog cast dog a treed. 2 minutes gone dog b trees split. 4 minutes gone dog c splits from both. Dog d covers b. Now that all dogs are split we'll say 800 apart who has right to handle Their dog according to the rules. Please post the rules with your answer.
Takes a majority to score dog A’s tree he was treed first so he is handled and scored first.
Tar
Scoreing dogs
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As long as the cast is "not" in the process of shining a tree....
"permission shall be given to handle your split treed dog(s).
So all handlers have the "right " to handle their split tree dog(s).
And score them in the most convenient order !.....not necessarily in the called treed order .
Majority
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Originally posted by yadkintar
Takes a majority to score dog A’s tree he was treed first so he is handled and scored first.
Tar
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Originally posted by Dogwhisper
Scoreing dogs
11:c
As long as the cast is "not" in the process of shining a tree....
"permission shall be given to handle your split treed dog(s).
So all handlers have the "right " to handle their split tree dog(s).
And score them in the most convenient order !.....not necessarily in the called treed order .
Until Jan 1st, everyone handles their dog and meets at Dog A's tree to score it and then go to next dog until all trees are scored.
After Jan 1st new rules start and everyone is waiting to see what the official ruling will be.
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Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Until Jan 1st, everyone handles their dog and meets at Dog A's tree to score it and then go to next dog until all trees are scored.
After Jan 1st new rules start and everyone is waiting to see what the official ruling will be.![]()
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Originally posted by yadkintar
[ You got to have 3 out of 4 handlers to score the tree anyways.
Tar [/B]
He has to be there unless he withdraws or if there is a non hunting judge. A majority of 3 dog cast would be 2 wouldn’t it ?
Tar
Re: Handling a treed dog
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Originally posted by nextcoonhunters
....Now that all dogs are split we'll say 800 apart who has right to handle Their dog according to the rules.....
Re: Re: Handling a treed dog
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Originally posted by Richard Lambert
I just answered the question as asked. Per the rules, everyone can handle their dog by themselves if they want to and meet at A's tree.
Calling time out between trees would only come into play when you left A's tree after scoring it and went to each tree.
Question wasn't asked but a majority of a 4 Dog cast is 3. If only 3 people go to a tree, it is still a 4 Dog cast. Rule does not say "majority of handlers at the tree". Rule says "majority of the cast". So, everyone must go to every tree.![]()
I have done it before. They are "Honor Rules". If we don't have honor, we might as well stay home.
The only catch is, they have to walk 800 yds to their dog's tree, 800 yds back to the tree being scored and than 800 yds back to their tree to score it. Or they can just leave their dog treed, score the first tree with the cast and then everyone can go score their tree.
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Originally posted by Richard Lambert
I have done it before. They are "Honor Rules". If we don't have honor, we might as well stay home.
The only catch is, they have to walk 800 yds to their dog's tree, 800 yds back to the tree being scored and than 800 yds back to their tree to score it. Or they can just leave their dog treed, score the first tree with the cast and then everyone can go score their tree.![]()
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Originally posted by yadkintar
Isn't that what the world hunt redoo was about ? I ain’t letting anybody handle their dog by their self !! Especially 800 yards deep.
After the first of the year I will hold off treeing my dog till there is only 2 minutes of shine time left on dog A’s tree he will recut but he will be to late to back me. Tar
Okay here is another question.
Hunt time has ran out, your walking to last dog treed, your walking in an open field, everyone stops about 30 yards from tree and see the hound up on the tree. You ask if you can handle the dog and yes you can is said. About 15 feet from tree the dogs gets excited comes off of tree and starts running around and jumps up on the tree next to it and barks and goes back to original tree and starts treeing again and comes to you. The dog has been there for about 45 minutes. Coon is seen in tree. Trees are close enough that they have branched into one another. Do you minus that dog?
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Originally posted by Richard Lambert
The world hunt redo wasn't about anything like that. And I sure am glad that I haven't gone through life with an attitude like that.
After the 1st of the year there will be a lot of different strategies used by some very smart handlers.![]()
Oh my goodness Mr Tarbaby, in the original scenario with all dogs treed in just what would you do if you were the handler of Dog A?
If I had dog A down here I would get to score my dog because these handlers wouldn’t be so stupid to tree their dogs that deep and all split up and use valuable hunting time it takes 20 or 30 minutes to walk 800 yards here. Then you tie your dog up walk back to dog A and they blow the reeds out of their sqauller and squall your coon down with your dog tied up and you get a minus for a slick tree. Plus if all the handlers split up and dogs move how you going to vote who knows if the tree they tied their dog to was the one they originally treed on at 800 yards you go to ole spark plug he has a slick persimmon tree who’s going to know if you move him over to a den or you see a coon setting up. I thought you was a super handler ?
Tar
Re: Okay here is another question.
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Originally posted by MIKE CARDER
Hunt time has ran out, your walking to last dog treed, your walking in an open field, everyone stops about 30 yards from tree and see the hound up on the tree. You ask if you can handle the dog and yes you can is said. About 15 feet from tree the dogs gets excited comes off of tree and starts running around and jumps up on the tree next to it and barks and goes back to original tree and starts treeing again and comes to you. The dog has been there for about 45 minutes. Coon is seen in tree. Trees are close enough that they have branched into one another. Do you minus that dog?
Oh my goodness, you would make a great politician. All of that typing/talking and you never answered the question, "what would you do in this situation"?
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Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Oh my goodness, you would make a great politician. All of that typing/talking and you never answered the question, "what would you do in this situation"?![]()
Re: Okay here is another question.
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Originally posted by MIKE CARDER
Hunt time has ran out, your walking to last dog treed, your walking in an open field, everyone stops about 30 yards from tree and see the hound up on the tree. You ask if you can handle the dog and yes you can is said. About 15 feet from tree the dogs gets excited comes off of tree and starts running around and jumps up on the tree next to it and barks and goes back to original tree and starts treeing again and comes to you. The dog has been there for about 45 minutes. Coon is seen in tree. Trees are close enough that they have branched into one another. Do you minus that dog?
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Originally posted by yadkintar
I told you get the hair out of your ears these guys ain’t big dummy’s down here but hey if you want to walk all over the place and tie your dog and walk all the way back and I got first strike and first tree with a coon. And I squall your coon down and you get a slick tree minus and you wanna burn the whole hunt up walking for nothing go ahead.
Tar
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Originally posted by Richard Lambert
I am a little confused but I think that you are saying, " yes you would let all handlers go by themselves if they wanted to and handle their dog and return to score your tree". Is that correct? Isn't that the same as my answer? What are we disagreeing about?![]()
Oh my goodness, I bet that you are a real pleasure to draw out with in a nite hunt.
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