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Posted by Black And Tan Man on 06-06-2019 10:46 AM:

Dog Burnt Out

I've got an older male that was setting the world on fire at 1.5 years old (I did not own him). For whatever reason, he got burnt out and quit treeing. Now I got him and am trying to get him back at it. He hasn't been hunted in 2.5 years. Ive been hunting him, he will get in the dark, strike, push it and tap the tree, then go on. Any ideas?


Posted by 2ol2hunt on 06-06-2019 04:56 PM:

If he's doing all that he's not burnt out,a burnt out dog means he has quit and lost his desire, something else happened to him that you may not be aware of,and that could be several different things. Hope he comes back around for you.


Posted by Richard Edinger on 06-06-2019 05:39 PM:

If they got a lot of live coon out on him he may be tired of getting chewed up..

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 06-06-2019 06:59 PM:

Take him to the vet and get him tested for tick disease and a thyroid level done.


Posted by Black And Tan Man on 06-06-2019 07:03 PM:

He did have heartworm when I got him but has been cured and he is back to 100%. The only thing I know is he had a ton of coon shot out to him when he was young and did get worked over by one. He will back another dog on the tree but by himself, its one or two locates and then moves on.

What are the symptoms of thyroid/tick diseases in hounds? One thing I noticed when he did back my dog on the tree was his mouth. He foamed really bad, and seemed out of breath. It wasn't hot out and he was probably barking around 70 per minute, not real fast. Any suggestions?


Posted by Rolin Blues on 06-06-2019 08:28 PM:

treeing

Try to stay close (50 yds.) or so, but not too close to interfer with him working his track. When he locates a tree pin point it on Garmin, so you have a real close idea of of the tree he was on. Then, if you can tell he is leaving on Garmin, tone or LIGHTLY tap him with shock to get him back on tree(or in area). Try to find coon if at all possible, put him on tree till he gets really wound up, then give him a "coon treat". Don't always work, but may be worth a shot to save him. Worst part now is to find coon in the tree with all the leaves on. Take care, Ron.


Posted by chuck west on 06-06-2019 09:26 PM:

A lot of dogs with ear issues don't want to bark up . Get his ear checked .

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Posted by pigsit on 06-06-2019 09:35 PM:

The first thing to do is resolve all the medical issues, neg for tick diseases, clear ears, etc., too I had a dog treated about ten years ago for heart worm, after treatment she was a total idiot for a year. She finally came around, but it seemed to take forever. A dog layed up for 2 1/2 years, probably ain't gonna come back real fast. I would just haul him with my old dog and see what happens.

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 06-06-2019 10:09 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Black And Tan Man
He did have heartworm when I got him but has been cured and he is back to 100%.

What are the symptoms of thyroid/tick diseases in hounds? One thing I noticed when he did back my dog on the tree was his mouth. He foamed really bad, and seemed out of breath. It wasn't hot out and he was probably barking around 70 per minute, not real fast. Any suggestions?



Heartworms damage the heart muscle. They don't come back 100%. They never tree as hard, foam at the mouth and can't take the heat.

#1 symptom of Thyroid disease and or tick disease is that they want to run/trail all night and not tree.

If your dog trees hard with another dog, then it's ears are fine.

A dog will also trail all night and tap trees when it is running a fox or coyote.

Live trap a coon and turn it loose to see what he does. If vet says he is ok then go with what Rollin Blues posted.


Posted by Black And Tan Man on 06-06-2019 10:16 PM:

I checked the records, he was neg. for everything but I have not had his thyroid checked. I hunted him last night, he struck, pushed the track, located and went on. I marked the tree and saw the coon. He kept going, located, went on. Same thing, coon in the tree. Something is keeping him from wanting to tree. He was a split, hold pressure tree dog when he was young. I would like other opinions on thyroid dogs, does this sound familier?


Posted by yadkintar on 06-06-2019 11:28 PM:

Sometimes the way they are is just the way they are !! He might not be treeing just because he don’t like to and don’t want to !! And in that case you ain’t going to make him !! I used to like to eat lemon pie when I was young can’t stand the stuff now !!



Just sayen !


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Posted by lblhunter on 06-07-2019 05:07 PM:

Member of our local club had a exceptional 15 month old male. Entered him in a bigger hunt and got chewed on by a dog. Now when he hunts him he will strike, open on track but when he puts the coon up won't pull another bark. Take the garmin to walk in to the tree and the dog will be on tree looking up but not barking. Sad thing is man that owned the ill dog knew cause he had been scratched for fighting before.


Posted by Blaze P. on 06-07-2019 05:32 PM:

Did you hunt with him when he was on fire? Or just told that? Seems odd a dandy would be doing great then penned up for that long.


Posted by CHEWBACH on 06-07-2019 05:38 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by yadkintar
Sometimes the way they are is just the way they are !! He might not be treeing just because he don’t like to and don’t want to !! And in that case you ain’t going to make him !! I used to like to eat lemon pie when I was young can’t stand the stuff now !!



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well you are finally coming around to my way of thinking tar. if all dogs could be made into goodens ! they would be goodens in ever ones yard.

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Posted by 4play on 06-07-2019 06:10 PM:

JMO

Get his ears checked for infection/fungus
Get his thyroid level checked

If all good;
turn live coon out,see what he does then.Hot coon should get him excited.He don't tree then,prob never will.

My female had super low thyroid{rocky mnt. fever;tic}.She would tree/locate every coon in woods but not stay.Got her thyroid level up to 2.5 Turned into Most accurate hound I've seen.Had her since 13 months,she's 10.5 yrs old now.I'm fussy and don't keep idiots long.

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Posted by Black And Tan Man on 06-07-2019 08:00 PM:

Thanks for all the input. I will get his thyroid checked.


Posted by dbender on 06-07-2019 09:52 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Blaze P.
Did you hunt with him when he was on fire? Or just told that? Seems odd a dandy would be doing great then penned up for that long.


THERE YOU GO! YOU COULD SPEND A FORTUNE LOOKING FOR AN EXCUSE BUT AFTER ALL IS SAID AND DONE YOU STILL HAVE A WORTHLESS DOG!


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