UKC Forums - Pitiful

Show all 11 posts from this thread on one page

UKC Forums (http://forums.ukcdogs.com/index.php)
- UKC Coonhounds (http://forums.ukcdogs.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=4)
-- Pitiful (http://forums.ukcdogs.com/showthread.php?threadid=928516245)

Posted by Cleo on 03-04-2019 01:01 PM:

Pitiful

It is just pitiful to see grown people bash youth handlers or the dogs they are handling!
I have witnessed this more then once and really have to bite my tongue.

With this sport doing all it can to survive, making kids feel stupid is really not a great way to try to keep it alive.

THINK before you speak! If it so hard that you can't, one day, and I hope I am there, someone will give you something to THINK about!

__________________
BROKEN ROAD KENNEL
Breeding for the future of the Treeing Walker
"God bless the Broken Road"
~A man is only as good as his word~

Proud home to;

'PR' Kentucky River Fly Again (Kentucky River Rowdy frozen semen)
ACHA CHT x3 Broken Roads Little Texas (Kentucky River Rowdy x Houses Lipper's Hope)
CH Broken Roads Southern Stylish Boom (Kentucky River Rowdy x Houses Lipper's Hope)
Broken Road's Rowdy Lil Miss (Kentucky River Rowdy x Houses Lipper's Hope)
Broken Road's Meabie I will (Lipper's Rooster x Missy)
Broken Roads IMA Boomer2 (UKC NATL GRCH GRNTCH Honest Abe x Broken Roads Southern Stylish Boom
~~~~~Watch out!~~~~~
They just might make an IMPACT!

and the girls...Punkin and Tater!

Gone by never forgotten ~ Fly high my beautiful angels
~ GRCH GNTCH PKC SC Toucan Sam
~CH Toucan's Ugly Betty
~ CCH CH Southforks September Rain
~ Martin's Daisy JJ (what a beautiful litter you left behind)
~ Luke, the lab who brought us so many doves and ducks over the years
~ UKC GRCH,ACHA CH 2014 LWCH 2014 2 x's ACHA YOUTH WCH AKC CH AKC CH 'PR' Kentucky River Mundar ~ (Kentucky River Rowdy frozen semen) DNA Profiled ~ Fly high, old friend.

"The WILL of God will never take you where the GRACE of God can not protect you!"

Posted by Roy Grant on 03-04-2019 01:09 PM:

Why are you biting your tongue? Say something

Posted by Bruce m. Conkey on 03-04-2019 01:21 PM:

My first thoughts were expressed in what Mr. Grant said.

Perhaps in the situation there was a lesson for the young person to learn. But remembering your talking to a young person and handling situations correctly is what separates many of us.

From what you said. I think two conversations from your side of the fence are warranted. One with you and the young person. To give them encouragement. The second is with the person you don't think is handling the situation with the young person correctly or bullying them around.
Calm gentle conversations in private can go a long ways to curing a lot of our problems.

We need to not dwell on our differences but share what we have in common.

__________________
www.ConkeysOutdoors.com
"Boss Lights"

Posted by Bill(Chew) on 03-04-2019 08:06 PM:

I got shamed by a bench show judge once when young because the dog was fat. It was many years before I showed a dog again.

__________________
Bill Harper
Washington, NC
252-944-5592

Posted by LMBEDDINGFIELD on 03-07-2019 03:30 PM:

youth

You can never ever take for granted what a youth see or hears. I have been very surprised over the years of judging many youth events the relationships that I have found with these youth. The want you to help them, instruct them and give the tips on what they should or should not do to become better handlers.

If you ever watch me judge a youth show you will often see me speaking to the youth during or after the show. Giving them some tips or advice to help them grow in our sport. I little help and encouragement goes a long way and trust me they don't forget it. I have them come up to me many times after said event and tell me Ms. Lisa I have been working on what you told me can I show you... I will always take a minute to watch them and help in anyway.

Now granted some of our youth are very sore losers because the come from parents who are sore losers and they do not know any better. But I even try to encourage them too.

Always remember there is somebody that is always watching you... you may not know it but someone is watching ..

__________________
Lisa Beddingfield
Flat Rock Kennels Home of
Melrose Mountain Black & Tans
shanelisa@bellsouth.net

GrCh Pr Melrose Mtn Lead Me Home "Mercy"
2020 Autumn Oaks National Grand Black and Tan
2019 Autumn Oaks National Grand Black and Tan
2017 Black and Tan Days Queen of Show
2017 World Champion Black & Tan Female
2018 Ch of Ch Female Grand American
2019 Ch of Ch Female Winter Classic
2019 Georgia State Show Champion
2020 SC State Queen of Show

Ch Melrose Mtn Diamond in the Rough "Coal"
2019 NC State Best Male of Show
2019 Autumn Oaks Best Male of Show
2019 World Champion B&T Male
2020 SC State Show Champion
2020 Autumn Oaks Champion B&T Male
2020 World Ch Black and Tan Male
2020 World Show Overall Opposite Sex
2020 Purina Nationals Black and Tan Winner

UKC and AKC GrCH Melrose Mtn Hint of Jasmine
2015 Southern English Days BFOS
2017 Southern English Days Ch Female
2018 Southern English Days GrCh Female
2015 Autumn Oaks BFOS
2016 English Day Champion Female and Overall Queen of Show
2018 Autumn Oaks Overall Opposite Sex National Grand
2020 World Champion English Female

UKC GrCh AKC GRCH Melrose Mtn This is My Town (T-Roy) Plott
2015 UKC NC State Opposite Sex Winner
2013 UKC Saluda Coondog Days Gr Male and King of Show
2013 UKC NPHA Plott Days Overall King of Show
2015 National Grand Plott
2018 National Grand Opposite Sex Plott

In Loving Memory
GrCh Melrose Mtn Lil Bit of Beau - "Tucker" 8-28-2006 to 1-21-2011
Ch Melrose Mtn Sugar and Spice "Sugar" 11-17-2011 to 4-6-2014

GrCh Melrose Mtn Amazing Gracie
8-28-2006 to 8-25-2019

GrCh Melrose Mtn Lily
8-26-2004 to 9-4-2019

Yesterday is History
Tomorrow is a Mystery
Today is a Gift
That's why we call it
"The Present"

Posted by Richard Lambert on 03-07-2019 05:33 PM:

Ms Beddingfield, I think the same is true for a lot of older handlers also. I have always been very appreciative of any advice from a judge. It doesn't just hold true for our youth.

Posted by LMBEDDINGFIELD on 03-08-2019 08:30 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Ms Beddingfield, I think the same is true for a lot of older handlers also. I have always been very appreciative of any advice from a judge. It doesn't just hold true for our youth.

Very True Mr. Lambert.....

I learned so much when I started out by watching, listening to advice and asking lots of questions from many who have done this a lot longer than I have. The best part those are some of the best friends on the circuit I have now.... I have given advice to the older ones as well... never to old to learn ... I learn something new everyday...

Posted by Pat Bizich on 03-09-2019 02:56 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by LMBEDDINGFIELD
Very True Mr. Lambert.....

I learned so much when I started out by watching, listening to advice and asking lots of questions from many who have done this a lot longer than I have. The best part those are some of the best friends on the circuit I have now.... I have given advice to the older ones as well... never to old to learn ... I learn something new everyday...

Funny you say this. I was the same way.Never forgot my first registered bluetick.I was green as green could be and struggling to get my first win .I actually asked the breeder for help as he was one of the better noted handlers in this area.I have never and will never forget his reply to this day.He looked me straight and said "I learned the hard way and you will learn the hard way."And he refused to give me tip one.
I asked questions win or lose.Probably made a lot of judges mad.No, matter of fact I know I made them mad.
I was told by a higher up that I did not need to ask questions about why my dog won or lost .That I have been around long enough that I should know all I need to know and don't need to be asking why my dog lost.(I may still have that letter.)

Well any time anyone thinks they know it all and have nothing left to learn is already pretty stupid.And for this person to say this to me to this day, I think it was an ignorant stupid thing to say.

I have never ever refused to help anyone and do my best when anyone asks for help to give them all the knowledge I can possibly give .I have done youth events and give them the utmost help possible whether they ask for help or not when I see them struggling.

__________________
IT SEEMS THAT EVERYTIME A BREED OR LINE OF DOGS GET POPULAR IT EVENTUALLY LEADS TO ITS RUINATION BY UNINFORMED PEOPLE BREEDING WITHOUT DOING THEIR RESEARCH FIRST.

Gone but never forgotten:
NtChGrCh Dryfork Punkin
NtChGrCh Dryfork Little Blue Baby Doll
2009 Pa Show Dog Of The Year
GrCh Dryfork Little Black Book
Gr.Ch. Make My Day Sunny
Gone too soon RIP my baby girl
Gr.Ch. Black Dog Black Cherry
GrCh Dryfork Black Dog Raine
One of kind and would make a believer out of you when you thought there were no coon left
Home of:
2009,2013,2018 Pa. State
Show Handler Of The Year
CH. Power Pack Pepper
2018 Pa. Show Dog Of Year
Gr.Ch. Batman's Poison Ivy
2011&2013 WTDA Pa State Champion
2011&2013 Overall Hunt For The Cure
Ch. Jay's Greenridge Heidi
In memory of my best friend "Jay"

Posted by Outback1 on 03-09-2019 04:43 AM:

I hunted 3 hunts when I started coon hunting at 18, I'm 56 now, I remember how I was treated as a kid, swore I wouldn't hunt in another hunt again! And I haven't, I figured by now the hunts would have been a memory. I like pleasure hunting though.

Posted by wjoey on 03-09-2019 01:17 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Ms Beddingfield, I think the same is true for a lot of older handlers also. I have always been very appreciative of any advice from a judge. It doesn't just hold true for our youth.

You never listen to any advice I give you

__________________
JOE WILBANKS
423-802-4115
The home where the big time winners come from

UKC PREFORMANCE SIRE Nt ch pkc ch BAM BAM The only one out of WORLD CH BIG D X GRNT SKIPPERS UMFORGIVEN SAIGE she has 21 pups 4nt ch 5 grnt ch thats 42.85%
He is a coon dog!
Nt ch ch Insane Minnie MouseInsane cain x Malden Branch Mouse

HOME OF 2 TIME AQHA HORSE OF THE YEAR
World champion working cow horse snaffle bit
SMART LITTLE LEGEND
ETCHA CHAMPION
HCHA CHAMPION
Top 16 NCHA WORLD Champion
Home of GHSRA All Around Cowboy Champion Chris wilbanks

Jerico Rebel our Movie star horse hes been in three films now 35 years old
Just passed away February 4th 2016

MY OLD DOGS GONE BUT NEVER FORGOTTEN
The one I will allways miss now deceased 01/09/2013
GR CH GRAND NT CH Handosme Trudy
SIRE PKC WLD CH GR NT WHATS UP DOC
DAM GR NT HUTCHINS SUGAR

GRCH GR NT CH COBBLER CREEK WENDY
GR NT STYLISH TUFF - WENDY X STYLISH LIPPER
GR NT STYLISH TACK - WENDY X STYLISH LIPPER

NT CH SOUTHERN STYLE - JP'S HIGH STYLE X HOUSES LADY

Posted by nextcoonhunters on 03-10-2019 03:24 AM:

Lonesome dove

It would depend on the situation. But my first thought when someone is being rude or just mean to a young person is the part in lonesome dove. You know after captain Cal beats the guy half to death than says hate Rude behavior in a man just won't tolerate it.

All times are GMT. The time now is 04:14 PM.

Show all 11 posts from this thread on one page