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Posted by bluecollar on 12-31-2018 05:46 PM:

Question I think I already know the answer....

My 2 year old female attacked another dog at the tree last night. I've had her out several times with several other dogs and never seen her do this. She started if for sure. Any way to break it early before it gets out of hand, or is it time to schedule a meeting with the good lord above? Only reason I'm asking is because I've never actually seen or had an aggressive female.

Thanks,

Adam

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Posted by shadinc on 12-31-2018 05:49 PM:

Re: Question I think I already know the answer....

quote:
Originally posted by bluecollar
My 2 year old female attacked another dog at the tree last night. I've had her out several times with several other dogs and never seen her do this. She started if for sure. Any way to break it early before it gets out of hand, or is it time to schedule a meeting with the good lord above? Only reason I'm asking is because I've never actually seen or had an aggressive female.

Thanks,

Adam

I would contact Wild Willy. He has a method that works.

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Posted by Jack Jacobs on 12-31-2018 06:54 PM:

If you end up wanting to part with her, send me a p.m.

Posted by Clif Owen on 12-31-2018 11:29 PM:

I hope she isn't but can say this: I haven't seen many females that were aggressive but those that were turned out to be REALLY bad. An aggressive male as a rule won't bother a female but an aggressive female is going to run everything off that will leave. Most of the time, a male won't fight back unless he's that way. Some females will fight back; others will just leave. Personally, if she can't break her; there is no way I'd ever take a chance on her being bred. The trait is definitely hereditary. 2 of the meanest females I ever saw were littermates.

Posted by N Williams on 12-31-2018 11:47 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Clif Owen
I hope she isn't but can say this: I haven't seen many females that were aggressive but those that were turned out to be REALLY bad. An aggressive male as a rule won't bother a female but an aggressive female is going to run everything off that will leave. Most of the time, a male won't fight back unless he's that way. Some females will fight back; others will just leave. Personally, if she can't break her; there is no way I'd ever take a chance on her being bred. The trait is definitely hereditary. 2 of the meanest females I ever saw were littermates.

I use to believe the same thing. Man needs to contact Wild Willy. If Willy would have raised the dog the dog would have never done that. Willy can rehabilitate a bad tree aggressive dog to move away from trouble. But I disagree it’s heriditary as a matter of fact I know it’s not. I’ve had several dogs that didn’t have a mean hair on them until they got treed. Those dogs are not genetically mean. He’s saved hundreds of dogs from the dirt nap with this problem.

Posted by bluecollar on 01-01-2019 02:39 AM:

See I was always under the impression that it was hereditary as well. But, either way, I sent a message to that wild will fella. Thanks for your help guys!

Adam

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Posted by Clif Owen on 01-01-2019 04:50 AM:

When you see a stud dog that most of his pups being ill; how can it NOT be genetic? I could see it if the pups are hunted with other dogs that are rough but sometimes they aren't.
In the case of the littermate sisters, they only hunted together when they drew out in same cast....once. But both were mean to the bone.

Posted by N Williams on 01-01-2019 12:06 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Clif Owen
When you see a stud dog that most of his pups being ill; how can it NOT be genetic? I could see it if the pups are hunted with other dogs that are rough but sometimes they aren't.
In the case of the littermate sisters, they only hunted together when they drew out in same cast....once. But both were mean to the bone.

Sometimes it is genetic. How come most dogs that are tree aggressive don’t start out that way? If you take the best dogs in the country and put them in a pen together throw a steak in the pen. If they fight over it are they mean? If me and you hunt tonight and our hounds tree together and don’t fight, but if we shoot the coon out and walk away what will eventually happen? So if they fight over the coon once it’s established as food are they mean?

Posted by yadkintar on 01-01-2019 12:12 PM:

Might be why dogs that are hunted in the hunts a lot become dead loners they get tired of being chewed on jmo.

Tar

Posted by RatDog on 01-01-2019 02:24 PM:

Willy

Any word on the mans book that's spose to be coming ??

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Posted by las123 on 01-01-2019 03:09 PM:

wild

wild willy is the place to go!!..i have for 1 had a male that was aggresive..i was ready to shoot.sent him to wild willy he did an amazing job with him!i am speaking from first hand experiance!you can ask him about yukon.as far as his book goes i think he is wrapping up the viedo part of it.good luck!!

Posted by N Williams on 01-01-2019 03:17 PM:

Re: Willy

quote:
Originally posted by RatDog
Any word on the mans book that's spose to be coming ??

It’s pretty much done. He’s doing videos to add to the book.

Posted by shadinc on 01-01-2019 04:26 PM:

If we have a method to stop it before it starts why does it matter if it's hereditary?

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Posted by shane_atchison on 01-01-2019 09:21 PM:

Wow!! Why would a person consider a man made method Vs. Heredity? I can give a pill for thyroid also but I'd rather have 1 didn't need it. It's similar to guys using training to make dogs independent that weren't that way naturally..

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Posted by Chuck Allen on 01-02-2019 04:08 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by N Williams
Sometimes it is genetic. How come most dogs that are tree aggressive don’t start out that way? If you take the best dogs in the country and put them in a pen together throw a steak in the pen. If they fight over it are they mean? If me and you hunt tonight and our hounds tree together and don’t fight, but if we shoot the coon out and walk away what will eventually happen? So if they fight over the coon once it’s established as food are they mean?

This ^ I always tie dogs back from the tree when I am going to shoot one out every dog gets some fur one at a time and when I say dead coon they drop it to many coon fights IMHO make mean dogs , my pot lickers catch enough coon on the ground I do not worry about do they really know what a coon is.

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Posted by shadinc on 01-02-2019 04:52 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by shane_atchison
Wow!! Why would a person consider a man made method Vs. Heredity? I can give a pill for thyroid also but I'd rather have 1 didn't need it. It's similar to guys using training to make dogs independent that weren't that way naturally..

Are you comparing giving a sick dog medicine to training one to act like you want it to act?

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Posted by joey on 01-02-2019 01:56 PM:

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Originally posted by shane_atchison
Wow!! Why would a person consider a man made method Vs. Heredity? I can give a pill for thyroid also but I'd rather have 1 didn't need it. It's similar to guys using training to make dogs independent that weren't that way naturally..

Its a man made method to fix a man made problem.

I'm skeptical of everything and figured all these folks talking about what Willie could do might have been a little full of it. Until I seen him help a guy break a 3 year old dog from chewing at the tree over the phone. A dog that chewed so bad it would stop barking for several min at a time. That was something I was always told by the experts couldn't be broke. Much less over the phone. None of us like to admit that there are people that just know way more than we do about something we fancy our self's as experts on.

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Posted by pamjohnson on 01-02-2019 02:11 PM:

I have a friend that tried willies method on a dog and it didn't work on his dog. Will his method work? Yes will it fix any and all problems? No.
Will I buy his book when it is available? Most likely

Posted by Richard Lambert on 01-02-2019 02:16 PM:

If the problem is man made, it can be fixed. If it is a physical problem then medicine can fix it. If it is a defect in his/her genes, it can't be fixed. Every dog and every problem is different. Buddy of mine called Willy and he helped him a bunch "over the phone".

Posted by yadkintar on 01-02-2019 02:19 PM:

I can fix a mean dog where it will never do it again.

Tar

Posted by Richard Lambert on 01-02-2019 02:39 PM:

Tarbaby, I bet the same cure works for treeing possums also and is quick and cheap.

Posted by yadkintar on 01-02-2019 02:56 PM:

In a perfect world I can trust a dog not to back on a possum but I could never trust a mean dog to not be mean if put in a situation that somthing pulled hair and started it most dogs can see their masters light coming a long ways some even learn to fling ivory in stealth mode. I breed my own dogs and it is trait that can be inherited jmo.

Tarbaby

Posted by shane_atchison on 01-02-2019 02:59 PM:

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Originally posted by shadinc
Are you comparing giving a sick dog medicine to training one to act like you want it to act?

I'm saying flaws in a dogs DNA shouldn't be overlooked. Nothing wrong with giving a dog the opportunities to do what comes naturally, but unfortunately this dog is ill. Can it be fixed? Possibly. Should she have the opportunity to reproduce? NO..

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Posted by shane_atchison on 01-02-2019 03:06 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by joey
[B]Its a man made method to fix a man made problem.

B]

Attacking another dog at the tree unprovoked is not a man made problem.

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Posted by shadinc on 01-02-2019 03:17 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by pamjohnson
I have a friend that tried willies method on a dog and it didn't work on his dog. Will his method work? Yes will it fix any and all problems? No.
Will I buy his book when it is available? Most likely

I know people that tried to teach their dog to sit and it didn't work.

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