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Game Drive
What line of hound has had the strongest game drive for you as a pup, alone, in recent years. I am looking for a line of dogs with a strong desire to go find something to run whenever its turned out.
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Not trying to disrespect no one. I was in a hunt the other week and fellows struck 2 dogs in the minute and when they got treed, were a mile and 1tenth with a dragster opposum. 😂 One was WO bred and other was H bred. I say they was game driven.
A few years ago, when it was still pretty concentrated, the Harry bred stuff was about as gamey as they come. Those dogs/pups were looking to put their nose on a track or their teeth into game when you turned them loose. They seemed to have some bad kennel manners (pacing, barking, etc.) associated with all that drive and energy, but when you got them focused, and had them hunted down, that line of dogs shot through the country looking to make something happen.
clover without a doubt they will run anything and want to do so. And I dont like em either
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I’ve hunted a bunch of dogs out of a bunch of different studs but I’m hunting the most junky pup I’ve ever hunted in my life right now. He can flat burn one through the country with or without anything with him. Most can’t keep up with him and he is out of Smirnoff!!
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Most Gamey litter of pups I ever saw were off a male that was out of Sunrise and Wipeout bred. The Dam was heavy Sackett bred.
That whole litter would back up from nothing and were going as far as it took through these swamps at 5 months of age. I very seldom ever have my dogs trash on bobcats. Cats didn't stand a chance with these pups. They all had a lot of fire in their belly's to get gone and run something.
I was not a fan of Sackett, Jr dogs many years ago. Even though they were winning and treeing coon all over the country. I wanted more of a track dog with some more accuracy for where I hunted. Just a personal thing, Time has changed things and now some old time Sackett Blood crossed on several of these other lines is having some outstanding results.
Get some good Sackett blood from a good reproducing female or male crossed on the following and you have something.
Bone Collector
Harry
Wipeout
No dig back as far as you can and breed as good a dog as you can out of the three above mentioned lines on a well bred Sackett hound and you will have all the dog you need and you don't have to wait till its grey in the face to tree a coon.
If you honest with yourself and you're open minded and willing to LOOK at things and don't get kennel blind or if yours are out performed you say its because the competition is babbling, cutting tracks or any other excuse you can come with. You will see that TIME changes things. People talk about track dogs. Then then see a coonhound that blisters a track and seem to have coons in the smaller trees because they had to climb. They push the coon to the tree, winding him as they drive the coon there and coming treed without having to smell all around and accurate as anything out there. This isn't because they have longer legs or tighter feet. This is track speed gained from running with their heads up and a nose that can keep them on the track.
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What I've seen in my almost fifty years of coonhunting is that every breed and every strain in those breeds have some real good dogs and a big bunch of sorry ones and all those real good ones just won't reproduce find a breed you like and hunt different strains and remember it's not just the male got to have good females also. I personally hunt walkers, the yadkin River strain and I'm very selective about what dogs from this strain l hunt, breed and keep. When you finally get one that does pretty good, go to a few hunts or call other people that hunt so you can compare your dog to others this lets you know what you have. It's not just about the dogs it's the fellowship and friends that mean the most.
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Couldn't have said it any better.
I appreciate the info.
Ursus plotts
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I have fooled with a lot of different pupsbin the last 10 -15 years, always get one or two a year and start them, usually end up selling them at some point because i find something i dont like. Right now i am hunting two twenty month old pups off kevin cables big money and a county thunder bred bitch. Started them by themselves, bitch had treed over 50 coons before her first birthday, go hunting and the most sensible around the house and kennel i have had in years. Nice tree dogs, no jumping, chewing. They have been a little junky at times but for the most part prefer coons and end up under coons when they do run something off. Male started a little later than female but I really like how he operates. Both move around well.
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