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Posted by TylerOSU on 12-05-2018 08:49 PM:

What's it worth?

What is it worth hunt a dog for someone for 30 nights? $300? $500? That's 30 nights in the woods even if you have to keep the dog 45 days just to make sure you get all the days in.

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Posted by Blacklabel on 12-05-2018 08:54 PM:

I think it depends on the guy holding the leash. I'm not paying for the dog to be hunted, I'm paying for a certain person to be hunting the dog.

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Posted by yadkintar on 12-05-2018 08:55 PM:

You will spend the $300 making the $500.

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Posted by Dave Richards on 12-05-2018 09:06 PM:

TylerOSU

As Blacklabel said, it depends on the one who is hunting the dog, If you are the one that's going to be hunting the dog for 30 nights, THEY will be getting a bargain at ANY price. Dave

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Posted by TylerOSU on 12-05-2018 09:10 PM:

Re: TylerOSU

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Originally posted by Dave Richards
As Blacklabel said, it depends on the one who is hunting the dog, If you are the one that's going to be hunting the dog for 30 nights, THEY will be getting a bargain at ANY price. Dave

Yeah I'm the one who has been asked to hunt the dog for 30 nights. I don't know about bargain but ill sure do my homework and put some boot leather on them. I also have the coons to be able to do this.

Posted by Donnie Stevens on 12-05-2018 09:41 PM:

It's worth a lot to hunt one right. If you only burn $10 a night in gas at $500/30 days your making less then $7 a night. It's a little better if the owner is paying all expenses but not much. I wouldn't think $800-$1000 would be out of the question. A good dog man can take a dog a long ways in 30 nights.

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Posted by TylerOSU on 12-05-2018 09:46 PM:

Labs

quote:
Originally posted by Donnie Stevens
It's worth a lot to hunt one right. If you only burn $10 a night in gas at $500/30 days your making less then $7 a night. It's a little better if the owner is paying all expenses but not much. I wouldn't think $800-$1000 would be out of the question. A good dog man can take a dog a long ways in 30 nights.

I have a buddy who lives 2 miles from me who is a top notch lab trainer. He charges $800 a month and has about 60 dogs... tell me how they can all get the amount of attention required?!

Posted by joey on 12-05-2018 10:09 PM:

Just add it up,

$10 in gas a night
3 hours a night at minimum wage is around $24

So $34x30 nights is $1020. There are a lot more expenses also that you will have. People have been ripping guys off for years paying them $300 for 30 nights. Just imagine how much money someone has in a 18 month old pup they sell for $2500 and think they are making money.

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Posted by Dave Richards on 12-05-2018 10:32 PM:

TylerOSU

You definitely won't make any money, but the pleasure factor will be priceless. Hunting is definitely not about the money, it's all about the pleasure of enjoying the outdoors and seeing a dog progress. Dave

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Posted by swamp1 on 12-05-2018 10:38 PM:

Re: Labs

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Originally posted by TylerOSU
I have a buddy who lives 2 miles from me who is a top notch lab trainer. He charges $800 a month and has about 60 dogs... tell me how they can all get the amount of attention required?!

Thats $48,000 a month, half million a year, training with a rubber duck. 😂 Maybe he's group training in the ☔. Lol.

As far as cost, it varies. Some do it for $200, depends on personal trainers reason for doing it. Some just love to hunt. Some do it for half ownership which don't work out
Then some do it for $300 a month for 5 mths and dog gets hunted 3 times in 5 mths,which is dishonest but they don't care. I've hunted some for $200 but could walk out back door and hunt them for 3 hrs a night plus we were friends and I was going hunting anyway.

If you're doing it to help financially theres a minimum fee standard for hunting like a job. I know some that charge $400 a mth to turn coons out of a cage. It varies depending on people.

Posted by TylerOSU on 12-05-2018 11:13 PM:

I’m in the mindset of I’m going anyways, it’s a friend of mine wanting it hunted so fuel and time doesn’t cost him anything as I’d go either way. Charging $350 and I bag of dogfood for 30 actual hunting nights. May take 45 days to get it but that’s what I told him

Posted by Donnie Stevens on 12-05-2018 11:30 PM:

$350 wouldn't cover the misery I'd go thru the first night I had to pull quills lol.

I've actually only ever come across a couple guys in 30 years I'd even let take one of my young dogs hunting without me let alone pay them to.

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Posted by swamp1 on 12-05-2018 11:31 PM:

TylerOSC

That sounds reasonable enough to me.

Posted by Dave Richards on 12-05-2018 11:48 PM:

TylerOSU

Your friend is getting a bargain, it's really not about the money, hunting is satisfaction in itself. You could not pay me enough to hunt these mountains, but I do it for free and for fun. Lol. Dave

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Posted by TylerOSU on 12-06-2018 12:06 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Donnie Stevens
$350 wouldn't cover the misery I'd go thru the first night I had to pull quills lol.

I've actually only ever come across a couple guys in 30 years I'd even let take one of my young dogs hunting without me let alone pay them to.

We don’t have porcupines... yet. And lord I hope they stay north! Skunk and armadillos are bad enough

Posted by yadkinriver on 12-06-2018 12:53 PM:

Hypothetically speaking, If you could give the same pup to five different people, in a years time you would have five different dogs. Just saying, if you hire someone, at any cost, better know them or have some close friend references. I've seen some very disappointing results from someone hired to hunt a dog.
TylerOSU you would be doing your friend a favor.

Posted by Todd K / UKC on 12-06-2018 01:27 PM:

Re: Labs

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Originally posted by TylerOSU
I have a buddy who lives 2 miles from me who is a top notch lab trainer. He charges $800 a month and has about 60 dogs... tell me how they can all get the amount of attention required?!

Training Labs is different. 20 of those 60 dogs are titled males and females that are semi-retired and breeding / hunting. 20 of those dogs are started dogs and your buddy has someone (experienced kennel help but not a pro) hired to do basic obedience and force fetch. 20 of those dogs are in actual training at the seasoned / finished level. I'll bet your buddy has another person hired that loads wingers, runs bumpers to piles, brings him dogs from the truck, etc. Your buddy spends 10 minutes per dog on the same test scenario. Break for lunch, set up another test scenario, then do it again in the afternoon. Hard work but it can be done. With help. Just pointing out the differences between retriever and hound training. Carry on...lol

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Posted by TylerOSU on 12-06-2018 02:45 PM:

Re: Re: Labs

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Originally posted by Todd K / UKC
Training Labs is different. 20 of those 60 dogs are titled males and females that are semi-retired and breeding / hunting. 20 of those dogs are started dogs and your buddy has someone (experienced kennel help but not a pro) hired to do basic obedience and force fetch. 20 of those dogs are in actual training at the seasoned / finished level. I'll bet your buddy has another person hired that loads wingers, runs bumpers to piles, brings him dogs from the truck, etc. Your buddy spends 10 minutes per dog on the same test scenario. Break for lunch, set up another test scenario, then do it again in the afternoon. Hard work but it can be done. With help. Just pointing out the differences between retriever and hound training. Carry on...lol

That's about right but if I charged $800 a month to hunt a hound people would puke! Lab guys and hound guys are cut from a different sheet I suppose!

Posted by 2ol2hunt on 12-06-2018 02:45 PM:

I wouldn't charge a good friend anything, it would just be wheather I thought I could help the dog or not.... but that's just me.

Posted by TylerOSU on 12-06-2018 02:50 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by 2ol2hunt
I wouldn't charge a good friend anything, it would just be wheather I thought I could help the dog or not.... but that's just me.

I have to charge something because in my opinion it is taking time away from MY hound walking to his hounds trees and such. Also have quite a bit in managing coons in certain areas I hunt so I put it towards those costs.

Posted by johnny reb on 12-06-2018 02:58 PM:

Coonhunters are some of the cheapest people when it comes to hunting or training a dog. Most will balkif asking someone to work a dog for then if your quote them $5-800 a month. When in reality if you break it down to nightlybor hourly $800 a month is a bargain. I can’t hunt my owns and hunt it right for that. I average 120 miles a night hunting one if I hunt one 5 nights a week I’ll have $80-100 just in fuel a week not counting time.

Posted by Dave Richards on 12-06-2018 03:42 PM:

Guys

You could never charge enough to actually make money, it comes down to enjoyment and pride in what one does. Myself, I would not hunt anyone else's dog, as I enjoy hunting my own dogs. Thank the Lord for friends like Tyler who will hunt you dog for a very modest price, as he says to help with his maintenance costs. Kudos to Tyler. Dave

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Posted by joey on 12-06-2018 09:19 PM:

If its for a real buddy than I wouldn't charge anything. If its for the guy down the street its over 1000 to break even. If its for the enjoyment of hunting Ill hunt my own.

Posted by yadkintar on 12-06-2018 09:28 PM:

The last several I tried to hunt for others I wanted to pay them double what they paid me to get them to take them back home !!

Tar

Posted by TreeDogKennels on 12-07-2018 02:11 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by yadkintar
The last several I tried to hunt for others I wanted to pay them double what they paid me to get them to take them back home !!

Tar

LOL I second that,
Most pups that people wants to pay ya to start are raised in a pin , never messed with other than fed and don't even know how to walk on green grass and takes 2 months to get them ready to hunt ,75% of them done crazy and all ways will be,!!

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