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Posted by high ridge on 09-02-2018 10:38 PM:

Who is going to have the first GrNt HOF?

I for one am kind of excited about this title.
I think it will be one of the more elite titles.
Which breed will have it first?
That be pretty good performance check tied to it.
I for one don’t hunt much after GrNt in the big hunts.
Up until this I thought it was a waste. Now, I kinda excited to hit some UKC hunts come first of year.

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Posted by Dave Richards on 09-02-2018 11:02 PM:

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Now, maybe a title will mean something again! Good luck to ALL. dave

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Posted by Surveyor on 09-02-2018 11:20 PM:

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Now, maybe a title will mean something again! Good luck to ALL. dave

I don't know, is taking a ball player who has played in the pro's for a couple years and letting him go back to play for his old high school to prove he can now really kick butt very sporting?

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Posted by sleepy head on 09-02-2018 11:24 PM:

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I don't know, is taking a ball player who has played in the pro's for a couple years and letting him go back to play for his old high school to prove he can now really kick butt very sporting?

If a dog cant play with pros should it be considered one?

Posted by Dave Richards on 09-02-2018 11:32 PM:

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Competing and winning that many casts would take a better than average dog. Especially, if it did so before old age.Lol. Dave

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Posted by oklared on 09-02-2018 11:50 PM:

IS THIS RETRO

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Posted by sleepy head on 09-02-2018 11:56 PM:

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Competing and winning that many casts would take a better than average dog. Especially, if it did so before old age.Lol. Dave

Dave I know there are dogs that will be able to do it, but most will fall apart. Going to a strong minded hound which in my opinion will favor the old tw

Posted by Dogwhisper on 09-02-2018 11:59 PM:

With 60 minute hunts it won't take long .

Posted by Dave Richards on 09-03-2018 12:01 AM:

Sleepy head

Agree with you, that's why it will be special.JS. Dave

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Posted by sleepy head on 09-03-2018 12:02 AM:

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Originally posted by Dogwhisper
With 60 minute hunts it won't take long .

How long would you guess? If its not retro

Posted by H DOG on 09-03-2018 12:08 AM:

A walker dog will be the first one 😆😆😆

Posted by JiM on 09-03-2018 12:52 AM:

Right up front, it has to be someone willing to blow $1000 dollars in entry fees and that's if his dog never loses. Then it has to be someone or some group of handlers willing to haul the dog around to 50 or more hunts. And probably the first thing in their head after accomplishing all this will be "why in the world did I do this?"
Forget about the dog burning out, how many handlers could seriously attempt this without ending up hating the sport.

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 09-03-2018 12:53 AM:

Mr Clean should be almost there now.

Posted by JiM on 09-03-2018 12:59 AM:

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Mr Clean should be almost there now.

Richard, good point. I guess I was looking at everyone starting Jan 1st with zero. If they would go back and count up all Sluggers cast wins back when he was winning all those Purina Races, he probably already earned that title. Postumunously of course.

Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 09-03-2018 02:16 AM:

I think its neat but few if any realisticly will achieve it. I have always entered Grands every chance I get. If this would have been passed a few years ago Main Stret Blue and Main Street Jam would be half way over or more. Good luck to whoever can achieve it. It will be a title well earned.

I think most dogs would be ruined or dang near it with this many hunts. But a special dog could pull this off.

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Posted by high ridge on 09-03-2018 04:06 AM:

I have one dog with 147 CW and one with 68 CW.
Me and the dogs aren’t worn out.
The money issue could be an issue
But, the bragging rights is worth it all.

Isn’t that why we go to these hunts anyway? To crow a little.

It doesn’t take a group of guys. I have no group.
It just takes a guy that likes to go to hunts.

It take a lot of nights. It takes multiple years to achieve. But nothing worth having is easy to achieve.

I for one plan on having me a GrNt HOF

As a small boy I dreamed of having a ntch or grnt and be like the legends that we looked up too

This is my chance to have one of the first and set around the club when I old and brag about it to the young ones hoping that in their life they can achieve a first in their career.

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Posted by high ridge on 09-03-2018 04:08 AM:

We will just be winning cast not having to be first place.

There lot dogs great at cast wins but not at big scores. That’s why they prefer elimination style hunts.

This draws that group in.

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Posted by ov_blues on 09-03-2018 04:42 AM:

If a dog is paid up in performance that should offset some or maybe all of the cost to win the 50 casts.

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Posted by EAST TN ENGLISH on 09-03-2018 04:50 AM:

50 cast wins is a bunch but very doable. Go run a state or breed race in pkc and see how many you get in just one year. I think double headers will be what a lot of clubs will start having. If so might not take as long as one might think

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Posted by ethan howard on 09-03-2018 05:13 AM:

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Posted by joey on 09-03-2018 05:38 AM:

I have owned 2 with over 50 cast wins. Got one in the pen now. Not in UKC but I couldn't do it in them before. I might give it a try. Jim if money is the thing then add up your feed bill. That might have you asking why you did it too.

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Posted by Surveyor on 09-03-2018 05:46 AM:

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Originally posted by sleepy head
If a dog cant play with pros should it be considered one?

Kind of my point actually, once graduated to the pro's now in a different league and should compete against others who have also graduated to that league, not go backwards and repeat against others that haven't graduated yet. I'm all for the Gr Nt 1, 2-9 whatever, but I think a dog should have to compete against other Gr Nt Ch's to achieve it, not go back and compete against Nt Ch's all over again.

Posted by JiM on 09-03-2018 10:50 AM:

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Originally posted by joey
I have owned 2 with over 50 cast wins. Got one in the pen now. Not in UKC but I couldn't do it in them before. I might give it a try. Jim if money is the thing then add up your feed bill. That might have you asking why you did it too.

The feed bill isn't comparable to entry fees since no dog ever died because it didn't get entered enough but they will certainly die if they don't get fed. In others words, one is required, one isn't.
Also, all those PKC wins gave your entry back plus probably some gas money, so again, not comparable.
But obviously, there are more 50 cast winners out there than I ever imagined. Should be a good race to see who can get there first.

Posted by berger on 09-03-2018 12:02 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by JiM
Right up front, it has to be someone willing to blow $1000 dollars in entry fees and that's if his dog never loses. Then it has to be someone or some group of handlers willing to haul the dog around to 50 or more hunts. And probably the first thing in their head after accomplishing all this will be "why in the world did I do this?"
Forget about the dog burning out, how many handlers could seriously attempt this without ending up hating the sport.

Jim I disagree about willing to blow a $1,000. with the new format of clubs being able to have Slam events an SS now. If the dog is a consistent winner you wouldn't be blowing anything. Except maybe the tires on your truck but if they aren't running for the HOF title they will be running another one for the GR NT Title.

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Posted by Bruce m. Conkey on 09-03-2018 12:14 PM:

I briefly read the new format and after spending the past few day at Autumn Oaks and 34 hours in a truck. I haven't had time to look deep into what the changes will bring. One thing after reading these post I do see and would like someone to explain is the Performance Points. I see we are talking about the new formats increasing attendance and I guess that means more performance points given out. However I don't see any mention of how they are increasing the INPUT into the performance program. If you just take more out without putting more in. The value of each POINT will be less. So you can double the points earned and you end up with the same money you got the year before for half the work.

Am I missing something there?

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