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Posted by Nathan Harder on 07-11-2018 06:03 AM:

In your opinion, and why?

When do you think is the best time to get a pup? In the terms of being able to train him.
I got a pup on January with the thought process that once I and him running drags and a few roll cages that kits would hit the ground and there would be plenty of quarry. I know think that there may just be too much scent around confusing the dog. What is your thoughts/opinions/experience/preference and why?

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Posted by Chuck Allen on 07-11-2018 08:43 PM:

I prefer JAN -APR pups but it does not always work out that way. JMHO and S/FI

The why is I can mess with them all year squirrel hunt them a little bit maybe get them in on a few hot tracks cornfield races etc. teach them basic obedience and some controlled trash breaking if required etc. and by season they should be old enough and mature enough to hunt the hair off them and the last month of season hunting them by themselves. again jmho

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Posted by pamjohnson on 07-13-2018 02:33 PM:

i feel the best time to get a pup is when you can put some time into him. doesn't matter what time of the year. the pup may be ready to get started at 6 months old or it may be a year so it can be hard to guess what would be the best time other than whenever ya put the time into them. i always prefer to have 2 young dogs at a time to keep me busy but 1 may be enough at a time, sometimes.


Posted by Richard Lambert on 07-13-2018 03:09 PM:

You never know at what age any pup is going to be mature enough to start. Some you can start fooling with at 6 months and some are 11-12 mos before they are mature enough. So the best time to get a pup is when you find the right bred one that you are looking for. Then tailor your training to fit that pup. Don't try to make a pup fit your training timing or methods. Time your training to fit the pup.


Posted by pamjohnson on 07-13-2018 05:41 PM:

richard said it better than me but that's what i was trying to say


Posted by Nathan Harder on 07-13-2018 05:42 PM:

So a male pup, 8 months old, not wanting to leave my side is just a waiting game. Trying all I can to get him to go. I read about some dogs running on their own at 1 year old. Just feel mine is behind the curve. What do you guys with more experience feel is a "normal" age for pups to start hunting?

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Posted by Undergrace316 on 07-13-2018 06:00 PM:

What's a good way to determine when your pup is mature enough. I'm in the process of training my very first pups. 2 of em. I want to avoid ruining them if I can so I'll take all the advice I can get.


Posted by Ghost14 on 07-13-2018 10:43 PM:

Like everyone stated, there is no set time. Some words of wisdom is that it’s going to be difficult for you to train 2 pups. It being your first attempt, you might want to think about choosing one to move forward with and getting rid of one of them. I’m not saying that you can’t achieve success with 2 but it’s not an easy road with 1 pup much less 2 at the same time. For them to be doing it on their own at a year old means countless hours of hunting them alone and that’s a lot of hard hunting if you’ve got 2.

Another thing to remember is take everything you hear and especially read with a grain of salt. I have been discouraged with a pups progress before when I heard of all the great and wonderful things it’s littermate’s were already doing. After going and hunting with the other littermates I found that they were no further along and some were even behind my own pup. But, that is not how their owners portray them.

Finally, don’t be easily discouraged. It’s a long hard road to the finished product and you will have something you can be proud of. Not because it’s made the best dog in the world(maybe yours will be), but proud that you stuck to it and all the blood, sweat, and tears will have payed off in a finished product you can enjoy for whatever it has become! Good luck and have fun

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Posted by Paul Frederick on 07-14-2018 12:21 AM:

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Originally posted by Squatch308
So a male pup, 8 months old, not wanting to leave my side is just a waiting game.


This is what a well-known dog trainer told me he does so feel free to take with a grain of salt.

On their 6 month birthday he will take them with the old dog. If they hang around at the truck or with him, he puts them back in the pen for a month. He does this every month until they go with the old dog. Seems a bit extreme to some but if you keep taking it and taking it and the pup stays with you you are basically training the pup to be by your side. I've seen lots of young dogs who were packed to the woods too young who didn't want to do anything except follow their master around.

Forget about what you hear about other guy's dogs and the age they are running a treeing coon or even how many they are treeing a night. The truth is most of them are exaggerating some and a good number are flat out lying. I know guys that I read on Facebook every morning about treeing 5-10 coon a night and I think "man their dog is doing way better than mine" and then I draw them and am disappointed. For whatever reason they like being patted on the back so they make up stuff. Do what you can and tailor your approach to the dog like Richard said.

The guy I mentioned at the beginning of my post rarely has a young dog "doing it all" at a year old. But he's won the UKC World Hunt, placed in the single digits several times, and has some of the most consistent big winning dogs for the last 40 years. I think we get to hung up on a young dog doing everything fast and neglect to make sure they are doing it right.

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Posted by pamjohnson on 07-14-2018 02:42 AM:

Just me but I wouldn't hunt 2 pups together. It's double trouble.


Posted by Chuck Allen on 07-14-2018 04:39 AM:

I would not ever mess with a pup on a cage coon more than once or twice and that would be it.

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