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Posted by Richard Lambert on 06-17-2018 04:50 PM:

UKC Panel

I just read in the rulebook that when any handler has a question and doesnt like the MOH's ruling or thinks that he is wrong, the handler can ask for a panel to hear their question. I sure didn't know this. I always thought that the MOH had the final say. It is amazing what you can learn by carefully reading the rulebook several times and not just skimming through it.


Posted by HERSHSHUNTIN on 06-17-2018 06:00 PM:

Re: UKC Panel

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
I just read in the rulebook that when any handler has a question and doesnt like the MOH's ruling or thinks that he is wrong, the handler can ask for a panel to hear their question. I sure didn't know this. I always thought that the MOH had the final say. It is amazing what you can learn by carefully reading the rulebook several times and not just skimming through it.


we know now who is & who is not reading the back of the scorecard. Its on the back--lol

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Posted by ov_blues on 06-17-2018 06:22 PM:

I've had to get a MOH's ruling overturned before. Panel overruled him and UKC upheld the panel's ruling. If you start the proper paperwork at the club level then UKC will have the final say. If it's a rules interpretation and they get it wrong at the club level, MOH and/or panel, it can still be corrected by UKC.

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Posted by joey on 06-18-2018 12:20 AM:

Re: UKC Panel

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
I just read in the rulebook that when any handler has a question and doesnt like the MOH's ruling or thinks that he is wrong, the handler can ask for a panel to hear their question. I sure didn't know this. I always thought that the MOH had the final say. It is amazing what you can learn by carefully reading the rulebook several times and not just skimming through it.


Now you know the reason for the advisor. If the MOH gets it wrong you can take it all the way to UKC and you will know what the ruling will be. Based on what the advisor says.

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Posted by Dave Richards on 06-18-2018 01:38 AM:

Michael Rosemond

Excellent post. Dave

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Posted by Corey Gruver on 06-18-2018 01:40 AM:

Re: UKC Panel

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
I just read in the rulebook that when any handler has a question and doesnt like the MOH's ruling or thinks that he is wrong, the handler can ask for a panel to hear their question. I sure didn't know this. I always thought that the MOH had the final say. It is amazing what you can learn by carefully reading the rulebook several times and not just skimming through it.


I think the King should get a Jury instead of a Panel... might be more fitting

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 06-18-2018 02:24 AM:

Oh my goodness, "a panel of your peers". The only problem is that as you can see from this message forum your "peers" don't know the rules either.


Posted by Richard Lambert on 06-18-2018 02:40 AM:

So on the other post people are talking about "the way that it has always been done". Do y'all think that a panel will go by the the rulebook or "the way that it has always been done".


Posted by thomasg on 06-18-2018 03:55 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
So on the other post people are talking about "the way that it has always been done". Do y'all think that a panel will go by the the rulebook or "the way that it has always been done".
the way it has always been done .lol


Posted by Robert Johnson on 06-18-2018 12:16 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Oh my goodness, "a panel of your peers". The only problem is that as you can see from this message forum your "peers" don't know the rules either.


That's a mouthful of truth Richard. Hardly ever does a panel get it right by the rules. I guess most of the cooks and knee slappers that just sit around the club house don't read the rules enough to care, but when asked to sit on a panel they are the world's foremost experts on the subject. Oh the MOH's aren't always right, but it is so much easier to show one person the rule where they are wrong than to get three to even look.

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 06-18-2018 03:18 PM:

Doesn't every clubhouse have a rulebook and an advisor that a panel can use to look up and read the rule involved and UKC's official interpretation? Shouldn't UKC require this? Shouldn't they require that every MOH or HD have an Advisor on his person when he is officiating? Maybe they should require every MOH to have and read the Advisor before they give them a license. How are they going to officiate at a hunt if they don't know UKC's official interpretation of the rules?


Posted by chaz2012 on 06-18-2018 03:29 PM:

So you want a panel , Then I just scratch them for one reason or another problem solved, If they dont like that we fight. Im 26-0 so they know better.

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Posted by Dave Richards on 06-19-2018 02:51 AM:

Chaz2012

Hope that you were kidding, if not the hunts are no place for you to be at. I would hate to see something bad happen to you, 26-0 means nothing to a man that means business. Dave

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Posted by chaz2012 on 06-19-2018 01:11 PM:

Re: Chaz2012

quote:
Originally posted by Dave Richards
Hope that you were kidding, if not the hunts are no place for you to be at. I would hate to see something bad happen to you, 26-0 means nothing to a man that means business. Dave
Your scratched

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Posted by Dave Richards on 06-19-2018 06:26 PM:

Chaz2012

Scratched? Man, I thought that I had won the cast! Lol. Dave

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Posted by chaz2012 on 06-20-2018 01:55 PM:

Re: Chaz2012

quote:
Originally posted by Dave Richards
Scratched? Man, I thought that I had won the cast! Lol. Dave
So do you wana fight ROFLMAO

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Posted by Dave Richards on 06-20-2018 05:07 PM:

Chaz2012

No fighting, you already scratched me, that's bad enough! I definitely don't want to get barred. Lol. Dave

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Posted by nitehunter2004 on 06-20-2018 07:09 PM:

Re: Chaz2012

quote:
Originally posted by Dave Richards
No fighting, you already scratched me, that's bad enough! I definitely don't want to get barred. Lol. Dave

Dave I believe you can take him!


Posted by yadkintar on 06-20-2018 09:08 PM:

He might know moo goo guy pan or chop suey !! Or classily trained by bwuce wee !!



Ahhhhhh honerable tarason


Posted by Dave Richards on 06-21-2018 12:03 AM:

Tim/Tar

Probably can, but after my posts on fighting, it would not look to good for me! I don't think there is any place for fighting at any hunt, to great of a chance on something bad happening. Gone are the days when men just settled their differences and were friends afterwards, some don't want to play fair and some don't want to play at all. Don't want to fight, but definitely won't run. Dave

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Posted by yadkintar on 06-21-2018 12:26 AM:

I don't even like to hear talk of it I went to the dr yesterday got bone spurs in my neck pushing on the nerves couldn't even raise my right arm they gave me some shots I can move it today. But I can remember the days when I got beaten so bad I couldn't breath for two weeks. I would really rather talk about what we have accomplished with our dogs myself.





Tar


Posted by nitehunter2004 on 06-21-2018 12:42 AM:

I think the guy just having a little fun, if not I wish him All the best in his quest because Someone Will But a Pop Knot on his head LOL.

Mr Tim.


Posted by Dave Richards on 06-21-2018 02:18 AM:

Tim

I believe he's just having fun, seems like a pretty nice guy. Lol. Then again, we were all young and foolish back in our youth. Like Tar said, I would much rather talk about hunting or a good dog, nothing good every comes out of being a badazz. Dave

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Posted by chaz2012 on 06-21-2018 03:10 AM:

Re: Re: Chaz2012

quote:
Originally posted by nitehunter2004
Dave I believe you can take him!
Oh no dont ag him on he may call my bluff then what am I gona do

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Posted by nitehunter2004 on 06-21-2018 11:24 AM:

Re: Re: Re: Chaz2012

quote:
Originally posted by chaz2012
Oh no dont ag him on he may call my bluff then what am I gona do

You do like the rest of us old guys Don’t Answer LMBO.

Mr Tim.


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