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Posted by JPRITCHARD on 05-29-2017 12:13 AM:

Issues With Reeds In Coon Squallers These Days!

Is anyone having issues with Coon squallers this day in time with the reeds messing up and tearing apart all the time ?? It sucks when you pay $20,$30,$40 for a coon squaller and the reeds don't last a month. I'm not going to list on here any brands and try to get anything started but there two main company's that make a great squaller that's easy to use and sounds great but the reeds are horrible and not holding up. First I thought it was just me but the more I talk to guys at the hunts this seems to be a on going thing. Just wanted some feedback if anyone is dealing with this issue.


Posted by Richard Lambert on 05-29-2017 01:17 PM:

Where do the reeds come from? Do they make their own or do they all just buy them from the same place? What is the difference between squallers? Is it the reeds or just the tubes or the way the reeds are put in the tubes?


Posted by Josh Michaelis on 05-29-2017 07:25 PM:

All reeds are made by the same company, but there are literally thousands of reed combinations we can use. Personally I use a very light set of reeds in the Pinnacle in order to get the sound that I want, and that works, but they don't last long. If we used a reed set that was more durable, they simply do not sound as good, and are much more difficult to blow, and like all of them, will still eventually go out. We currently have our own reed system developed but can not use it until the patent goes through. Until that point we are experimenting with a coating that will delay fraying and breakage, and it is being tested now.

Most of the call makers making calls lately are doing it very simply. Find a chunk of something pretty, drill a hole in it, turn it, glue reeds in it. I sell one similar to the competitors for only $20. But the reeds are not changeable, it is like the rest, a throw away call. Simple to make, cheap, and quick.

The Pinnacle, like the Chatterbox before it, is a two piece call with a changeable reed system, so when your reeds do quit, and they will, for only $5 you can put a new set in them yourself in about 30 seconds. None of the others that I am aware of other than banshee, who has an ingenious reed change system, have changeable reeds.

It sucks, and I don't like it anymore than you guys do, but reed failure on easy blowing, good sounding calls, is going to be more frequent than other calls, no matter who makes them.

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Posted by Rip on 05-29-2017 07:37 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Josh Michaelis
All reeds are made by the same company, but there are literally thousands of reed combinations we can use. Personally I use a very light set of reeds in the Pinnacle in order to get the sound that I want, and that works, but they don't last long. If we used a reed set that was more durable, they simply do not sound as good, and are much more difficult to blow, and like all of them, will still eventually go out. We currently have our own reed system developed but can not use it until the patent goes through. Until that point we are experimenting with a coating that will delay fraying and breakage, and it is being tested now.

Most of the call makers making calls lately are doing it very simply. Find a chunk of something pretty, drill a hole in it, turn it, glue reeds in it. I sell one similar to the competitors for only $20. But the reeds are not changeable, it is like the rest, a throw away call. Simple to make, cheap, and quick.

The Pinnacle, like the Chatterbox before it, is a two piece call with a changeable reed system, so when your reeds do quit, and they will, for only $5 you can put a new set in them yourself in about 30 seconds. None of the others that I am aware of other than banshee, who has an ingenious reed change system, have changeable reeds.

It sucks, and I don't like it anymore than you guys do, but reed failure on easy blowing, good sounding calls, is going to be more frequent than other calls, no matter who makes them.



Good information to have. Thanks.

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 05-29-2017 10:21 PM:

What is the difference in the Pinnacle and the Chatterbox. I was going to get a Chatterbox because I saw one do wonders in a hunt one night. But should I get a Pinnacle instead?


Posted by Josh Michaelis on 05-29-2017 11:02 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
What is the difference in the Pinnacle and the Chatterbox. I was going to get a Chatterbox because I saw one do wonders in a hunt one night. But should I get a Pinnacle instead?



The Pinnacle is a little easier to blow, and it goes together with an O-ring, eliminating any issues with the lanyard losing half of your call, thus eliminating the need for a double lanyard.

Both are great calls I know longer make or sell the Chatterbox though. I sold the call to Jeremiah at Ridgeline Supply.

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Posted by Nick Jennings on 05-29-2017 11:18 PM:

Put a new reed pack in my chatterbox 2 last night when I was getting ready.

Had one doing the cat walk down the tree. Climbed down from about 40ft and hit the ground running in about two minutes of squalling. First time I've ever squalled one all the way down to the ground

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Posted by RatDog on 05-29-2017 11:53 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Josh Michaelis
All reeds are made by the same company, but there are literally thousands of reed combinations we can use. Personally I use a very light set of reeds in the Pinnacle in order to get the sound that I want, and that works, but they don't last long. If we used a reed set that was more durable, they simply do not sound as good, and are much more difficult to blow, and like all of them, will still eventually go out. We currently have our own reed system developed but can not use it until the patent goes through. Until that point we are experimenting with a coating that will delay fraying and breakage, and it is being tested now.

Most of the call makers making calls lately are doing it very simply. Find a chunk of something pretty, drill a hole in it, turn it, glue reeds in it. I sell one similar to the competitors for only $20. But the reeds are not changeable, it is like the rest, a throw away call. Simple to make, cheap, and quick.

The Pinnacle, like the Chatterbox before it, is a two piece call with a changeable reed system, so when your reeds do quit, and they will, for only $5 you can put a new set in them yourself in about 30 seconds. None of the others that I am aware of other than banshee, who has an ingenious reed change system, have changeable reeds.

It sucks, and I don't like it anymore than you guys do, but reed failure on easy blowing, good sounding calls, is going to be more frequent than other calls, no matter who makes them.



Maybe ya oughta start sendin a spare set of reeds with the squaller? Anyway I used my Pinnacle for the first time the other night and I like it. Wasn't hard to blow at all and coon was doing some dancing.

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Posted by Josh Michaelis on 05-30-2017 03:10 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by RatDog
Maybe ya oughta start sendin a spare set of reeds with the squaller? Anyway I used my Pinnacle for the first time the other night and I like it. Wasn't hard to blow at all and coon was doing some dancing.


We used too, but we were going to have to increase the cost of the call to keep doing so. This gives the buyer the option. I always suggest to people to get extras when they order to save shipping cost.

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Posted by ashleybroke on 05-30-2017 08:59 AM:

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 05-30-2017 02:53 PM:

Will anyone have them for sale at Redbone Days in Oklahoma this weekend?


Posted by wjoey on 05-30-2017 11:01 PM:

quote:
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Will anyone have them for sale at Redbone Days in Oklahoma this weekend?
NO NEED FOR THEM THERE

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Posted by yadkintar on 05-30-2017 11:08 PM:

I am glad sombody said somthing about Richard will be in Oklahoma this weekend I might have to be there under cover a secret play by play we might have to talk about why the dog bit grandpa lol.


Posted by JPRITCHARD on 05-31-2017 03:38 AM:

Thanks for the information!!! Just seems crazy to have to replace the reeds all the time . But I understand what your saying.
Thanks


quote:
Originally posted by Josh Michaelis
All reeds are made by the same company, but there are literally thousands of reed combinations we can use. Personally I use a very light set of reeds in the Pinnacle in order to get the sound that I want, and that works, but they don't last long. If we used a reed set that was more durable, they simply do not sound as good, and are much more difficult to blow, and like all of them, will still eventually go out. We currently have our own reed system developed but can not use it until the patent goes through. Until that point we are experimenting with a coating that will delay fraying and breakage, and it is being tested now.

Most of the call makers making calls lately are doing it very simply. Find a chunk of something pretty, drill a hole in it, turn it, glue reeds in it. I sell one similar to the competitors for only $20. But the reeds are not changeable, it is like the rest, a throw away call. Simple to make, cheap, and quick.

The Pinnacle, like the Chatterbox before it, is a two piece call with a changeable reed system, so when your reeds do quit, and they will, for only $5 you can put a new set in them yourself in about 30 seconds. None of the others that I am aware of other than banshee, who has an ingenious reed change system, have changeable reeds.

It sucks, and I don't like it anymore than you guys do, but reed failure on easy blowing, good sounding calls, is going to be more frequent than other calls, no matter who makes them.


Posted by Coondog123 on 05-31-2017 02:25 PM:

my timothy ball squall works well when i remember to spit my snuff out before i start blowing on it.


Posted by RatDog on 05-31-2017 09:04 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Coondog123
my timothy ball squall works well when i remember to spit my snuff out before i start blowing on it.


Haha...My buddy has one and it sounds good to

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