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Posted by Kenneth Tavares on 04-04-2017 08:57 PM:

Back in time

If you could go back in time and breed to a B&T stud(that you didn't use) which would it be?

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Posted by Doug A on 04-05-2017 12:47 AM:

I always regretted not breeding to Jeff Nelsons original Northern Buck. I tried to make up for it by breeding to Buck II though.

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Posted by Charles Pullen on 04-05-2017 06:24 AM:

During my time hunting black dogs I would say OX

Before the black dogs was the Walkers but if I could back then it would be a black dog it would be Ozark Screaming Bo .

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Posted by Larry B. on 04-05-2017 03:23 PM:

That would be hard for me to choose just one. My choices would be McDonald's Recharge, Davis's Midnight Screaming Eagle, Tennessee Big Wheel, Schenker's Black Smokey, Voyles black Jack, Hulme's ghost and the list could go on and on.

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Posted by Larry B. on 04-05-2017 03:25 PM:

woops you said didn't use, so that would rule out Schenker's Blck Smokey. I had a male directly out of him.

Posted by rweller on 04-05-2017 06:12 PM:

To be honest I never really paid much attention on what dogs were reproducing dogs and breeding that much. I just wanted a top notch coondog. One I could win in the hunts with and tree coons with every night.
I guess thinking about it, Bailies Ozark Buckaroo would have to be on that list. Probably a few more but would have to think about it.

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Posted by Orville White J on 04-05-2017 10:54 PM:

smith black hobe and Ozark screaming BO.

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Posted by Rip on 04-06-2017 12:18 AM:

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smith black hobe and Ozark screaming BO.

I second that, and Splittin Ax as well.

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Posted by blackdawg on 04-06-2017 02:38 AM:

Obviously Combs & Smiths Smokey for me. A few others are Hi Dollar Dancer, Ragin Ranger, Lone Hill Brutus, Kansas Jr, Buck II, Coon Cravin Raven, Gentleman Jim, Hoss II, Piney Creek Cash.

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Posted by ethan howard on 04-06-2017 07:04 PM:

I would go back and try to get some Black Mac, Gentleman Jim, and Tenn Rambler blood back up on these dogs pedigrees today

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Posted by L.Richard on 04-07-2017 10:48 AM:

Why?

I would think....the real question should be,if you could go back in time...who would you breed to,and why?

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Posted by Mike Hilty on 04-08-2017 06:10 PM:

Eads Big Frank

Lee Eads /Big Frank male, had the cold nose I wanted, he was old , hot summer day, when I bred to him, my female did not take.Always wondered what if.....Like a do over.

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Posted by skidiver on 04-09-2017 02:45 AM:

Eads Bruiser. Hunted with several dogs out of him. Cold nose with big bawl mouths on track. Houndy looking as well. I guess going back in the day depends how old you are. Tenn Rambler would have been another I'd like to have bred to..... Owned dogs out of Tenn Wheeler, Lawson's Big Hoss, Ozark Screamin Bo, C&S Smokey, Myers Mighty Stump and Davis' Blk Jack and others.

Posted by James Tolliver on 04-12-2017 03:27 PM:

None other than " Sowder's Go Jo"!

Legend has it Dale Sowder told it; When he first purchased Go Jo that he was the fastest dog on four feet. Dale said, If Go Jo was running a deer? Nothing could catch him and if he was running a coon? Nothing could beat him to the tree!
That being said, we all know those Souped up Speed Demons with superb speed usually consistently over runs tracks and goofs up a pack of dogs on fast game UNLESS? The dog has a superb Nose that will allow him to chase game with his head up and the hammer down! Along with Intelligence. IMO.

As far as i'm concerned Go Jo's breeding is what made Dale Sowders a household name. Dale Sowders Go Jo helped in the lineage of Comb's & Smith's Smokey. Go Jo is found doubled up in Piney Creek Cash blood, Cash fortunately won the 1984 PCA/ PKC World Championship Nite hunt.

All 3 dogs mentioned are in the bloodlines I own today.
When I make a cross I zero in on the Speed gene!

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Posted by shawnstovall on 04-12-2017 10:12 PM:

my choices would be hobo hoss, black bart, billy's old smokey dog, buckaroo, gentleman jim

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Posted by berger on 04-16-2017 01:36 PM:

If I am going back in time it wouldn't be to breed to a dog but instead it would be to go back to Jeff Nelson and Mark Reed an talk them into letting me buy stud service and collecting their studs, Nelson's Northern Buck and Black Land Bear. Reproducing ability that comes along about once every 20 to 25yrs. we had them both in a 10yr. period so we could be in a 40 to 50yr. drought.

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Posted by STROKIN on 04-16-2017 01:54 PM:

Brock's Hobo

Posted by L.Richard on 04-16-2017 04:39 PM:

Brock's Hobo

Just wondering why you mentioned Hobo?

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Posted by Billy George on 04-16-2017 05:36 PM:

quote:
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Nelson's Northern Buck and Black Land Bear.
Reproducing ability that comes along about once every 20 to 25yrs. we had them both in a 10yr. period so we could be in a 40 to 50yr. drought.

Omer are throwing the breed under the bus for the next 50 years???

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Posted by berger on 04-16-2017 06:20 PM:

quote:
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Omer are throwing the breed under the bus for the next 50 years???

Not at all Billy.

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Posted by Gene Houston on 04-16-2017 07:24 PM:

Ozark Screaming Bo

Posted by Billy George on 04-16-2017 07:35 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by berger
Not at all Billy.

Didn't think so, but had to ask anyway.

Posted by berger on 04-16-2017 09:28 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Billy George
Didn't think so, but had to ask anyway.

Billy if I had semen stored on these 2 I would be set for a long time in coonhounds. They had the reproducing IT factor you can breed to any male you want now on what you prefer or trying to get Mouth, drive, competiveness, tracking, tree, winners your just not gonna find it in one load or in the percentages.

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Posted by STROKIN on 04-16-2017 10:14 PM:

Re: Brock's Hobo

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Originally posted by L.Richard
Just wondering why you mentioned Hobo?

He threw a lot of winners. Only black dog EVER to win super stakes sire of the year. I only hunted with a couple off him, one was yours Leon, and I really liked what I saw. That line of dogs, old rambler strain, had good speed and hunt without losing any treeing.

Posted by L.Richard on 04-17-2017 10:43 AM:

Hobo

I think you are on to something,and I agree.A lot of what you witnessed, came from the mothers side as well.

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