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Posted by Cory Estes on 03-08-2017 02:48 PM:

Coon Movement

No professional by any means here, Just curiosity here really, been having a usual coon treeing hound pulling up short more than i can stand. Hes 3.5 years old. My question is how is the coon movement this time of year in your area. Rut should be well over i would think. i've heard the sows could be laid up with kittens and not moving? Seems most coon seen are boar coon? Seems all the dogs I see on social media and what not are blowing though the country to tree a coon (boars). Reckon they are moving at different times than when im hunting. Im not a pro handler as i work 42+ hours a week and still try to hunt when i can. I usually try to hunt at least 2 nights a week and on the weekends. Try to cut loose around dark and make a couple trees. Dog is real timid so I try to be cautious when correcting him on a blank. I'm not the kind of guy to beat their brains out but understand they need to be corrected. Just looking for some wisdom from experience. i'm still somewhat of a intermediate when it comes to training, breaking dogs, coon movement, etc. Thanks guys

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Posted by va.b&t on 03-08-2017 03:02 PM:

I had cameras on feeders for a few years and with thousands of pics taken on three different feeders I know one thing! its not easy to pattern when a coon will move.

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Posted by Cory Estes on 03-08-2017 03:11 PM:

Thanks for the reply. Not really looking to pattern them just curious to see if the sows are layed up. Are guys seeing a normal amount of coon? Treeing more boars than sows? Am i hunting the wrong times for this time of year?

Posted by Dogwhisper on 03-08-2017 03:35 PM:

I hunted early last nite ... Started @ 11pm....1st. bump dogs went 2.6 miles treed w/coon....Could not tell if it was m/f.
Now I consider this unusual long ....But then again 11pm start is early for me.. went on to tree another @ 336 yds (short order coon.)

Posted by Cory Estes on 03-08-2017 03:40 PM:

Yikes. 2.6 miles. The coon pretty thin where you are?

Posted by Dogwhisper on 03-08-2017 03:52 PM:

No.....SW. MICHIGAN we got coons. . But tracking has been challenging to say the least.

Posted by Cory Estes on 03-08-2017 03:53 PM:

Sounds like here in Southeatern IN. We have coon, just seems it has been rough.

Posted by yrphunter on 03-08-2017 04:06 PM:

Ruts still in here, been treeing several long tracks with multiple coons up at the tree. Been turning loose around about 9pm and hunting til about 12-1 am

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Posted by Cory Estes on 03-08-2017 04:08 PM:

Im thinkin it wont be long and kittens will start being born and getting down over the next couple months. Hoping my pup turns on real strong

Posted by Porter on 03-08-2017 04:11 PM:

We've had several long tracks down here had one go three miles the other night and swim across the river

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Posted by Cory Estes on 03-08-2017 05:05 PM:

Sounds like it is a bit tough everywhere this time of year.

Posted by Jgarrett on 03-08-2017 06:15 PM:

I guided cast both Friday and Saturday night. Treed 5 singles both night in 2 hrs. That is unusually good for around here.

Posted by shadinc on 03-08-2017 06:38 PM:

Your dog pulling up short has absolutely nothing to do with coon movement.

Posted by Cory Estes on 03-08-2017 06:49 PM:

well hes treeing there for a reason, what would your suggestion on why be?

Posted by shadinc on 03-08-2017 06:51 PM:

He's bred with "too much tree" and not enough locating ability.

Posted by Cory Estes on 03-08-2017 07:00 PM:

well hes never had much trouble treeing coon before. so how can you explain that?

Posted by shadinc on 03-08-2017 07:04 PM:

It's merely a bad habit getting worse.

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Posted by Dan Dogs on 03-08-2017 07:06 PM:

coyote dogs have been catching coon at 11 oclock in the morning.

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Posted by critter on 03-08-2017 07:29 PM:

on target

May not answer your question but last nite for the 2nd time i treed coon so small looked like kitten coon would look in june or july in my area.Cant figure if real late or real early litter.Any ideas?

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Posted by POTOMAC on 03-08-2017 08:37 PM:

90% of your kittens won't be out and about until June july time frame so I don't think its sow with kittens at least not born kittens yet! And I agree with the to much tree and that the case in most of the dogs today ! There are a lot of dogs that can tree coon and look good doing it when coon are down and moving but not many that can go any night of the week and anytime of the. Night and consistantly come up with coon ! Are you hunting around any water ?which makes track smell better ? IS the dog beating and banging like old tracks and then coming treed and just empty are is the dog blistering smokin a track 3-500 yards and coming treee like its hot and not having the coon ? We don't have any coon and what few we did have I have found 5 dead in the last 3 weeks and can only figure distemper being it has t gotten cold enough this winter to kill off a lot of disease ? Not sure. But finding live coons has been a chore! The last couple I saw were heading out to work at 4:45 am so should say they are moving in the afternoon during daylight hours and early morning before daylight but that can all chage tommorow ! I figured they had my phone tapped and new every move I was making Lol but also do you hunt the same spots As coon will pattern you pretty quick also everything happens for a reason you just need to figure it out or something that makes sense

Posted by lucas foster on 03-08-2017 09:46 PM:

Corey

I'm north of u just a bit. Tracking conditions are tough this time of year. Especially with the back n forth freezing then then thawing mixed with things starting to decay can make for rough going. Correct him on the slick n send him on. If he comes up slick from there now u have real problem. Just b patient n enjoy the hunt no matter how good or bad. Remember its supposed to b fun.

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Posted by Joe Mueller on 03-09-2017 06:21 AM:

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Originally posted by Cory Estes
well hes never had much trouble treeing coon before. so how can you explain that?

dont believe everything u hear on hear lol. Never had a world champ but i just send them on with a rougher voice and hopefully he starts finishing tracks. But its the roughest time of year for coon movement. Yes coons are smarter than dogs and they will tap more trees than ever this time of year. Boars smell stronger this time of year and sows hardly smell at all. Its hard to beat mother nature as a matter of fact u cant beat it.

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Posted by Cory Estes on 03-09-2017 12:36 PM:

Thanks for the help fellers. And yeah i hear you there. You can tell by reading some of this stuff what seems logical and what doesn't. I usually do hunt around water, flatrock river runs through just about everything i hunt. i think he's just having a rough patch. Usually he trees slick off of a recast more so that out of the truck. I dont correct him on much of anything unless hes blatantly slick. Hes very timid from whoever had him before me. he's not much of a comp dog, he could win a couple casts but i dont use him for that, he doesn't have a big enough mouth, but I use him for my pup so i want him to be straight. I looked at a lot of coon over the summer and throughout kill season, treed 9 opening night of kill season in 3 hours behind him. I just think he is having a tough time lately. left him laid up last night so well see what he does tonight.

Posted by BradD20 on 03-09-2017 02:08 PM:

Went two nights ago and didn't get a good track until around 11:30. Last night my dog and my buddies split treed about 40 yards apart and both had the meat. We were back at the truck before 8:45. I think coons just do what they feel like at the time

Posted by Mike Knuckols on 03-09-2017 03:29 PM:

I had a sow have kitten coon born in cage yesterday

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