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Posted by MIKE CARDER on 11-13-2016 12:33 AM:

Issues

You know every time you look on here you see another issue with these Garmins. Are they that bad a product or is it mostly operator error. I can honestly say that I have not had many issues.

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Posted by Jrkb2012 on 11-13-2016 01:11 AM:

I've had garmins since the 220's first came out,and I haven't had the first issue with any of the other than having to calibrate the 320 more than I liked,,and I just love my Alpha's

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Posted by Darrell Eads on 11-13-2016 02:42 AM:

stick your ear in the wind and your dog on the ground learn to read the stars and carry a compass ,, Operator error only points out the dummies ,, so don't be rude

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Posted by MIKE CARDER on 11-13-2016 03:11 AM:

Well now

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Originally posted by Darrell Eads
stick your ear in the wind and your dog on the ground learn to read the stars and carry a compass ,, Operator error only points out the dummies ,, so don't be rude


Sort of like your comment?. All I was saying is not to many days go by there is another Garmin thread started. Heck look at the Garmin tip of the day thread, how many issues are on there. Is the equipment faulty or what? You tell me Darrell.

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Posted by rob thompson on 11-13-2016 03:13 AM:

No issues here but I coonhunt and don't watch garmin tv.


Posted by JiM on 11-13-2016 02:20 PM:

Mike, you have take into consideration the number of Garmin systems out there, probably tens of thousands. Then divide the number of problems you read about on here and you will see just how microscopic the number of problems really are. And then subtract the ones that Conkey fixes by telling them how disable declutter or some other problem associated with the lack of operator knowledge and you have very few real problems left.

The old DC 20, 30, and 40 collars were less than completely reliable but the Alphas and their collars have been as reliable for me as my beep beep''s ever were.

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Posted by Bruce m. Conkey on 11-13-2016 04:01 PM:

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Right now they are more reliable than they ever were and each real issue is being discussed and worked on by Garmin and there are only a small number of issues.

Lets break down the issues into categories.

Actual physical issues. Construction, parts, durability, push buttons, etc. The handhelds have very few problems. The collars have had issues but they are working on them an making any and all changes they can. I know there are several dog supply dealers around the country that work with Garmin on problems as they come up. Garmin takes information fed to them seriously trying to get you guys a good product. Not sure how many of you guys know this but Mark Zepp who has been in the dog world for sometime now. First with John Wick, then Tri Tronics and now Garmin. He is a key player in the Dog Supply Market for Garmin. He monitors this board and others and he talks to dealers. Garmin and Mark are interested in bringing you guys a great product.

Software problems. This may be the most aggravating for some but the easiest to fix. Problem is you have to have some computer skills and many hunters don't. These problems actually come from Garmin trying to give the hunters a lot of features and make these features mesh with different products. They just don't produce an ALPHA handheld. The make an ALPHA handheld then get it to work and communicate with a DriveTrack70, They have the ALPHA working and communicating with different watches and they have it working with several different maps. This takes software changes which can up uploaded from your computer when this happens and changes need to be made. There are two problems here. Sometimes it takes more that one software change which is on Garmin and the second issue is the ability of the user to update their gamins. If you ask most of the people who own ALPHAs what version of software they have downloaded into it, they could not tell you when it is just a couple screen touches away from you seeing exactly what you have. I highly suggest doing all you can to learn and understand your menus and what they do.

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 11-13-2016 04:36 PM:

Maybe Garmin problems are like most of the rule problems. If you just read the book most of them would solve themselves. Just look at all of the people that get "cheated".
I dropped my Alpha in 10-14 ft of water and lost it. Four weeks later they drained the pond and found my Alpha. After drying it out it works fine. I have problems with it but I just get my Instruction manual out and read it and figure out what to do. This Alpha sure is a lot more complicated than my old 220. But I used my 220 for 6 yrs. After 4 or 5 yrs, I might get this Alpha figured out.


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