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Posted by Bruce m. Conkey on 10-29-2016 01:34 PM:

Missing the coon by one or two trees.

Anyone experience this with a dog getting some age on them. Not packing but doing their on thing but seeing way too many coons, one or two trees away and not in the tree they are treeing on. Anyone experience this with their dogs?

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Posted by yadkintar on 10-29-2016 01:49 PM:

I don't know if it's what you are talking about but a lot of dogs after being in the hunts a lot just move over a couple trees because they get tired of some of the other dogs bad tree habits I see it quite often.


Posted by Bruce m. Conkey on 10-29-2016 02:09 PM:

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I have seen a dog move other when another dog is there but this in alone with no other dog there. Maybe figures one is coming. lol

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Posted by Shaun Paton on 10-29-2016 02:39 PM:

Over a few trees

Mr. Bruce, I would like to know if this hound trees layup coon for you as well? I'm far from any type of expert, but I have seen hounds that wind coon in trees and will tree at the point the scent is the strongest for them. Yes this would hurt in a comp hunt, but if the hound is smelling the coon and giving you his best effort to tree it I don't think that makes them wrong. As we keep learning these hounds will keep doing things that make us scratch our heads and make us wonder.

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Posted by yadkintar on 10-29-2016 02:44 PM:

Is there a difference on good tracks and bad tracks ?


Posted by Melblank on 10-29-2016 02:44 PM:

Mr. Conley you read my mind. I was going to ask this question this morning. Newer dog I have here has done that twice in the past few weeks. He is only 3 but has treed a couple of trees away from where coon was. He has never been competition hunted that I know of. Scent conditions here are poor, no rain in weeks, could be one explanation.


Posted by DFred on 10-29-2016 03:36 PM:

After hunting curs for many years I can say with certainty that a dog that trees layups, even one that excels at it, will sometimes be a tree or two off. Just like a bird dog pointing, it will be downwind of the game. Just like tracking, the ability to tree a layup is a skill that has to be honed. I love a dog that can lay one up AND track one down. I have taken minus in a hunt because my dog was sitting back "too far" from the tree the coon was in but the rules are the rules. When the dog is downwind, looking up, and tree barking and you find a coon upwind where the dog is looking, common sense says the dog treed it.


Posted by Triple K Kennel on 10-29-2016 05:22 PM:

Missing....

I have seen many, many hounds that are very accurate....then around 7-8 years old start to slip. When you can't find a coon in there tree, shine a few trees around close.......a lot of times Mr. Ringtail will be around close...😁

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Posted by DRhodes on 10-29-2016 06:03 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by DFred
After hunting curs for many years I can say with certainty that a dog that trees layups, even one that excels at it, will sometimes be a tree or two off. Just like a bird dog pointing, it will be downwind of the game. Just like tracking, the ability to tree a layup is a skill that has to be honed. I love a dog that can lay one up AND track one down. I have taken minus in a hunt because my dog was sitting back "too far" from the tree the coon was in but the rules are the rules. When the dog is downwind, looking up, and tree barking and you find a coon upwind where the dog is looking, common sense says the dog treed it.


X2!! My dog is what I'd consider pretty accurate most of the time. Trees a lot of layups and can work a track good too. May be off a tree or two on the layups from time to time but he's still gonna get pet up because he did the best he could with what he had and that is just scent in a breeze!!!


Posted by GA DAWG on 10-29-2016 07:37 PM:

Here I seem to see this more at this exact time of yr. Miss em by a few trees. Just certain type dogs. Is it because it's so dry and acorns? I don't know. I've saw them drive it in there hard. Fall treed and miss by a few trees. Has nothing to do with layups on one's I've saw do it mostly. Mostly one breed or strain of breed to that could just be coincidence.

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Posted by hopm on 10-29-2016 07:57 PM:

Re: Missing....

quote:
Originally posted by Triple K Kennel
I have seen many, many hounds that are very accurate....then around 7-8 years old start to slip. When you can't find a coon in there tree, shine a few trees around close.......a lot of times Mr. Ringtail will be around close...😁


this was my initial thought. I have seen dawgs age impact accuracy and tracking ability. They just have a harder time taking in air as they get older and it changes the efficiency of processing the smells they cone in contact with.


Posted by hopm on 10-29-2016 08:01 PM:

Re: Missing....

quote:
Originally posted by Triple K Kennel
I have seen many, many hounds that are very accurate....then around 7-8 years old start to slip. When you can't find a coon in there tree, shine a few trees around close.......a lot of times Mr. Ringtail will be around close...😁


this was my initial thought. I have seen dawgs age impact accuracy and tracking ability. They just have a harder time taking in air as they get older and it changes the efficiency of processing the smells they come in contact with.


Posted by CHEWBACH on 10-29-2016 08:20 PM:

Re: Missing the coon by one or two trees.

quote:
Originally posted by Bruce m. Conkey
Anyone experience this with a dog getting some age on them. Not packing but doing their on thing but seeing way too many coons, one or two trees away and not in the tree they are treeing on. Anyone experience this with their dogs?
Yep!! I call it slick!!

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