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Posted by harveycmd on 08-25-2016 05:09 PM:

Trump is now for Amnesty

Here we go again. Trump is flip flopping on yet another issue: minimum wage, guns, and now immigration. Without question the reason the vast majority of Trumpkins love the Chump is that he's supposedly "tough" on immigration. No more. He's gone from saying deport all illegal immigrants to saying we don't to "hurt" them.

Before the election arrives, he'll be handing out invitations to them as they illegally enter the country. Thanks again Trump backers. You've really done a number on us. We get to choose between Hillary1 and Hillary1A.


Posted by croatankid on 08-25-2016 07:43 PM:

we, as a country, have a problem. There are now so many minorities here that a conservative can't be elected without getting around 27% of their vote. Since most of them are and will always remain Mexicans at heart, their only concern is mexico and the rest of their family. They will not be happy until all of mexico is here and on the teat. They care nothing for America. They want nothing but a place at the trough so that they can feed on the American welfare system. I recall George Wallace, saying after losing an election, They, the democrats, "out N-worded us". Meaning the democrats promised more free stuff to the blacks than the republicans had.
So, our only hope is to give the Mexicans enough stuff to get 27% of their vote and then start thinning that herd by sending them back to their home, oh so sweet, home.

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Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 08-25-2016 08:08 PM:

Re: Trump is now for Amnesty

quote:
Originally posted by harveycmd
Here we go again. Trump is flip flopping on yet another issue: minimum wage, guns, and now immigration. Without question the reason the vast majority of Trumpkins love the Chump is that he's supposedly "tough" on immigration. No more. He's gone from saying deport all illegal immigrants to saying we don't to "hurt" them.

Before the election arrives, he'll be handing out invitations to them as they illegally enter the country. Thanks again Trump backers. You've really done a number on us. We get to choose between Hillary1 and Hillary1A.



I love how critical all you guys are of Trump. You cling to every word he says just lurking and waiting for him to say something you can dis-agree with. Here's a thought... Why don't you order you a bumper sticker, slap it on your bumper, get you a yard sign, and stop crying because he is the Republican nominee and nothing will change that.



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Posted by TomPurdy on 08-25-2016 08:35 PM:

Re: Re: Trump is now for Amnesty

quote:
Originally posted by Hoosier Man1
I love how critical all you guys are of Trump. You cling to every word he says just lurking and waiting for him to say something you can dis-agree with. Here's a thought... Why don't you order you a bumper sticker, slap it on your bumper, get you a yard sign, and stop crying because he is the Republican nominee and nothing will change that.






Trevor, you don't have to cling to every word. Just a few is all you need. Here is 5 quick examples off the top. I don't need to hear anymore than that. In fact I would prefer never to hear him again. Most seem to agree with me. He does his best campaign work when his mouth is closed. Are you suggesting we should just stop listening to him? Should he just get a free pass, and not be held accountable for what he says?

1. I'm 100% pro-choice
2. Hillary would make a great president
3. I hate the concept of guns
4. Obama is a B plus
5. I have a good relationship with Nancy Pelosi


Posted by berger on 08-25-2016 08:39 PM:

Re: Trump is now for Amnesty

quote:
Originally posted by harveycmd
Here we go again. Trump is flip flopping on yet another issue: minimum wage, guns, and now immigration. Without question the reason the vast majority of Trumpkins love the Chump is that he's supposedly "tough" on immigration. No more. He's gone from saying deport all illegal immigrants to saying we don't to "hurt" them.

Before the election arrives, he'll be handing out invitations to them as they illegally enter the country. Thanks again Trump backers. You've really done a number on us. We get to choose between Hillary1 and Hillary1A.




Harveycmd: I voted for Trump and I am PROUD of it. NOT ONCE DID I EXPECT THAT HE WOULD DEPORT ALL ILLEGALS. Trump knows how to bring good paying jobs back to the USA and get our economy rolling again better then it has been in 24yrs. He knows how to get the wall built and how to deal with Mexico so they pay for it one way or another. He believes in Law and Order and believes in the United States of America First.
We had NO chance of EVER having a Conservative President again in the USA unless Trump becomes President. He will pave the way to have individuals like Rand Paul, Mike Pence, Scott Walker, Trey Gowdy, Rubio, Carson and Even Cruz though Crus has no chance now he shot himself in the foot by showing the American people his word is worth nothing. These others will be sought after by majority of Americans to become President. Without Trump as President these guys have absolutely No chance of ever being President. Reagan was are last and he was good the problem was he picked Bush as his running mate and once Reagan was done we went right back to business as usual. Trump picked Pence this was a pick and a movement for America First.

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Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 08-25-2016 08:42 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Trump is now for Amnesty

quote:
Originally posted by TomPurdy
Trevor, you don't have to cling to every word. Just a few is all you need. Here is 5 quick examples off the top. I don't need to hear anymore than that. In fact I would prefer never to hear him again. Most seem to agree with me. He does his best campaign work when his mouth is closed. Are you suggesting we should just stop listening to him? Should he just get a free pass, and not be held accountable for what he says?

1. I'm 100% pro-choice
2. Hillary would make a great president
3. I hate the concept of guns
4. Obama is a B plus
5. I have a good relationship with Nancy Pelosi



If 5 things you say are true why are the establishment Dems and Repubs so afraid of Trump?

Also in about every speech he gives he makes it very clear obama has failed in every single aspect of his presidency so I'm calling bs on that one.

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Posted by TomPurdy on 08-25-2016 08:58 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Trump is now for Amnesty

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Hoosier Man1
If 5 things you say are true why are the establishment Dems and Repubs so afraid of Trump?

Also in about every speech he gives he makes it very clear obama has failed in every single aspect of his presidency so I'm calling bs on that one.
[/QUOTE

Trevor, there's no debate that the 5 statements are true!
Now I would ask you what leads you to believe the so called "establishments" are afraid of him?


Posted by TomPurdy on 08-25-2016 09:02 PM:

Re: Re: Trump is now for Amnesty

quote:
Originally posted by berger
Harveycmd: I voted for Trump and I am PROUD of it. NOT ONCE DID I EXPECT THAT HE WOULD DEPORT ALL ILLEGALS. Trump knows how to bring good paying jobs back to the USA and get our economy rolling again better then it has been in 24yrs. He knows how to get the wall built and how to deal with Mexico so they pay for it one way or another. He believes in Law and Order and believes in the United States of America First.
We had NO chance of EVER having a Conservative President again in the USA unless Trump becomes President. He will pave the way to have individuals like Rand Paul, Mike Pence, Scott Walker, Trey Gowdy, Rubio, Carson and Even Cruz though Crus has no chance now he shot himself in the foot by showing the American people his word is worth nothing. These others will be sought after by majority of Americans to become President. Without Trump as President these guys have absolutely No chance of ever being President. Reagan was are last and he was good the problem was he picked Bush as his running mate and once Reagan was done we went right back to business as usual. Trump picked Pence this was a pick and a movement for America First.



Berger, since you knew Trump was lying about immigration. What's your take on the wall? Do you expect that wall to get built on Mexico's dime? By the way I don't know if you saw it or not, but I had a thread started to continue our Trump/Kasich debate. You still in?


Posted by berger on 08-25-2016 09:18 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Trump is now for Amnesty

quote:
Originally posted by TomPurdy
Berger, since you knew Trump was lying about immigration. What's your take on the wall? Do you expect that wall to get built on Mexico's dime? By the way I don't know if you saw it or not, but I had a thread started to continue our Trump/Kasich debate. You still in?



Purdy the wall will get built on Mexico's dime. Trump knows the wall needs to be built for the safety of the U.S.A. not just for Mexican illegals but to deter drug trafficking, human trafficking, and to deter terrorists from just walking in across our border. If the wall had been built 10yrs. ago you would not have seen all these youth from S. America in the last 5 yrs. crossing Mexico to walk across Our southern border.
Yes I heard there were a lot of (bergers) posting and the thread got poofed and I didn't even get to post any time!!

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Posted by Bob Hennessey on 08-25-2016 09:57 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by croatankid
we, as a country, have a problem. There are now so many minorities here that a conservative can't be elected without getting around 27% of their vote. Since most of them are and will always remain Mexicans at heart, their only concern is mexico and the rest of their family. They will not be happy until all of mexico is here and on the teat. They care nothing for America. They want nothing but a place at the trough so that they can feed on the American welfare system. I recall George Wallace, saying after losing an election, They, the democrats, "out N-worded us". Meaning the democrats promised more free stuff to the blacks than the republicans had.
So, our only hope is to give the Mexicans enough stuff to get 27% of their vote and then start thinning that herd by sending them back to their home, oh so sweet, home.


George Wallace was a DEMOCRAT and in 1958 he lost the Democrat nomination to J. Malcolm another democrat. Malcolm was backed by the KKK and it was then Wallace made that statement. He was never a Republican.
It was his first run for Governor.


Posted by Stan Ferrell on 08-26-2016 01:23 AM:

Re: Trump is now for Amnesty

quote:
Originally posted by harveycmd
Here we go again. Trump is flip flopping on yet another issue: minimum wage, guns, and now immigration. Without question the reason the vast majority of Trumpkins love the Chump is that he's supposedly "tough" on immigration. No more. He's gone from saying deport all illegal immigrants to saying we don't to "hurt" them.

Before the election arrives, he'll be handing out invitations to them as they illegally enter the country. Thanks again Trump backers. You've really done a number on us. We get to choose between Hillary1 and Hillary1A.

You my man are delusional, Trump never ever said anything ever even close to amnesty. What do people like you get out of spreading lies?


Posted by croatankid on 08-26-2016 01:42 AM:

Bob, Thanks for that history lesson. I just remember the statement and assumed all the other. Did you know that or did you research this issue?

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Posted by Redneck Mafia on 08-26-2016 04:32 AM:

Help a crime committing illegal get back home vote trump!

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Posted by GA DAWG on 08-26-2016 05:18 AM:

Re: Re: Trump is now for Amnesty

quote:
Originally posted by Ed zachary
You my man are delusional, Trump never ever said anything ever even close to amnesty. What do people like you get out of spreading lies?
Him an lying Ted are big buddies. Talk on the phone all the time. Ted still mad and crying cause apparently now he couldn't even beat flip flopper. That's why he spreads em. Don't know about these other folk.

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Posted by Riverbottom Ron on 08-26-2016 06:50 AM:

KNOWLEDGE

I KNOW WHO IM VOTEING FOR MY MIND IS MADE UP, IT HAS BEEN EVER SINCE DONALD TRUMP SAID HE WAS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. BUT TO LISTEN AND READ THE STUFF THATS POSTED ON SOME OF THESE DIFFERENT POSTS . WHERE YOU GUYS GET YOUR INFORMATION IS AWSOME ! THE WAYS YOU WORD IT AND PUT THINGS TOGETHER AND TRY TO CONVINCE OTHERS WHY WERE WRONG AND OLE DONALD IS SUCH A BAD CHOICE FOR OUR COUNTRY THERE ARE A FEW OF YOU THAT ID VOTE FOR YOUS IN THE NEXT PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION IF YOU WOULD RUN. {LOL }I WILL SURE BE GLAD WHEN THIS ELECTION IS OVER WITH . SO THE {OLE TRUMPSTER CAN START MAKIN AMERICA GREAT AGAIN !!!!!!! I AM AS BALD AND SLICK AS A 8 BALL ON A POOL TABLE BUT WHEN HE WINS AND IS OUR PRESIDENT IM GONA TAKE AND SPEND A COUPLE BUCKS AND BUY ME A DONALD TRUMP HAIR PIECE OR TOUPE AND SEE IF DONALD WILL HIRE ME TO BE A SUPERVISOR ON ONE OF THE GANGS BUILDIN THAT WALL..{LOL],{LOL} SEE YOU GUYS .LATER KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK IM HEADED TO RICHMOND INDIANA TO AUTUMN OAKS... HAVE A BLESSED ONE ,,I HOPE TO SEE SOME OF YOUR THERE ,I THINK IL TAKE A TRUMP YARD SIGN AND PUT IT ON MY GOLF CART...... FROM THE RIVERBOTTOM ,,,RON GOD LOVES YAS AND IN CHRISTIAN LOVE ,,I DO TO !!!!

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Posted by Hey Preacher!!! on 08-26-2016 12:45 PM:

Maybe it would help the discussion on "amnesty" to define the term. What one considers "amnesty" may not be considered "amnesty" by others. For example in this article from conservative review (8-24-16), Trump explicitly states his opposition to "amnesty", but then speaks about a plan to "work with" illegals ("pay back-taxes",etc.). The article points out the similarity of this position to the Jeb Bush/Gang of 8 proposal that many labeled "amnesty". Obviously there are many opinions on what constitutes "amnesty". I'd like to hear from all of you as to what you would consider "amnesty".


https://www.conservativereview.com/...tion-on-amnesty

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Posted by Well Started on 08-26-2016 02:46 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Hey Preacher!!!
Maybe it would help the discussion on "amnesty" to define the term. What one considers "amnesty" may not be considered "amnesty" by others. For example in this article from conservative review (8-24-16), Trump explicitly states his opposition to "amnesty", but then speaks about a plan to "work with" illegals ("pay back-taxes",etc.). The article points out the similarity of this position to the Jeb Bush/Gang of 8 proposal that many labeled "amnesty". Obviously there are many opinions on what constitutes "amnesty". I'd like to hear from all of you as to what you would consider "amnesty".


https://www.conservativereview.com/...tion-on-amnesty



Yep, and Trump repeatedly railed against Jeb in the debates as being "very weak" on immigration, and now he's essentially taken the same position. I wasn't a Jeb fan, just saying.


Posted by Well Started on 08-26-2016 03:18 PM:

Re: KNOWLEDGE

quote:
Originally posted by Riverbottom Ron
I KNOW WHO IM VOTEING FOR MY MIND IS MADE UP, IT HAS BEEN EVER SINCE DONALD TRUMP SAID HE WAS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. BUT TO LISTEN AND READ THE STUFF THATS POSTED ON SOME OF THESE DIFFERENT POSTS . WHERE YOU GUYS GET YOUR INFORMATION IS AWSOME ! THE WAYS YOU WORD IT AND PUT THINGS TOGETHER AND TRY TO CONVINCE OTHERS WHY WERE WRONG AND OLE DONALD IS SUCH A BAD CHOICE FOR OUR COUNTRY THERE ARE A FEW OF YOU THAT ID VOTE FOR YOUS IN THE NEXT PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION IF YOU WOULD RUN. {LOL }I WILL SURE BE GLAD WHEN THIS ELECTION IS OVER WITH . SO THE {OLE TRUMPSTER CAN START MAKIN AMERICA GREAT AGAIN !!!!!!! I AM AS BALD AND SLICK AS A 8 BALL ON A POOL TABLE BUT WHEN HE WINS AND IS OUR PRESIDENT IM GONA TAKE AND SPEND A COUPLE BUCKS AND BUY ME A DONALD TRUMP HAIR PIECE OR TOUPE AND SEE IF DONALD WILL HIRE ME TO BE A SUPERVISOR ON ONE OF THE GANGS BUILDIN THAT WALL..{LOL],{LOL} SEE YOU GUYS .LATER KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK IM HEADED TO RICHMOND INDIANA TO AUTUMN OAKS... HAVE A BLESSED ONE ,,I HOPE TO SEE SOME OF YOUR THERE ,I THINK IL TAKE A TRUMP YARD SIGN AND PUT IT ON MY GOLF CART...... FROM THE RIVERBOTTOM ,,,RON GOD LOVES YAS AND IN CHRISTIAN LOVE ,,I DO TO !!!!


Ron, I try to follow you on this issue, but I seriously have a hard time making sense of it. How can you on one hand portray that you've supported Trump from the beginning and are proud of it, which I believe you have.

But then on the other hand make statements like

"HILARY @TRUMP NEITHER ONE OF THE 2 ARE WORTH A POPCORN FART !

Or, "WE ALL KNOW THAT NEITHER ONE OF THESE TWO SHOULD RUN OUR COUNTRY AS PRESIDENT."

Or, "MOST OF THE TIME YOU POST NEGATIVE REMARKS ABOUT WHAT SOME ONE POSTED,JUST BECAUSE YOU DONT AGREE WITH THEM,,,YOU REMIND ME OF OF THE PRESIDENT ELECT DONALD TRUMP WHEN HE DOESNT AGREE WITH HIS OPPONENTS DURING A DEBATE{LOL}HE STARTS ATTACKING THEM. {LOL}"

I understand that compared to Hillary, somebody believing wholeheartedly that Trump is the only choice. But I don't understand believing he was the only man ever for the job from the time he announced on, but then making statements about him like above? Help me understand your reasoning here.


Posted by Adams, Harold on 08-26-2016 05:31 PM:

Re: Re: Trump is now for Amnesty

quote:
Originally posted by Ed zachary
You my man are delusional, Trump never ever said anything ever even close to amnesty. What do people like you get out of spreading lies?


Trump said you have to have borders secure ie his wall before you can do amnesty....been his plan all along it sounds to me.....Google trump amnesty tweet....then there is a giant list of trump haters tweetin back....

Speaking of delusional....people believe trump is winning hands down....he has as many haters as hillopoop does....this is pure and simple an election of the lesser of two evils ......

If people would vote every incumbent out even the dog catcher for a few elections maybe we could get their attention and they would serve the people instead of a handful of donaters


Posted by oklared on 08-26-2016 06:22 PM:

Red face

IS HILLARY FOR IMIGRATION

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Posted by GA DAWG on 08-26-2016 07:19 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by oklared
IS HILLARY FOR IMIGRATION
We know dang well what she wants lol. Her or Trump are the only 2 with a shot and we see how a few here think about him. All they can say is what a looser he is. When in fact he's already beat more folks than any of their loosing favorites ever have or will beat.

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Posted by Hey Preacher!!! on 08-26-2016 07:38 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by oklared
IS HILLARY FOR IMIGRATION


Isn't everyone?

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Posted by Adams, Harold on 08-26-2016 10:49 PM:

Put one little fact on here and you guys steer the topic in a new direction....Just like a good liberal would do....hhmmmmmmm....Google is a mug fellows....lol


Posted by CHEWBACH on 08-26-2016 11:20 PM:

Talking win

We all gonna be friends after its all over with?

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Posted by Adams, Harold on 08-26-2016 11:56 PM:

Re: win

quote:
Originally posted by CHEWBACH
We all gonna be friends after its all over with?



Highly unlikely....the word friend like Coondog very over used....friendly aquaintints OK I'll go along with that...


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