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Posted by southernthunder on 05-23-2016 04:38 PM:

Bluetick Big Game Hunters

I would like to know who all hunts big game with bluetick hounds. searching for information and would like to have names and numbers if possible.

thanks in advance

Eddie Harp

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Southern Thunder Bluetick Kennels


HOME OF: GRNITECH GRCH PR HAMLIN'S DAVIE CROCKET HTX
2015 TRIPLE CROWN CHAMPION
2015 PURINA RACE BREED CHAMPION
2013, 2014, 2015 BBOA ZONE 7 KING OF HUNT, HIGH SCORE, DOUBLE CAST WINNER
2015 AUTUMN OAKS NATIONAL GRNITECH BLUETICK
2015 AUTUMN OAKS GRAND 16
2015 AUTUMN OAKS BBOA / BBCHA HIGH SCORING BLUETICK
2015 WINTER CLASSIC DOUBLE CAST WINNER PURINA POINTS EVENT
2015 WINTER CLASSIC BBOA HIGH SCORING BLUETICK
2015 ARKANSAS STATE PURINA CONTENDER CAST WINNER / HIGH SCORE
2015 MISSOURI STATE PURINA CONTENDER CAST WINNER / HIGH SCORE
2015 OKLAHOMA STATE PURINA CONTENDER CAST WINNER
2015 KENTUCKY STATE PURINA CONTENDER CAST WINNER
2015 INDIANA STATE PURINA CONTEDER CAST WINNER
2015 BBOA ZONE 7 CHAMPION / DOUBLE CAST WINNER / HIGH SCORE / KING OF HUNT
2015 BBOA TEXAS STATE CHAMPION / HIGH SCORE / KING OF HUNT
2015 BBOA / WESTERN ENGLISH SHOOTOUT DOUBLE CAST WINNER / HIGH SCORE / KING OF HUNT
2015 UNITED ENGLISH ARKANSAS STATE CHAMPIONSHIP CHAMPION / HIGH SCORE OVERALL CHAMPION
2015 BBOA YOUTH NATIONALS CAST WINNER 2ND OVERALL HIGH SCORE
2015 BBOA ZONE 7 HOUND OF THE YEAR
2015 BBOA/BBCHA GRAND REUNION RQE 1ST PLACE IOWA
2015 BBOA NATIONAL BLUETICK DAYS INVITATIONAL CAST WINNER / 1ST RUNNER UP
2015 ELBERT VAUGHN MEMORIAL CHAMPION
2015 BILL JACKSON MEMORIAL CHAMPION
2015 BOOMER SOONER CLASSIC CHAMPION
2015 WESTERN ENGLISH SPRING CLASSIS CAST WINNER
2015 OKLAHOMA STATE YOUTH CHAMPIONSHIP CAST WINNER
2015 BLUETICK CHALLENGE CHAMPION
2015 BBOA OKLAHOMA STATE CHAMPION / DOUBLE CAST WINNER / HIGH SCORE / KING OF HUNT
2015 UKC WORLD HUNT CAST WINNER
2016 PURINA NATIONALS CAST WINNER / BREED CHAMPION / HIGH SCORING BLUETICK
5 Time World Qualifier and 3 Peat Zone Champion
Too many wins to list them all

Jesus is Lord!


Posted by Gary Roberson on 05-24-2016 07:43 PM:

Eddie, as you know, I hunt lion and occasional bobcats with mine. I used to catch quite a few bobcats around here but we had a die out and populations are extremely low. I have to go south of San Antonio or the Navajo Reservation to find any bobcats. I make at 6-8 trips to the Navajo Reservation annually and a couple to the Big Bend region of Texas and New Mexico chasing lions.
I hunt coons around here to train and keep the dogs in shape but greatly prefer the lions. I especially like the lions on dry ground which separates the men from the boys.
Adios,
Gary


Posted by southernthunder on 05-24-2016 09:14 PM:

that's awesome and I would love to go chase one of those big cats with you sometime I would like to extend the invite to the big game hunters to become BBOA members, get some write ups for our beautiful hard cover Blue Book, and hopefully get some page adds in this year so all the bluetick folks can see the cream of the crop in every area of hunting with blueticks. I hope all is well with you and your family Gary and hope to see you at the Bluetick Reunion

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918-448-7321
Laelaps Pro Staff
Southern Thunder Bluetick Kennels


HOME OF: GRNITECH GRCH PR HAMLIN'S DAVIE CROCKET HTX
2015 TRIPLE CROWN CHAMPION
2015 PURINA RACE BREED CHAMPION
2013, 2014, 2015 BBOA ZONE 7 KING OF HUNT, HIGH SCORE, DOUBLE CAST WINNER
2015 AUTUMN OAKS NATIONAL GRNITECH BLUETICK
2015 AUTUMN OAKS GRAND 16
2015 AUTUMN OAKS BBOA / BBCHA HIGH SCORING BLUETICK
2015 WINTER CLASSIC DOUBLE CAST WINNER PURINA POINTS EVENT
2015 WINTER CLASSIC BBOA HIGH SCORING BLUETICK
2015 ARKANSAS STATE PURINA CONTENDER CAST WINNER / HIGH SCORE
2015 MISSOURI STATE PURINA CONTENDER CAST WINNER / HIGH SCORE
2015 OKLAHOMA STATE PURINA CONTENDER CAST WINNER
2015 KENTUCKY STATE PURINA CONTENDER CAST WINNER
2015 INDIANA STATE PURINA CONTEDER CAST WINNER
2015 BBOA ZONE 7 CHAMPION / DOUBLE CAST WINNER / HIGH SCORE / KING OF HUNT
2015 BBOA TEXAS STATE CHAMPION / HIGH SCORE / KING OF HUNT
2015 BBOA / WESTERN ENGLISH SHOOTOUT DOUBLE CAST WINNER / HIGH SCORE / KING OF HUNT
2015 UNITED ENGLISH ARKANSAS STATE CHAMPIONSHIP CHAMPION / HIGH SCORE OVERALL CHAMPION
2015 BBOA YOUTH NATIONALS CAST WINNER 2ND OVERALL HIGH SCORE
2015 BBOA ZONE 7 HOUND OF THE YEAR
2015 BBOA/BBCHA GRAND REUNION RQE 1ST PLACE IOWA
2015 BBOA NATIONAL BLUETICK DAYS INVITATIONAL CAST WINNER / 1ST RUNNER UP
2015 ELBERT VAUGHN MEMORIAL CHAMPION
2015 BILL JACKSON MEMORIAL CHAMPION
2015 BOOMER SOONER CLASSIC CHAMPION
2015 WESTERN ENGLISH SPRING CLASSIS CAST WINNER
2015 OKLAHOMA STATE YOUTH CHAMPIONSHIP CAST WINNER
2015 BLUETICK CHALLENGE CHAMPION
2015 BBOA OKLAHOMA STATE CHAMPION / DOUBLE CAST WINNER / HIGH SCORE / KING OF HUNT
2015 UKC WORLD HUNT CAST WINNER
2016 PURINA NATIONALS CAST WINNER / BREED CHAMPION / HIGH SCORING BLUETICK
5 Time World Qualifier and 3 Peat Zone Champion
Too many wins to list them all

Jesus is Lord!


Posted by Gary Roberson on 05-24-2016 09:28 PM:

I had an article in the BBCHA Blue Book this last edition where I spoke the virtues of blueticks being the versatile breed. The article seemed to have been fairly well received as I have had several folks contact me since it was mailed out to the membership.
I have been hunting with hounds for over 50 years and have hunted with many different breeds but the blue dogs seem to the wide variety of game and terrain that I ask them to hunt.
Adios,
Gary


Posted by banjo on 06-09-2016 04:10 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by southernthunder
that's awesome and I would love to go chase one of those big cats with you sometime


Eddie, I have had quite a few bobcat hounds over the years. It was a habit that started with me with the good fur prices in the early 80's. Treed one in the rain last week. As for the big cats, something I always wanted to do, just can't justify the 4k plus to hire a guide.

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Posted by southernthunder on 06-09-2016 04:21 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by banjo
Eddie, I have had quite a few bobcat hounds over the years. It was a habit that started with me with the good fur prices in the early 80's. Treed one in the rain last week. As for the big cats, something I always wanted to do, just can't justify the 4k plus to hire a guide.


That's expensive wow! I'm with you on that. I would like to go but can't afford nothing like that.

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Eddie Harp
918-448-7321
Laelaps Pro Staff
Southern Thunder Bluetick Kennels


HOME OF: GRNITECH GRCH PR HAMLIN'S DAVIE CROCKET HTX
2015 TRIPLE CROWN CHAMPION
2015 PURINA RACE BREED CHAMPION
2013, 2014, 2015 BBOA ZONE 7 KING OF HUNT, HIGH SCORE, DOUBLE CAST WINNER
2015 AUTUMN OAKS NATIONAL GRNITECH BLUETICK
2015 AUTUMN OAKS GRAND 16
2015 AUTUMN OAKS BBOA / BBCHA HIGH SCORING BLUETICK
2015 WINTER CLASSIC DOUBLE CAST WINNER PURINA POINTS EVENT
2015 WINTER CLASSIC BBOA HIGH SCORING BLUETICK
2015 ARKANSAS STATE PURINA CONTENDER CAST WINNER / HIGH SCORE
2015 MISSOURI STATE PURINA CONTENDER CAST WINNER / HIGH SCORE
2015 OKLAHOMA STATE PURINA CONTENDER CAST WINNER
2015 KENTUCKY STATE PURINA CONTENDER CAST WINNER
2015 INDIANA STATE PURINA CONTEDER CAST WINNER
2015 BBOA ZONE 7 CHAMPION / DOUBLE CAST WINNER / HIGH SCORE / KING OF HUNT
2015 BBOA TEXAS STATE CHAMPION / HIGH SCORE / KING OF HUNT
2015 BBOA / WESTERN ENGLISH SHOOTOUT DOUBLE CAST WINNER / HIGH SCORE / KING OF HUNT
2015 UNITED ENGLISH ARKANSAS STATE CHAMPIONSHIP CHAMPION / HIGH SCORE OVERALL CHAMPION
2015 BBOA YOUTH NATIONALS CAST WINNER 2ND OVERALL HIGH SCORE
2015 BBOA ZONE 7 HOUND OF THE YEAR
2015 BBOA/BBCHA GRAND REUNION RQE 1ST PLACE IOWA
2015 BBOA NATIONAL BLUETICK DAYS INVITATIONAL CAST WINNER / 1ST RUNNER UP
2015 ELBERT VAUGHN MEMORIAL CHAMPION
2015 BILL JACKSON MEMORIAL CHAMPION
2015 BOOMER SOONER CLASSIC CHAMPION
2015 WESTERN ENGLISH SPRING CLASSIS CAST WINNER
2015 OKLAHOMA STATE YOUTH CHAMPIONSHIP CAST WINNER
2015 BLUETICK CHALLENGE CHAMPION
2015 BBOA OKLAHOMA STATE CHAMPION / DOUBLE CAST WINNER / HIGH SCORE / KING OF HUNT
2015 UKC WORLD HUNT CAST WINNER
2016 PURINA NATIONALS CAST WINNER / BREED CHAMPION / HIGH SCORING BLUETICK
5 Time World Qualifier and 3 Peat Zone Champion
Too many wins to list them all

Jesus is Lord!


Posted by Gary Roberson on 06-09-2016 02:35 PM:

A lion hunt with an outfitter is an expensive hunt. I would rather hunt lion than anything else and have access to several ranches in Texas where we have a fair population. It is all dry ground and I never seem to find time to get out there until it is too hot. For this reason, I always purchase a tag in the Navajo Reservation and hunt with a buddy or by myself. This season runs from Oct.1 thru end of March. I also hunt on a few ranches in NM when I get the chance.
Adios,
Gary


Posted by southernthunder on 06-09-2016 03:22 PM:

if you guys wouldn't mind me tagging along I sure would like to go on a lion hunt some day.

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Eddie Harp
918-448-7321
Laelaps Pro Staff
Southern Thunder Bluetick Kennels


HOME OF: GRNITECH GRCH PR HAMLIN'S DAVIE CROCKET HTX
2015 TRIPLE CROWN CHAMPION
2015 PURINA RACE BREED CHAMPION
2013, 2014, 2015 BBOA ZONE 7 KING OF HUNT, HIGH SCORE, DOUBLE CAST WINNER
2015 AUTUMN OAKS NATIONAL GRNITECH BLUETICK
2015 AUTUMN OAKS GRAND 16
2015 AUTUMN OAKS BBOA / BBCHA HIGH SCORING BLUETICK
2015 WINTER CLASSIC DOUBLE CAST WINNER PURINA POINTS EVENT
2015 WINTER CLASSIC BBOA HIGH SCORING BLUETICK
2015 ARKANSAS STATE PURINA CONTENDER CAST WINNER / HIGH SCORE
2015 MISSOURI STATE PURINA CONTENDER CAST WINNER / HIGH SCORE
2015 OKLAHOMA STATE PURINA CONTENDER CAST WINNER
2015 KENTUCKY STATE PURINA CONTENDER CAST WINNER
2015 INDIANA STATE PURINA CONTEDER CAST WINNER
2015 BBOA ZONE 7 CHAMPION / DOUBLE CAST WINNER / HIGH SCORE / KING OF HUNT
2015 BBOA TEXAS STATE CHAMPION / HIGH SCORE / KING OF HUNT
2015 BBOA / WESTERN ENGLISH SHOOTOUT DOUBLE CAST WINNER / HIGH SCORE / KING OF HUNT
2015 UNITED ENGLISH ARKANSAS STATE CHAMPIONSHIP CHAMPION / HIGH SCORE OVERALL CHAMPION
2015 BBOA YOUTH NATIONALS CAST WINNER 2ND OVERALL HIGH SCORE
2015 BBOA ZONE 7 HOUND OF THE YEAR
2015 BBOA/BBCHA GRAND REUNION RQE 1ST PLACE IOWA
2015 BBOA NATIONAL BLUETICK DAYS INVITATIONAL CAST WINNER / 1ST RUNNER UP
2015 ELBERT VAUGHN MEMORIAL CHAMPION
2015 BILL JACKSON MEMORIAL CHAMPION
2015 BOOMER SOONER CLASSIC CHAMPION
2015 WESTERN ENGLISH SPRING CLASSIS CAST WINNER
2015 OKLAHOMA STATE YOUTH CHAMPIONSHIP CAST WINNER
2015 BLUETICK CHALLENGE CHAMPION
2015 BBOA OKLAHOMA STATE CHAMPION / DOUBLE CAST WINNER / HIGH SCORE / KING OF HUNT
2015 UKC WORLD HUNT CAST WINNER
2016 PURINA NATIONALS CAST WINNER / BREED CHAMPION / HIGH SCORING BLUETICK
5 Time World Qualifier and 3 Peat Zone Champion
Too many wins to list them all

Jesus is Lord!


Posted by Kevin Jackson on 06-11-2016 06:22 AM:

Clint and Darlene Pierce over around Denton Montana have some nice blue dogs and they do good with them on big game. Darlene's dad Dick Wilson had the blue dogs for years and now Clint and Darlene are raising them and Dick's nephew has some of the same stuff and Dick's granddaughter hunts too and has the same line. Super nice folks and pretty dang nice dogs. If I wanted a blue dog that's where I'd go to get one.

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Gr.Nt.Ch.Gr.Ch. 'PR' MT Red's Bobcat Bustin Billy

Nt.Ch.Ch. 'PR' MT Red's Coon Slammin Sage

Gr.Nt.Ch.Gr.Ch. 'PR' MT Red's Tree Bangin Buddy

Gr.Ch. 'PR' MT Red's Kim's Cat Crazy Maci

'PR' MT Red's Tree Ringin Rhea

(406)564-3061


Posted by southernthunder on 06-11-2016 12:52 PM:

Thanks for the info

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Eddie Harp
918-448-7321
Laelaps Pro Staff
Southern Thunder Bluetick Kennels


HOME OF: GRNITECH GRCH PR HAMLIN'S DAVIE CROCKET HTX
2015 TRIPLE CROWN CHAMPION
2015 PURINA RACE BREED CHAMPION
2013, 2014, 2015 BBOA ZONE 7 KING OF HUNT, HIGH SCORE, DOUBLE CAST WINNER
2015 AUTUMN OAKS NATIONAL GRNITECH BLUETICK
2015 AUTUMN OAKS GRAND 16
2015 AUTUMN OAKS BBOA / BBCHA HIGH SCORING BLUETICK
2015 WINTER CLASSIC DOUBLE CAST WINNER PURINA POINTS EVENT
2015 WINTER CLASSIC BBOA HIGH SCORING BLUETICK
2015 ARKANSAS STATE PURINA CONTENDER CAST WINNER / HIGH SCORE
2015 MISSOURI STATE PURINA CONTENDER CAST WINNER / HIGH SCORE
2015 OKLAHOMA STATE PURINA CONTENDER CAST WINNER
2015 KENTUCKY STATE PURINA CONTENDER CAST WINNER
2015 INDIANA STATE PURINA CONTEDER CAST WINNER
2015 BBOA ZONE 7 CHAMPION / DOUBLE CAST WINNER / HIGH SCORE / KING OF HUNT
2015 BBOA TEXAS STATE CHAMPION / HIGH SCORE / KING OF HUNT
2015 BBOA / WESTERN ENGLISH SHOOTOUT DOUBLE CAST WINNER / HIGH SCORE / KING OF HUNT
2015 UNITED ENGLISH ARKANSAS STATE CHAMPIONSHIP CHAMPION / HIGH SCORE OVERALL CHAMPION
2015 BBOA YOUTH NATIONALS CAST WINNER 2ND OVERALL HIGH SCORE
2015 BBOA ZONE 7 HOUND OF THE YEAR
2015 BBOA/BBCHA GRAND REUNION RQE 1ST PLACE IOWA
2015 BBOA NATIONAL BLUETICK DAYS INVITATIONAL CAST WINNER / 1ST RUNNER UP
2015 ELBERT VAUGHN MEMORIAL CHAMPION
2015 BILL JACKSON MEMORIAL CHAMPION
2015 BOOMER SOONER CLASSIC CHAMPION
2015 WESTERN ENGLISH SPRING CLASSIS CAST WINNER
2015 OKLAHOMA STATE YOUTH CHAMPIONSHIP CAST WINNER
2015 BLUETICK CHALLENGE CHAMPION
2015 BBOA OKLAHOMA STATE CHAMPION / DOUBLE CAST WINNER / HIGH SCORE / KING OF HUNT
2015 UKC WORLD HUNT CAST WINNER
2016 PURINA NATIONALS CAST WINNER / BREED CHAMPION / HIGH SCORING BLUETICK
5 Time World Qualifier and 3 Peat Zone Champion
Too many wins to list them all

Jesus is Lord!


Posted by nidaho on 06-18-2016 01:45 PM:

i would second clint and Darlene on there blue ticks. I have a 3 year old female from there stuff and she is by far my best dog. my problem is im new to hounds and I want to try every type of hound and I have a mixed color pack


Posted by Kevin Jackson on 06-19-2016 03:19 AM:

nidaho, what colors are you missing? Bet we can find a good one of each color for you to try!

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Montana Red Kennels - Redbones that catch game and hold it untill you get there.

Gr.Nt.Ch.Gr.Ch. 'PR' MT Red's Bobcat Bustin Billy

Nt.Ch.Ch. 'PR' MT Red's Coon Slammin Sage

Gr.Nt.Ch.Gr.Ch. 'PR' MT Red's Tree Bangin Buddy

Gr.Ch. 'PR' MT Red's Kim's Cat Crazy Maci

'PR' MT Red's Tree Ringin Rhea

(406)564-3061


Posted by nidaho on 06-19-2016 03:51 AM:

iv got red, white and blue. haven't decided on a color yet am leaning towards red and blue right now


Posted by jbsblues on 07-14-2016 12:58 AM:

Big game

I hunt blue dogs on bear in Wisconsin been having very good luck with them I have some nice pups 10 mths old running them


Posted by TBBLUE on 07-14-2016 04:20 AM:

I've had ,seen n hunted a lot of different lines of blue dogs over the years n I feed ray bred hounds.

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Posted by buckcreekgascon on 07-15-2016 02:45 AM:

Not trying to hijack anyone's post here bit I'm looking for some information on these big blue hounds of the west that are big game hounds. Can someone point me in the right direction to locate a big 100+ pound blue dog?

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Posted by Gary Roberson on 07-15-2016 02:35 PM:

Clint and Darlene Pearce have some of the bigger dogs that are mentioned by Kevin Jackson above. I am not sure that they will weigh over 100 pounds but I am sure that the males weigh in the 80-90 pound range.
Good luck and Adios,
Gary


Posted by Kevin Jackson on 07-16-2016 12:57 AM:

Just talked to their daughter and she said their males are 70-75 pounds and once in a while get one 80. They are not gascon type hounds. They are nice looking solid built hounds and the couple I've seen go were the real deal on lions. buckcreekgascons, I sent you a PM with Darlene's number so you can talk to her and she'll be able to tell you about them.

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Montana Red Kennels - Redbones that catch game and hold it untill you get there.

Gr.Nt.Ch.Gr.Ch. 'PR' MT Red's Bobcat Bustin Billy

Nt.Ch.Ch. 'PR' MT Red's Coon Slammin Sage

Gr.Nt.Ch.Gr.Ch. 'PR' MT Red's Tree Bangin Buddy

Gr.Ch. 'PR' MT Red's Kim's Cat Crazy Maci

'PR' MT Red's Tree Ringin Rhea

(406)564-3061


Posted by buckcreekgascon on 07-16-2016 02:05 AM:

Kevin thanks for doing that for me. I appreciate it.

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Highlands NC


Posted by Kevin Jackson on 07-16-2016 02:08 AM:

You bet. They have a litter now and another should be on the way. I'm not a bluetick guy but if I was going to buy one that's where it would come from.

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Montana Red Kennels - Redbones that catch game and hold it untill you get there.

Gr.Nt.Ch.Gr.Ch. 'PR' MT Red's Bobcat Bustin Billy

Nt.Ch.Ch. 'PR' MT Red's Coon Slammin Sage

Gr.Nt.Ch.Gr.Ch. 'PR' MT Red's Tree Bangin Buddy

Gr.Ch. 'PR' MT Red's Kim's Cat Crazy Maci

'PR' MT Red's Tree Ringin Rhea

(406)564-3061


Posted by bigskyblue on 07-16-2016 05:28 AM:

big game blueticks

Thanks for the comments from everyone. This is Darlene Pearce of Big Sky Blue Kennels. Yes, we raise and hunt blueticks from a line that my dad started years ago. We like our males to be in the 70-75 lb range. We do get some that run a bit bigger or smaller than that tho. We like our females in the 60-65 lb range. Most of all.... to be of breed quality, they must be hunters! We do have a litter on the ground that is a week old and another litter expected September 13th. I will eventually post on Big Game Classifieds, but until then, you can contact us.....
Home 406-567-3064.....Clint cell 406-366-2401 Darlene cell 406-366-2400
We love to chat with other houndsmen and women!!
Happy hunting!!!
Darlene

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Posted by Ray&Luie on 07-16-2016 02:58 PM:

Clint and Darline

quote:
Originally posted by Gary Roberson
Clint and Darlene Pearce have some of the bigger dogs that are mentioned by Kevin Jackson above. I am not sure that they will weigh over 100 pounds but I am sure that the males weigh in the 80-90 pound range.
Good luck and Adios,
Gary



Gary didn't they get a male from you and is he the one on my face book page just wondering ?

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Posted by bigskyblue on 07-16-2016 04:35 PM:

No. We have never gotten a dog from Gary, but we have friends that have exchanged puppies with Gary.

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406-567-3064

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Posted by Gary Roberson on 07-18-2016 06:00 PM:

A good friend and hunting partner of mine from MT has a really nice female from Clint and Darlene. I have traded pups with him and sent five pups up there to other lion hunters and bear hunters.
I don't hunt bear, prefer to concentrate on lions. Bear hunting is illegal in Texas and when I go out of state, many times I hunt before bears are hibernating and don't want my dogs messing with them. I much prefer to hunt dry ground as I live down here in this desert.
Adios,
Gary


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