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Posted by Drafts'CoonDogs on 03-31-2016 03:12 AM:

Bloodlines??

Does anyone know what bloodlines the late Mr. James Riley from S.C. had in his dogs? My uncle used to hunt with him back in the 80's and said he had some top notch hounds. He also had some dogs from his stock and said they were 110% COON DOG. He said Mr. Riley had one male he called "rambo" and my uncle's male out of his stock was called "big boy"... Any help would be much appreciated! Thanks!


Posted by Craig Edwards on 04-02-2016 12:33 AM:

Re: Bloodlines??

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Originally posted by Drafts'CoonDogs
Does anyone know what bloodlines the late Mr. James Riley from S.C. had in his dogs? My uncle used to hunt with him back in the 80's and said he had some top notch hounds. He also had some dogs from his stock and said they were 110% COON DOG. He said Mr. Riley had one male he called "rambo" and my uncle's male out of his stock was called "big boy"... Any help would be much appreciated! Thanks!


I know one dog he had, Sail, was out of Earl Hill's Ark. Blue. Blue was 1/2 brother to a lot of Warren Haslouer's dogs.

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Posted by Wayne Valentino on 04-02-2016 06:10 PM:

His

Kennel Name was Edisto River, what bloodlines he used to establish his hounds other than Hill's, I don't remember.

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Posted by capt_agricultur on 04-02-2016 06:27 PM:

ANNE & I STAYED STAYED W/ JAMES & LOUISE WHEN WE WENT TO THE GRAND AMERICAN

.....SAIL PUT THE TREENG ABILITY INTO THEM


Posted by Driftwoodblue on 04-03-2016 01:56 PM:

Vaughn's Arkansas Blue.

James Bought Vaughn's Ark Blue from Leroy Penny. Leroy had bought him from Tom Garris . Tom Traded a nice quarter horse mare to Elbert for him and was not to breed him. Tom did not but shortly after Mr Penny bought him he was bred a lot.My brother-in Law worked with Tom Garris back then.

James had him at stud for a time.


Posted by John Carroll on 04-03-2016 03:36 PM:

Re: Vaughn's Arkansas Blue.

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Originally posted by Driftwoodblue
James Bought Vaughn's Ark Blue from Leroy Penny. Leroy had bought him from Tom Garris . Tom Traded a nice quarter horse mare to Elbert for him and was not to breed him. Tom did not but shortly after Mr Penny bought him he was bred a lot.My brother-in Law worked with Tom Garris back then.

James had him at stud for a time.



Why was he not supposed to breed him?

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Posted by Drafts'CoonDogs on 04-03-2016 08:14 PM:

thanks for all the replies yall. i talked to my uncle yesterday and he said he had a lot of dogs that came outta arkansas. im guessing thats where Earl Hill lives?


Posted by Drafts'CoonDogs on 04-04-2016 02:38 PM:

Who do I need to talk to about getting a Vaughn bred pup?


Posted by John Carroll on 04-04-2016 04:35 PM:

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Originally posted by Drafts'CoonDogs
Who do I need to talk to about getting a Vaughn bred pup?


Others will tell you differently, but there aren't really any.

Elbert has been dead a long time.

Some guys have dogs that go back to his sock, and that's about as close as you can get.

Of course, just about every Blue dog alive goes back to his stock.

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Posted by Drafts'CoonDogs on 04-04-2016 06:27 PM:

thanks john carroll. i figured it was probably some long lost bloodline lol. im new to the bluetick bloodlines. trying to learn them as i go. i hunt english dogs now but i am very interested in the blueticks. they seem to have more of what i look for in a hound.


Posted by John Carroll on 04-04-2016 11:39 PM:

I have given you my opinion.

A lot of good and knowledgeable Bluetick men may tell you something different.

I would talk to Steve Perryman ifI were you.

He might know whereto send you.

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Posted by Drafts'CoonDogs on 04-05-2016 03:13 AM:

Will do! Thanks!!


Posted by cwbluebio on 04-06-2016 11:24 AM:

The Sail dog of James was named Smokey River Blue Sail. James renamed him Edisto River Blue Sail. And the dog mentioned earlier Vaughn's Arkansas Blue was not the original one who came along years before that Elbert had. UKC"s name change policy would prevent that from happening now.


Posted by Drafts'CoonDogs on 04-06-2016 06:22 PM:

thanks cwbluebio. do you know where i can find some smokey river pups? i would like to find some that are smokey river top and bottom if possible.


Posted by Richard Edinger on 04-06-2016 07:51 PM:

Dennis Shepherd-Salisbury, N.C.

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Posted by Drafts'CoonDogs on 04-06-2016 09:23 PM:

what is mr shepherds number?


Posted by Richard Edinger on 04-06-2016 11:59 PM:

Dennis

Sent you a pm

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