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Has anyone noticed anything different about the redbone breed the past few years?

As many of you know...I got away from dogs and hunting for several years do to work, family and further education. I started back to hunting again in the fall of 2010 and it took me awhile to catch up on the breed and what has been going on since I stepped away.
Anyway, I am just wondering if people think the breed has picked up any steam from a competition perspective over the last few years or is it pretty much about where it always has been?
To me it seems like it is gaining momentum....but I could just feel that way because what I have been doing in my breeding program seems to be headed in the right direction....for now.
What do you who have been closely involved for the past 10,15,20 or more years without being away from the breed feel like?
When I look around...it just seems like we have more redbones making Grand Nite and placing in bigger hunts..especially the money hunts the past few years...but maybe it's just me.
Does anyone else feel like there has been higher than normal momentum building in the redbone breed on the competition side?
Do you see an increase in demand for redbone pups from competition hunters who have always hunted walkers or other breeds but now want to win with a redbone?
How about the overall quality of our competition redbones...is it better now...or about the same as 10 or 20 years ago. I have my own opinions, but would like to get everyone else's and see what the majority think.
Please share your opinions and thoughts...thanks!

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Shane Maxey
Proud lifetime member of the NRA
Banshee Wildlife Products
Hoosier Outlaw / Moonlight Redbones
1994 American Redbone Coonhound Association Hunter of the Year
My first 3 redbones raised from pup's were:
Dual Gr.Ch. Outlaw Billy the Kid
Dual Gr.Ch.- PKC Ch. Outlaw Timber Girl
Dual Gr.Ch. Outlaw Scarlett Fever
(((( Current Favorites ))))
2013 AKC Ladies World Champion
Gr.Nt.Ch.- PKC Ch- AKC Ladies World Ch Ky Moonlight Breanna
Gr.Nt.Ch. - PKC Ch. Ky Moonlight Woody
Dual Grand Moonlight Deana
Dual Grand Ch.- PKC Ch. Moonlight AfterShock
Dual Grand Nighty Night Amber
Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Big Time Britt
Gr.Nt.Ch Outlaw Billy Jean
Gr.Nt.Ch-PKC Ch.-2015 PKC Red Days Champ Outlaw Cherry Bomb
Gr.Nt.Ch Outlaw Breeze
Gr.Nt.Ch.Gr.Ch. All Grand Outlaw G-Man (over $20.000 won in PKC & CHKC) 2019 Southern Redbone Days Overall Champion
Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Outlaw Mac
Gr.Nt.Ch. Classy Cali (Heavy Outlaw bred)
Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Cat Scratch Fever
Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Addiction
Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Overdose
Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Jinx
Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Banshee
"Always outnumbered...Never outgunned!"
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JMO

There are more good reddogs out there than ever before. We are headed in the right direction. People looking for a different hunting style of hound is making an impact in our breed.

For years all I heard was crap about redbones, I tried to "fit in" and hunted walkers, I gave up and got a redbone and have never seen so many coon with a pup, so yea the redbone world has come a long ways,on top of that the redbone breeders seem to support one another for the betterment of the breed!!! I will never own another walker, I think your answer is "h''l yes

We are definitely headed in the right direction and on the upswing of what I refer to as the Redbone Revolution. We not only have Walker guys wanting to hunt Redbones now, we have some of the bigger names in PKC hunting them now and more that are waiting for a good one. We've had a Redbone on top of the PKC Pro Series two years in a row now and started off with a big bang winning that Grand American Hunt this year. We had a Redbone in the top 2 of the Grand Masters last fall and top 2 of the first Breed Challenge Hunt this year. I think there will be more Redbones winning Big Hunts this year. We have a lot of momentum right now.

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Dr. Allen Hallada (Doc Halladay)

Current:

PKC Ch. Gr.Nt.Ch. Cat Scratch Fever
(Gr.Nt.Ch. PKC Ch. Moonlight Aftershock x Gr.Nt.Ch. PKC Ch. Moonlight Outlaw Breanna)
2016 Finished to PKC Ch. in one week!

Dual Grand Champion CHKC Ch., PKC Gold Ch. All Grand Outlaw G-Man
(Gr.Nt.Ch.Glissens JJ Jr. x Gr.Nt.Ch. Outlaw Billy Jean)
4 Generations of All Grand Nite Champions!
Timber Jack 3X and Timber Chopper over 30X
2019 Southern National Redbone Days Champion
2016 National Grand Nite Champion Redbone
2016 CHKC Redbone Days Champion
2016 PKC Super Stakes Reserve Champion
2016 CHKC Elite Shootout Winner - Texas
CHKC All Time Money Winning Redbone

Bodacious
(Gr.Nt.Ch. Gr.Ch.PKC. Gold Ch.CHKC CH. Outlaw G-Man x Gr.Nt.Ch.Gr.Ch. CHKC Ch., PKC Gold Ch. Classy Cali)


Past:
Gr.Nt.Ch.Ch. Dawns Timber Jack
1988 American Redbone Days All Red Hunt Winner
1989 UKC World Champion Redbone
1989 Purina Outstanding Redbone Coonhound
#2 Historic Redbone Sire/ Top 20 All Breeds
American Redbone Coonhound Assoc. Hall of Fame

Gr.Nt.Ch. Bussrow Bottom Brandy II
1991 American Redbone Days Champion
1992 AKC World Champion Redbone
1992 ACHA World Champion Redbone
1992 Wisconsin State Champion
1994 US Redbone Days Opposite Sex
Produced 2 Nt. Ch. , 1 Gr.Nt.Ch. out of 2 litters and two Redbone Days Winners

Gr.Nt.Ch.Gr.Ch. PKC Gold Ch. Layton's Classy Cali
2012 UKC World Champion Redbone and 7th Place Overall
2012, 2013, 2014, 2015 UKC World Champion Redbone Female
2015 PKC Blue Ribbon Pro Hunt Winner - Goodsprings, AL
2015 PKC Blue Ribbon Pro Series Race - 3rd Place Overall
2016 PKC Blue Ribbon Pro Hunt Winner - New Albany, MS
2016 PKC Texas State Race Winner
2016 PKC Redbone Breed Race Winner
PKC All Time Money Winning Redbone

PKC Ch. Gr.Nt.Ch. Coffman's Smokin Red Buck
2016 UKC World Hunt 5th Place and World Champion Redbone
2016 National Redbone Days Overall Winner

Gr.Nt.Ch. Reinhart's Central Page
(Gr.Nt.Ch. Timber Jack x Gr.Nt.Ch. Brandy II)

Gr.Nt.Ch. Too the Maxx
(Gr.Nt.Ch. Timber Jack x Gr.Nt.Ch. Jenkins Crying Katie)
1992 National Redbone Days Champion

Gr.Ch.Nt.Ch. Ambraw River Rock
(Gr.Nt.Ch. Timber Jack x Gr.Ch.Nt.Ch. Hersh's Huntin Red Kate)
1992 US Redbone Days Opposite Sex

Nt.Ch. Tree Bustin Annabelle
1986 American Redbone Days All Red Hunt Winner

Nt.Ch. Timber Mace
(Gr.Nt.Ch. Timber Jack X Nt.Ch. Tree Bustin Annabelle)
Mother of Gr.Nt.Ch. Babb's Hazel

Nt. Ch. Timber Shock
(Gr.Nt.Ch.Timber Jack x Gr.Nt.Ch. Outlaw Jessie)

Gr. Ch. Nt. Ch. Squaw Mountain Goldie
(Direct Daughter of Gr.Nt.Ch.Smokey Mountain Brandy)
1990 Autumn Oaks Best of Show Winner
1988 Indiana State Champion

different

I think things are different. We have different people winning with different dogs but overall I really don't see all that much change in the dog power. It's been a while ago but I remember when Harry O was the guy to beat and he did his share of winning. Music won AO, Doc won winter Classic and before that Red and Rocky won a bunch. Then there was all the red power in the Purina Race back when it was a real marathon. Kate, Grasshopper,Jackie,Little Red, Quad, if I remember Allen Gingerich even had a dog that was very,very hard to beat at about that same time.
Farther back then that there were some foundation dogs that certainly turned many heads . Dogs like Timber Jack, Ramblin Red Ace, and TimberChopper. These dogs became studs because of how well they competed against all breeds. I have left out many fine hounds. I'm not saying the dogs we have today are not as good, what I'm saying is we have short memories and I would love to be on a cast that had todays top dog hunting against TimberChopper , Yellow River Red, and Kate.
Every Generation has it's dogs I believe the top hounds of yesterday are no better than todays and todays are no better than those top hounds of the past. JMO

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Sawblade Kennels/owner Kelly Hyde

Proud Breeder of the following dogs
GrNiteCh Sawblade Fiddle "no.5 historical female
QuadGrCh Yellow River Red Blaze
GrNiteCh Copeland's Red Hot Clyde
GrNiteCh Stone's Midnight Red Jake
NiteCh Brights Choctaw Night Time Sissy
NiteCh Sawblade Red Reckon
NiteCh Brasee Red Penny
NiteCh Nacalus Mandolin
Yellow River Fiddle II " good reproducer"
NiteCh Krasa Sawblade Quikstuf Bone
GrNiteCh Krasa Hair Trigger Hope
GrNiteCH Locked and Loaded Jake
GrNiteCh Moonlight Woody
NiteCh Sawblade Mac Truck " Jake and Hopes' brother"
NiteCh After Dark Spark " brother to Fiddle"
NiteCh Morgan's Boone " sister to Fiddle"
NiteCh High Water June " out of Reckon"
NiteCh Sawblade Timberline Rusty
Sawblade Ribbon,


They are bred with heart and drive included.

From a small kennel with Big results.

I dont know if the dogs have changed (at least not since 2001) I have no knowledge prior to that. I was a Walker guy back then but wasnt colorblind I had two Redbones back then one was a very good dog and I did not know what I had at the time and the other a mediocre female. I think the dog power has been there at least since then I think the breed is gaining more good handlers which is certainly helping this breed pick up steam.

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Hounds I own
PR LT Redcoat Wait Till Sundown(Dual Grand T-Top Dark Timber Moose X Longtrail Redcoat Reaper)

PR Long Trail Redcoat Lucky Walter (Dual GR T-Top Dark Timber Moose xSML Dark Timber Bobbie Ann) co owner Ron Wolters


PR Long Trail Redcoat Reaper(GRCHPR Hershs Huntin Red 90/4 Life Gun HTX X CH PR Stone&Redcoat DBL Moon Kate II) co owner Ron Wolters

Hounds Im hunting
PR Soggy Bottom Dark Timber Addy : owners Buck Ratliff/Mike Laster

NTCH GRCH Dark Timber Red Angus : owners Buck Ratliff and Myself

I can't speak for much of the past but I'll say redbones, to me, didn't even exist in the competition sector I ran here locally and even at the bigger hunts I attended. I would draw one maybe 1-2x a year, and neither of those impressed me much. And by number that still hasn't changed in my point of view.

However, those I've watched closely and hunted with since coming to redbones have really impressed me for the most part. I've seen a few I wouldn't have, some I HATED, a couple I'd give a kidney to have, and many just good solid dogs.

In any competition, much like business, slowly and carefully overtime you can improve what you have all the while the competition begins to slip, and that very well could be a good enough reason to win big more often. The odds will always be against redbones in number, so quality has to remain the key component. And by quality I mean accuracy. You get in a hurry wanting a faster dog that makes more trees and you'll be just like the rest, and what fun is that?

So I personally think things are better, it's nice to see some red splashed in more often in those glossy winning photos.

Nicely said Adam. You brought out some excellant points.

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Originally posted by Sawblade
I think things are different. We have different people winning with different dogs but overall I really don't see all that much change in the dog power......Every Generation has it's dogs I believe the top hounds of yesterday are no better than todays and todays are no better than those top hounds of the past. JMO

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I don't think it's so much the dog power is that much better.Just the red dogs are getting more opportunities than before.More people are putting them in the hunts therefore giving them more opportunities to win.

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Tenn-Mizz Kennel
423-562-7716 or 423-494-8030
2003 American Redbone Assoc.
Hunter of the Year
Home of:
GrNtCh PKC Ch 2x National GrNtCh English Ohio War NyHawk Co owned with Cody Sullivan

GrNtCh PKC Ch Dr Feelgood Co owned with Adam Huckaby
2016 Performance Points Runner Up Overall
2016 Performance Points Redbone Breed Winner
2016 American Redbone Days Overall Champion
1st Place NtCh & High Scoring Male Friday
1st Place NtCh & High Scoring Male Saturday
High Scoring Male Saturday 2014 American Redbone days Olney,IL.
1st Place RQE Marshall, Mo.
Double Cast Winner Winter Classic Batesville,Ms.
4th Place RQE Wartburg, TN.

GrNtCh Peels Burning River Rebel
2nd Place Reg. 2013 American Redbone Days


GrNtCh PKC CH Peel's Burning Pepper
2006 PKC Redbone Days Overall Champion

2005 American Redbone Days Overall Champion


ChGrNtCh PKCCh Stepp's Little Pepper
#1 Current Reproducer when he died
2003 US Redbone Days Overall
Champion
2003 American Redbone Days
Overall Champion
2002 US Redbone Days
Opposite Sex Champion
2002 American Redbone Days
Opposite Sex Champion
2001 Brooks Magill Memorial
Overall Champion
2000 NKC World Championship
19th Place Overall

GrChGrNtCh PKCCh Peel's Red Jewel II
1997 American Redbone Days
Opposite Sex Champion
1997 Brooks Magill Memorial Overall Champion

ChGrNtCh Peel's Red Pepper
ARCA Hall of Fame Member
1995 AKC World Championship High Scoring Redbone Male

I still don't see that the competition side of things have changed much since I have been hunting redbones, but I have only been hunting Redbones for about ten years. There are still a bunch of tricolors winning. I do think the redbones seems to have got better as far as competion dogs but so has everything else.

As far as titles or making one Grand night I think that has got easier do to the fact that it seems that entries in local UKC hunts have dropped off considerably. I know at are club we are rated #2 in the state of Indiana as far as total entries received at local UKC events. Are club has even seen a reduction in the last couple of years in the amount of entries received. We used have on average 20 to 40 dogs at any UKC hunt, but we are lucky to draw 15 to 20 on a good night unless it's a breed sectional or RQE. Even are RQE numbers have dropped. We used to see around 60 to 80 dogs but now we are lucky to hit 50. The money hunts have gained entries by leaps and bounds. We hit 20 to 40 dogs on a normal open hunt on the weekend and around 10 to 20 on a week night. I think this has a been growing trend in my area in the Indiana. So I feel the "title" thing has lost a bit of luster in are area. It may not be like this everywhere, but I bet there has been less UKC entries received at local hunts on average throughout the US over the last few years. So if it's easier to title a dog and it takes less hunts to do than people are not going to go to as many hunts.

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Jared Hutcheson
Indiana
Redbones:
GRNTCH PKC Ch PR Hutch's Big Walnut Boone HTX DNA-V(Haze X Reba)-
2 Time UKC World Top 100
UKC World Top 20 (13th)
UKC Purina Redbone of the year
PKC Redbone CH
UKC Top Producers List
UKC Winter Classic High Scoring Redbone
Co owned with Richard Lambert

GrNtCh PKC Ch One Chance Fancy- (Boone X Toadie)
2018 Autumn Oaks Grand 16
2018 Grand National Redbone
2018 Redbones Days RQE 1st Place

Walkers-
NTCh PKC CH Jeb’s Finley River Peanut- Co owned with Bishop Stallcop
Claremont PKC Legacy hunt Final 4
PKC Breeders Showcase Final 4

Good times.

I see the breed doing real good. What I notice most is, there are several branches (lines) of the breed that offer top competition type hounds. It use to be just a couple lines could compete. Now you find several have that bred in them. I won't try and name them all due to fear of leaving some out. The breed could get better and better if the best dogs of each line get crossed to the best of other lines.
Shane, you and your team are doing a fine job of breeding, competing and promoting your line of top competition dogs. All of the breed benefits from this. Thank you.

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Darrin Gher
Elbridge Redbones
Home of
GRNTCH PR' Steve-O and Chili's Red Flow
NTCH PR' Twisters Musical Red Huey DNA-VIP Perf Sire 06'07 Deceased 11/07
Former Home of
NTCH 'PR' Swann's Lonesome Red Music/ Kitty
NTCH. CH PR' SawBlade Red Reckon
NTCH. CH PR' Gher's Timber Mt. Brandy
Breeder of
GRNTCH PR' Daugherty's Red BUBBA
NTCH CH PR' BA'S Tree Top Rockin Griddle
NTCH PR' Lickcreek Backwoods Lil Red Annie

I think the dogs are about the same are we have maybe a few more top end hounds
Back when I first started in this breed there was just one group that would be pushing a dog or line in the whole breed at the bigger hunts outlaws then a year or so later it was fireball then it was Danny and Harry with the yellow river then it was nighty night gang then the moonlight crew seemed like They took turns or pasted the torch now you got several groups like that not just one witch makes a Us much more competive

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mark marshall

favorits ive hunted and or owned
grnt nighty nite moonlight kate rip
grnt moonlight pepper ann
Grnt jackpot Jackie rip
grnt rocky top jet
ntch moonlight katie rip
ntch moonlight madona
ntch beaver creek blaze rip
ntch moonlights dirty danny b.rip (ntch moonlight kink x ntch sawblade reckon)
Current
Grnt moonlight ky Kate (grnt ranger x grnt moonlight Kate
Ntch Pr beaver creeks easy peezy three 1st place wins (jet x moonlight Bree)
Pr beaver creeks moonlight coon buster ( moonlight shock x moonlight Bree)

I agree with Mark, Kelly, and Richard. The biggest thing I have noticed though is that the red dogs seem to STAY better at the tree than years past. That makes a difference.

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Originally posted by RedScorpion
I agree with Mark, Kelly, and Richard. The biggest thing I have noticed though is that the red dogs seem to STAY better at the tree than years past. That makes a difference.

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It used to be said that red dogs didnt travel well.
In their back yard they dominated but fell apart when traveling across the country.
You guys would know about that better than me.

im not hunting now due to my health but have hunted red dogs for 52yrs the only thing i think has changed in the breed is over the yrs is they have way more go to them when cut loose than the old blood and are way more tree minded and you don't have alot of trash problems with most red dogs but ive been wrong before

Back in the late 60's and early 70's when I started the biggest complaint from some hunters was that most redbones did not hunt far enough and fast enough and beings the compitition hunts reward the dogs for being first to strike and tree this didn't suit some hunters. One of the changes I have seen is several lines of redbones today have been bred that has sure cured that. They will go! Some hunters still don't want dogs like this and I understand why they feel this way the older I get. They want dogs that hunt with you and have a good handle on them and there is nothing wrong with that. I still say a close hunting hound that opens when he smells a coon and is a stay put treedog and takes few or no minus points will still win a lot of casts but to win consistantly in major hunts dogs need to get deep and in a hurry. We have that option today thanks to many breeders wanting to prove redbones can compete at every level. As far as treedogs go I have hunted with some tremendous treedogs both past and present. That has always been there in my opinion.

Reds

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Originally posted by elvis
It used to be said that red dogs didnt travel well.

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Elvis, you are right and that may be one big difference today. In the past, there were a lot of Redbones that didn't hunt well or get along with strangers. But I think that has been bred out of most of them. When you breed to the dogs that are winning all over the country then it will automatically disappear. In the past most Redbones were just bred to a hound that was close by. In the past most Redbone hunters stayed pretty much close to home. So their hounds were bred and trained to fit their particular hunting terrain. Now a lot of Redbone hunters are beginning to get out and travel around more so they need a more balanced hound that is better suited to hunt in different conditions and terrain.

To a certain degree, I tend to think that the people behind the dogs are getting better and better too. We have quite a few good quality breeders, owners, trainers and handlers hunting Redbones nowadays, that help improve the breed and bring new people into it and in my opinion I that helps just as much as better genetics, breeding stock, ability, etc.

I would say this is true for everybody but Richard, he's still as mangy as ever

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Corey Gruver
Greenville, PA
(724) 456-6813

maybe

Not real sure but maybe we as a breed just cull harder . One other note I do believe the fact that true reproducing records are available and "bragging" can either be proven fact or false has brought the better reproducers into the light. These dogs hold the traits we all want and the genetics that have always been there. I still thing a top hound is a top no matter when it was born.

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Sawblade Kennels/owner Kelly Hyde

Proud Breeder of the following dogs
GrNiteCh Sawblade Fiddle "no.5 historical female
QuadGrCh Yellow River Red Blaze
GrNiteCh Copeland's Red Hot Clyde
GrNiteCh Stone's Midnight Red Jake
NiteCh Brights Choctaw Night Time Sissy
NiteCh Sawblade Red Reckon
NiteCh Brasee Red Penny
NiteCh Nacalus Mandolin
Yellow River Fiddle II " good reproducer"
NiteCh Krasa Sawblade Quikstuf Bone
GrNiteCh Krasa Hair Trigger Hope
GrNiteCH Locked and Loaded Jake
GrNiteCh Moonlight Woody
NiteCh Sawblade Mac Truck " Jake and Hopes' brother"
NiteCh After Dark Spark " brother to Fiddle"
NiteCh Morgan's Boone " sister to Fiddle"
NiteCh High Water June " out of Reckon"
NiteCh Sawblade Timberline Rusty
Sawblade Ribbon,


They are bred with heart and drive included.

From a small kennel with Big results.

There have only been 4 PKC GOLD CHAMPION redbones ever. Thats 10k plus in winnings....The first was almost 20 years ago...and the last 3 have earned that title in the last 2 years.....so what's changed?
Sometimes people don't see the changes as they are happening....but can only see them years later when reflecting back. Maybe it's just me...but I think the breed is producing better and better competition dogs. Maybe not better on an individual basis...but maybe more of them in higher percentages.

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Shane Maxey
Proud lifetime member of the NRA
Banshee Wildlife Products
Hoosier Outlaw / Moonlight Redbones
1994 American Redbone Coonhound Association Hunter of the Year
My first 3 redbones raised from pup's were:
Dual Gr.Ch. Outlaw Billy the Kid
Dual Gr.Ch.- PKC Ch. Outlaw Timber Girl
Dual Gr.Ch. Outlaw Scarlett Fever
(((( Current Favorites ))))
2013 AKC Ladies World Champion
Gr.Nt.Ch.- PKC Ch- AKC Ladies World Ch Ky Moonlight Breanna
Gr.Nt.Ch. - PKC Ch. Ky Moonlight Woody
Dual Grand Moonlight Deana
Dual Grand Ch.- PKC Ch. Moonlight AfterShock
Dual Grand Nighty Night Amber
Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Big Time Britt
Gr.Nt.Ch Outlaw Billy Jean
Gr.Nt.Ch-PKC Ch.-2015 PKC Red Days Champ Outlaw Cherry Bomb
Gr.Nt.Ch Outlaw Breeze
Gr.Nt.Ch.Gr.Ch. All Grand Outlaw G-Man (over $20.000 won in PKC & CHKC) 2019 Southern Redbone Days Overall Champion
Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Outlaw Mac
Gr.Nt.Ch. Classy Cali (Heavy Outlaw bred)
Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Cat Scratch Fever
Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Addiction
Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Overdose
Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Jinx
Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Banshee
"Always outnumbered...Never outgunned!"
To enjoy lots of pics and videos of out redbones, find me on Facebook
as Shenandoah Maxey

Agree

I have went through several over the years. All to find out they didn't have it to begin with. Or they would run and tree just fine solo. Then add other strange dogs to the hunt and find out that I have a strange dog. Wouldn't hunt. Socially backward. I can say in the past 4 years I have started 3 different young dogs that I had nothing to do with the breeding. Just bought the Pup. All of them ran and treed Coons solo before a year old. I don't live in thick coon country. These were not turn loose coons. Dogs free cast from truck solo. Strike, track and tree. Those who are breeding dogs and mixing up these lines are doing something right. Congrats and Thank you. I also think that it takes the right person owning a dog who has the passion and deep pockets to accomplish some of winning that is being done. Which also deserves a Congrats. I like the change and looking my forward to 2017 with A&W'S Rough Cut Hope. ( Boone X Backwoods Annie ). Good Luck to everybody in 2017.

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I now I'm doing a fair amount of winning with the red dogs the past few years and more and more I'm hearing at the end of the cast from guys hunting other breeds exspecially walkers "do u know where I can get a nice bread red pup" an get calls all the time from people looking for red dogs so I would definantly say that the breed is making a impact in the hunts very strongly now verses 18 years ago when I started. use to be I would be the only red dog at a hunt or my dad or uncle. now their is more an more showing up.