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Posted by Richard Lambert on 03-20-2016 02:57 PM:

Pepper Power

Has no one ever crossed a Rocker female with Jet or a Jet female with Rocker? I would think that would be a cross just waiting to happen but I don't remember it having ever been done. I don't understand why. Surely there are some very nice females out there in Redbone Land out of Jet and Rocker. Maybe I am the only one that thinks that it would be a good idea.

Posted by JShelton on 03-20-2016 03:57 PM:

Whatever happened to jet?

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Posted by mmarshall on 03-20-2016 04:23 PM:

That would be to much Kate its been made pretty clear to much Kate is not a good thing
So I'd find something with pepper and no Kate to cross on burning pepper jet and rockers

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Posted by Hoosier Outlaw on 03-20-2016 05:59 PM:

Too much Kate is not good...
Danny once bred a sone of Kate x Doc to a daughter of Kate x Ace and the results were pretty common....Gr.Nt.Ch.-PKC Ch-2013 AKC Ladies World Champion Ky Moonlight Breanna, Gr.Nt.Ch.-PKC Ch.-2011 SRD Champion Moonlight Big Time Britt, Nt Ch. Double Moon Kate

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Posted by Brian Jennewein on 03-20-2016 06:19 PM:

Who has females out of Jet?Jet seems to be in the Bermuda triangle in Kentucky with Chicken Foot.Rocker is still putting big litters on the ground and still reproducing winners.

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Posted by mmarshall on 03-20-2016 06:40 PM:

We got three all are triple Kate though
Uncle Fred has one but it's double Kate and Luke has its litter mate both are litter mates to fuzzes ridge pup that he's winning with
Think wade has one off heat
Couple good ones in pa but again double Kate out of hersh female

Posted by Brian Jennewein on 03-20-2016 06:50 PM:

I think the subject was crossing jet and rocker,not how many times Kate is in there.If anyone has a jet female and wants to give it a shot we can do it.

Posted by Hoosier Outlaw on 03-20-2016 06:55 PM:

Danny Biggert has Trip who is out of Jet x Ky Moonlight Breanna...she need two wins to make Grand Nite Champion.
Doc and Tony have Pistol who is out of Jet x Ky Moonlight Breanna and she is a Nt.Ch.
Danny Biggert also has a male out of Jet x Ky Moonlight Kate they call the secret weapon who is just a year old but will be leading the performance point list for redbones at the next update with back to back wins the past past two weekends.
Last I heard jet was in Ky but when I had him here and hunted him we got semen collected and stored at Nevergone so people can breed to it or it can be shipped anywhere in the country.
Jet was a good match for Breanna and Ky Kate because being out of Moonlight Kate and having a style similar to Kate and many of the dogs out of her we felt like that would carry through and lock that style into the offspring. it appears to have worked as Trip and Pistol are carbon copies of Breanna and the secret weapon is a lot like his mother Ky Kate and his half brother Moonlight Outlaw Mac.
Jet hasn't been bred much but he lead the performance points sire list last year and may do it again this year. We will probably make a few other line bred crosses on him in the future with our double and triple Moonlight Kate females to further lock in those characteristics that are common to this Moonlight line of dogs.

Posted by mmarshall on 03-20-2016 07:15 PM:

You are the one who said you can have to much Kate on other thread
I was just letting you know what was out there and how they was bred (most like to know)jet was here when most of the crosses on him was made just trying to help

Posted by Brian Jennewein on 03-20-2016 07:27 PM:

Thanks for the info. We are fans of what old Pepper and Little Pepper reproduced and you guys are fans of what Kate and Billy reproduced.Everyone has their taste in what they like.Just happens these lines crossed have produced the best competition style red dogs out there today.Jet and rocker crossed could be very interesting.

Posted by mmarshall on 03-20-2016 07:56 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Brian Jennewein
Thanks for the info. We are fans of what old Pepper and Little Pepper reproduced and you guys are fans of what Kate and Billy reproduced.Everyone has their taste in what they like.Just happens these lines crossed have produced the best competition style red dogs out there today.Jet and rocker crossed could be very interesting.

You are correct they are competition style dogs both lines together there special and we are competitive owners and handlers
but the horse crap that goes on on here needs to stop there is no call for the bashing of dogs men and lines on here or elese where if that would stop I think some very good things could happen but as long as it continues we will never know to the full extent
I truly believe there is one that is trying to keep it from happening
Good luck

Posted by Jack Bingham on 03-21-2016 12:56 AM:

Tony told me last week if they don't sell pistol he'd like to breed her to Moonshine. We'll have to wait and see if that happens.

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Posted by ahallada on 03-21-2016 04:17 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Jack Bingham
Tony told me last week if they don't sell pistol he'd like to breed her to Moonshine. We'll have to wait and see if that happens.

I'd never breed someone's throw away to a quality dog like Moonshine!

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Posted by Jack Bingham on 03-21-2016 04:45 AM:

LOL some just won't let it go.

Posted by mmarshall on 03-21-2016 12:22 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Jack Bingham
LOL some just won't let it go.

Wasn't you or your dogs being drug though the coals the last year might take some longer to let it go

Posted by Richard Lambert on 03-21-2016 02:36 PM:

Oh my goodness... I guess thast answers my question as to why these two lines have never been crossed. Doesn't anyone besides these warring factions own a nice female out of Jet or Rocker? Shane, who owns the Jet frozen semen.

Posted by Jack Bingham on 03-21-2016 05:16 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by mmarshall
Wasn't you or your dogs being drug though the coals the last year might take some longer to let it go

Time to move on. Or keep bringing it up and it ain't never gonna rest.

Posted by Richard Lambert on 03-21-2016 06:04 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by mmarshall
...... being drug though the coals....

Oh my goodness, that must have hurt pretty bad. It sounds like it left some pretty deep scars.

Posted by Hoosier Outlaw on 03-21-2016 06:17 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Oh my goodness... I guess thast answers my question as to why these two lines have never been crossed. Doesn't anyone besides these warring factions own a nice female out of Jet or Rocker? Shane, who owns the Jet frozen semen.

Dutch Harvey jr owns some...and I think Ron Swann and others may also have some stored on him.

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