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Posted by rdmedders on 02-12-2016 01:46 PM:

Feeding dogs.

Pros and cons on using a automatic feeder?
Thanks for your input.

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Posted by MR.RATMAN on 02-12-2016 02:05 PM:

I use one and at first the dogs eat like pigs but after a few days they went to eating normal. I got mine just to keep food dry from rain and snow

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Posted by hillbilly56 on 02-12-2016 06:48 PM:

i really don't like the self feeders most dog's get way to fat on them jmo i like to feed my dog's myself that way i can tell if thier eating right or have any issues

Posted by KYHoundDawg on 02-12-2016 06:56 PM:

I think for regular dogs great but for hunting dogs it's not the best idea. Might be ok in the off season if you don't run them but then you run the risk of them becoming over weight. You don't want to let them eat before you hunt obviously so if they have food constantly then you will not know when they last ate and run the risk of a flipped stomach.

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Posted by Doug Robinson on 02-12-2016 07:09 PM:

Feeders

I figure its the lazy mans way of feeding! And if you do research there should be a good length of time between feeding and extensive exercise. But I would bet that if a man is too lazy to feed his dogs daily he probably is too lazy to exercise them regularly. Plus having a full feeder the bugs and mice can get into it. I never understood but have seen guys feed there dog just prior to a hunt...and watch those same dogs suckin wind and hitting the creeks for extra water all nite long! Seen dogs throw up feed in the box because they were fed before hauling. Im sure not everybody agrees Im gonna hear excuses but that's my opinion and experience feeding dogs for 50 yrs+.

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Posted by J I Allen on 02-12-2016 07:31 PM:

Back in the 70's I used a self feeder for my beagles. What I found out about them was any adult dog you put on a feeder even after they had got use to having feed all the time tended to stay a little on the heavy side but not that much. When hunted hard they ate more but seemed to stay the same as far as weight, just noticed I needed to fill the feeder more often. If I started puppies on the feeder from the time they were weaned they never put on as much weight as the dogs that were put on the feeder after they were grown. I liked the self feeders but I think they work better if you start your dog on them as puppies. Just my 2 cents worth.

Posted by hillbilly56 on 02-12-2016 08:07 PM:

Re: Feeders

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Originally posted by Doug Robinson
I figure its the lazy mans way of feeding! And if you do research there should be a good length of time between feeding and extensive exercise. But I would bet that if a man is too lazy to feed his dogs daily he probably is too lazy to exercise them regularly. Plus having a full feeder the bugs and mice can get into it. I never understood but have seen guys feed there dog just prior to a hunt...and watch those same dogs suckin wind and hitting the creeks for extra water all nite long! Seen dogs throw up feed in the box because they were fed before hauling. Im sure not everybody agrees Im gonna hear excuses but that's my opinion and experience feeding dogs for 50 yrs+.

x2 i agree with ya on the self feeders as posted i like to see how my dog's eat and act on a daily basis

Posted by GA DAWG on 02-12-2016 08:28 PM:

Re: Re: Feeders

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Originally posted by hillbilly56
x2 i agree with ya on the self feeders as posted i like to see how my dog's eat and act on a daily basis

If I put out auto feeders. I could see myself going a day or so and not checking them. Maybe everybody aint like that. I am. Id get lazy. I like to pet on mine and talk to em every day.

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Posted by MR.RATMAN on 02-12-2016 08:58 PM:

Nothing to do with lazy you still have to go water a dog every day. Like I said it keeps the food out of rain and snow. My dog just picks at his food during the day and will eat more after a hunt.

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Posted by bronco on 02-12-2016 09:30 PM:

I've used feeders for 20 years...deer dogs and coon dogs. Just got to use good food and they wont get fat. The food is there for the dog 24/7 and they eat a little at a time. So, how do people think that a dog will have stomach issues Or affects there hunting...because they're on a feeder?? It's not like they gorge themselve right before they go hunting.

Posted by Doug Robinson on 02-13-2016 03:44 AM:

Feeders

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Originally posted by bronco
I've used feeders for 20 years...deer dogs and coon dogs. Just got to use good food and they wont get fat. The food is there for the dog 24/7 and they eat a little at a time. So, how do people think that a dog will have stomach issues Or affects there hunting...because they're on a feeder?? It's not like they gorge themselve right before they go hunting.

How do you know how much a dog has eaten from the feeder just before you hunt them if you are not regulating them? Based on scientific evidence just think how much better those deer and coon dogs would have performed if you had withheld food for several hrs before hunting. I base my knowledge on the fact I had run competition for many yrs in college and I have also witnessed my buddies dogs lethargy and numerous dumps in the field when on a feeder or fed just prior to hunting. Id like to see you eat a couple cheeseburgers than go run ten miles right after.

Every dog is different but most agree a dog on a feeder is heavier and dumps more. Here is some good info to go by from the Purina research:

Helping dogs achieve an optimal performance involves more than feeding a quality performance dog food. Nutritional do's and don'ts come from experience and learning from experts. Here are some considerations when feeding a hardworking dog.

• Do not feed a hardworking dog before exercise. Complete digestion takes from 20 to 24 hours. Dogs fed less than 23 hours before exercise could have fecal matter in the colon that could compromise their performance by adding extra weight. Additionally, exercise alters the gastrointestinal transit time and can change nutrient digestion and absorption, resulting in a decrease of oxygen in the gut.

Generally, performance dogs should be fed a minimum of 10 to 12 hours before exercise. It is best to feed the night before a trial that is scheduled the next day. When dogs are fed six hours or sooner before exercise, even small amounts, the body's fat burning enzymes are not optimized, which contributes to reduced endurance and energy generation. Studies have shown that endurance performance can be as much as doubled when dogs run on an empty stomach compared to having eaten four or less hours before exercise."

Never feed dogs the morning of a field trial or hunt. Try to feed 24 hours before they are scheduled to compete. This allows time for them to digest the food and for the nutrients to be available to their bodies for work."

Like I said many people have their own opinion but mine is people who put dogs on feeders are either lazy or just lack knowledge. Try it and see for yourself.

Posted by Doug Robinson on 02-13-2016 03:57 AM:

Re: Re: Re: Feeders

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Originally posted by GA DAWG
If I put out auto feeders. I could see myself going a day or so and not checking them. Maybe everybody aint like that. I am. Id get lazy. I like to pet on mine and talk to em every day.

Michael I agree I like to see and touch my dogs everyday to see whats going on. I have seen other kennels where dogs are on feeders the guy fills weekly and 5 gallon drywall water buckets they fill weekly that turn green with algae all summer. I am feeding 5 dogs right now and all 5 get different amounts based on age, weight and and general condition. If a dog is gaining weight or not keeping it on I adjust. I absolutely never had a dog that picked at his food in 50 years if your dog is picking at its food its either crappy food or the dog is getting too much! Following a routine and monitoring what your dog eats will keep a healthy balance.

Posted by Travis Brown on 02-13-2016 04:31 PM:

I like to use a self feeder for puppies from weaning age to about seven months old. I prefer to feed my grown dogs once a day, after the hunt. I have seen some use it on older dogs without problems but most dogs will get fat on self feeders, especially females that have been bred before.

I also like to put a female on a self feeder the last two weeks before she has pups and while the pups are nursing.

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Posted by joey on 02-13-2016 05:11 PM:

I want to know how much my dog is eating. Most of all I hate a dog that just kind of nibbles on their food all day. When I drive off to a hunt they need to eat when I feed them. There are a couple of things that makes a difference in a dog that looks like a world ch at home but falls apart on the road. They cant stress out on the road and they have to eat when you feed them.

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Posted by GA DAWG on 02-13-2016 05:43 PM:

I have one that barks a lot. Hes a fool but a coon treer. Im thinking bout putting a feeder in with him to see if it helps his barking. Im sure it may not but it might. I think he barks every time he hears us outside cause he thinks Im coming to feed.

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Posted by mr taylor on 02-14-2016 12:57 AM:

i have never liked auto feeders all though i guess they have their place , when i worked out of town i had all my dogs on auto feeders and auto waters both and just had some one to come by and check on the dogs from time to time , i have had dogs to dig all the feed out at onetime and i have had them to piss in the feeder and rats will cause problems to and most dogs will gorge their self on the feeders even after several months , i like to feed dogs the same amount as close to the same time each day and it seems to work better for me and with the price of dog feed now i don't no if i could afford to use auto feeders back when i used them you could buy 2 or 3 bags for what it is going for today ..

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