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Out cross for Smokey River Hounds

I have studied the Smokey River lines since the late 60's.
Smokey River was more of a kennel name until Diamond Jim came along, and that changed everything. The crosses that worked best on Diamond Jim were made to the females out of Earl Hills Ark. Blue. He was mostly Vaughn bred. Mt. Music Blue went back to JV, and Vaughn breeding. I think some of the Smokey River hounds have lost size, and nose, so to put that back in the D.J. line, what would you out cross to??? The crosses that made history were on females from Vaughn breeding, so that is what I am going to do. I managed to get some hounds that are Smokey River, and Vaughn bred. Old Vaughn is hard to find, but a few people have preserved it. When you look at all major strains of blue hounds, if you go back far enough, you can trace them to Vaughn breeding. I have lots of old, old bluebooks, and I have studied the bloodlines for a lone time, esp Smokey River. If you want to produce hounds with nose, voice, looks, size, and heart why not get back to the basics, and go back to the original well??

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Jhn. 3:30, "He must increase, but I must decrease."

When you study old bloodlines, remember, you could change a dogs name back then, no matter how many times he/she was bred. You have to look at the reg. numbers because many of the hounds had different names from one set of papers to another, but were actually the same dogs. A lot of people think they are different hounds because they had different names, when in reality they were the same hounds with different names. It has caused a lot of confusion over the years. I am glad UKC will not allow a name change once a dog has been bred. This policy change eliminates any confusion.

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Phone (336) 648-3210

Home of Mayberry Blueticks
Jhn. 3:30, "He must increase, but I must decrease."

I've had gd luck smokey river and jet/hammer but have saw Alot of nice hounds off smokey river and uchtman.my 2 cents

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Coty Strannahan

THANKS--now i know why I have been so blessed
been hunting SMOKEY RIVER with a little VAUGHN
for 49 years with hounds that please us

S.R. x Vaughn:

I believe that's a good way to go. Buzz Anderson and Guy Orminston recommended this to me in the winter of '01. I really like Buzz Anderson x S.R. Chief's Dancer lines. If you hide hunt you will like them. They do good on bear also. If you competition hunt, you may not like them. Those I have hunted with were open mouth,cold nosed,good hunters and strike dogs. They have loud mouths and are good natured and some of them were sit-down tree dogs. They also showed a lot of determination to catch game. Where I live and hunt,coon aren't plentiful and these hounds work well for me. Go for it Mr.Edwards !

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Purgatory Blueticks A-top of the Eastern Divide in the Blue Ridge Mtns.

Elbert Vaughn has been gone for a very long time,gentlemen.

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Aren't all blueticks ancesters of Vaughn bred dogs?

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Originally posted by DENNIS SHEPHERD
THANKS--now i know why I have been so blessed
been hunting SMOKEY RIVER with a little VAUGHN
for 19 years with hounds that please us

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Phone (336) 648-3210

Home of Mayberry Blueticks
Jhn. 3:30, "He must increase, but I must decrease."

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Originally posted by John Carroll
Elbert Vaughn has been gone for a very long time,gentlemen.

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Home of Mayberry Blueticks
Jhn. 3:30, "He must increase, but I must decrease."

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Originally posted by Craig Edwards
That's the truth. I had the opportunity to talk with him days before he died. It shocked everyone when he passed away. The old Vaughn blood is hard to find, but a few men have kept it around.

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