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Posted by AppalachianBlue on 11-22-2015 04:20 PM:

Deer rut and dogs

Is it possible to have a dog that has proven they don't chase deer time and again, to only run 800 yard track in almost straight track bawlin do a little circle and come back. Just so happen its durin the rut. Solely just cause it is the rut? More scents, hormones and all.

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Posted by hillbilly56 on 11-22-2015 04:26 PM:

even though bucks are ruttin and have a stronger scent now if a hound has never run a deer shouldn't run 1 now if it's a young gamey hound could happen jmo

Posted by AppalachianBlue on 11-22-2015 04:32 PM:

He's 14 months old. But iv had deer I could see within 30 yards of him and he's done his own thing. More than once. In the woods and open corn field.

Posted by AppalachianBlue on 11-22-2015 04:37 PM:

And he aint never treed on anything that hasent been a coon or a legitimate den tree.

Posted by hillbilly56 on 11-22-2015 04:38 PM:

could be he may be bumpin a gray fox they will run a circle like a rabbitt only a bigger circle

Posted by AppalachianBlue on 11-22-2015 04:41 PM:

Was a 40 yd circle.

Posted by shadinc on 11-22-2015 05:00 PM:

Is it possible? I've been hunting hounds for about 58 years and I think it's possible for any hound of any age to do anything at any time.

Posted by hillbilly56 on 11-22-2015 05:02 PM:

really hard to say excatly what it was without really seeing what he was running those kinda tracks can puzzleling

Posted by JiM on 11-22-2015 05:03 PM:

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Is it possible? I've been hunting hounds for about 58 years and I think it's possible for any hound of any age to do anything at any time.

There yah go. Never say never when you are talking about a dog.

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Posted by mr taylor on 11-22-2015 05:29 PM:

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There yah go. Never say never when you are talking about a dog.

you both are right ..
this time of year ole cloven hoof is not at all their sences and may walk up and not run from a dog and sometimes will provoke a dog into running them ..

Posted by hillbilly56 on 11-22-2015 05:45 PM:

our deer season starts monday and don't go out till december i won't hunt my young dog till the last day i try not to put a young dog in a bad postion but that's just me

Posted by JiM on 11-22-2015 05:51 PM:

I have seen some absolutely crazy interactions between dogs and deer and it has always involved does instead of bucks.

Posted by H Stonesifer on 11-23-2015 12:18 AM:

Here my best advice Kenny.Put that young pup in the pen till after rifle season.To many deer guts and wounded shot up deer to run.That blood will not help any young dog at all and the next thing will be eating every gut pile in the woods.

Posted by tony.beals on 11-23-2015 01:08 AM:

Rut & Bucks

One possibility, a buck in rut messing with your dog, Had a dog tree on a side of woods with a fence, dog was acting funny treeing, when I rounded corner of woods and walked up a big 10 point buck chasing dog back and forth across fence while he was trying to tree. I have never seen or heard of this happening before and probably would not believe it unless I seen it with my own two eyes. Had a hard time deciding which to shoot buck or coon . Alas shot the coon, it was a nice 10 point

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Posted by ov_blues on 11-23-2015 01:36 AM:

Had a male dog several years ago that was a coon dog and straight other than when bucks were rutting. Then he would bump some tracks a 100 or 200 yards for about two weeks out of the year.

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Posted by bowling41762 on 11-23-2015 02:57 PM:

I got a young dog that runs deer a little. They circle a bit then head out. My dog has a completely different bark when he's running a deer. I can tell exactly when he opens on a deer then know the exact moment when he switches over. I really enjoy listening to a red hot deer race. When he runs one it's not if he is gonna switch over, it's just where he's gonna be when he switches over. He's only about 50-60% accurate most of time, but when he pulls those switch over jobs he's near 90%. And always alone. If you got big woods to hunt and dog will switch over there hard to beat. Accurate and almost always alone. Personally I love a dog that does this as long as he likes a coon a bit more than the deer.

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Posted by AppalachianBlue on 11-23-2015 03:08 PM:

O he loves to get him a coon and has only ever treed coon. Seen him jump beded deer and still do his own thing and tree coon. But the other night I cut him and he bawled took the heck off. Bawled and bawled for 800 yds or so In almost straight line. Did a 40 yd circle and came back quiet. Thing is, right where we cut him I jumped a buck and it took off the other direction. I mean complete opposite direction. I figured well he don't run deer so hel be alright. Then he did that the opposite direction where that buck went.

Posted by steve pickett on 11-23-2015 03:31 PM:

rutting deer, is a bad time to hunt a dog they may run deer,when otherwise would not run them especially a young dog.this is my experience hard enough on older dogs....

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Posted by ov_blues on 11-23-2015 04:51 PM:

If the dog isn't running them far I just consider it extra tracking experience for a young dog. I wouldn't get too worked up over it and correct th dog without being brutal, shoot some coon out to it, and all should be well. If he's only doing it this time of year and only 400 yards then he isn't bad on deer and should be easily broke with today's equipment. Back in th day a deer bumper was almost harder to completely break than a deer runner. You could eventually cut off that deer runner and give him/her some real discipline. The deer bumper was hard to catch in the act.

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