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Posted by richard boyd on 11-01-2015 03:52 PM:

Thermal vision

Have any of y'all ever tried thermal vision to find coons in the trees you treed on? Just wondering how well it works or don't work.Thanks in advance.


Posted by Jrkb2012 on 11-01-2015 06:39 PM:

I've never used one,but I've seen on here where a few fellas have,,I would think those would be the best thing a person could use,,it's gotta let you know if the meat is there,,or not,,whether the leafs are on or off,,wish I could afford one,,cause I wouldn't go to the woods without it,,jmo


Posted by Terry Dye on 11-01-2015 06:47 PM:

A couple weeks ago, my brother in law went along with me on a hunt. He brought along his thermal scope that he uses to shoot hogs out of his pecan orchard. Trees were heavy with leaves but 3 out of 4 trees we were able to find coons that we had pretty much given up on with headlights. 4th tree was easily found with our headlights. As a bonus, I was able to watch my 2 dogs and how they reacted to a doe and fawn that were bedded as we hunted towards them. These deer never really paid much atttention to dogs untill they got within 30-40yds and then only stood and trotted 70yds and rebedded. Pretty neat to watch without the aid of a light. The only downfall of infrared ,besides the price, is that leaves give a white signature also, making it not always easy to find the coon.


Posted by Greg Burks on 11-01-2015 07:25 PM:

When the leaves are on is when you really need it, but it's hot weather also and the trees hold alot of heat through the night making it difficult to find the coon...


Posted by J.Fox on 11-01-2015 08:51 PM:

I have been using one for probably 10 years. You will know what your hound is doing pretty quick. Great tool for training and knowing where your hound is slicking or not.

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Posted by msinc on 11-01-2015 08:52 PM:

I have a FLIR thermal weapon sight. I have taken it coon hunting several times and if he's there it will find him. Thermal devices see "differences" in heat. The hottest in temperature object will show up as either white or black, depending on how you have the scope set. It doesn't take a lot of temperature difference to contrast. It will not look as good or be as easy in the dead middle of the hot summer down south. It would probably work as good year around in cooler locations up north.
What it wont do is look thru a hollow tree. One other problem is that when it is cold out you will see a big white blob of heat. You will know something alive is there, but with the thermal device alone you wont be able to tell a coon from a cat or possum. The biggest thing about it is that you will know where to look with a regular light.
Today I got to see/use one of those little $300.00 add ons for a smart phone...I would have to say that you are not going to find too many coons with it or maybe a better way of saying it is you will not be very decisive with it. Bottom line, the big ones that work, work great and cost great too...the little $200-300 smart phone add-ons wont do for what we are trying to accomplish.
The one I have has a memory and will do snapshots...I will take it along next time and get some photos to post with the thermal and looking at the coon with a regular light so everyone can see.


Posted by richard boyd on 11-02-2015 12:11 AM:

Thanks for all the input. I was thinking about getting one and trying it. My eyes aren't what they used to be even with these new LED lights.


Posted by Greg Burks on 11-02-2015 12:15 AM:

Could it be used in a nite hunt... or would that give you an unfair advantage?


Posted by high ridge on 11-02-2015 12:51 AM:

A guy on cast at Labor Day Classic had one. Cost $1800. It would def find coons then we used our lights to verify. He said in summer it great but in winter trees held heat and had you looking at blank spots. Also he said if look up in den it always showed heat. It was a very neat tool. I can see where it would pay off.

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Posted by msinc on 11-02-2015 01:05 AM:

I don't know about the rest of the kennel clubs, but you cannot use them in a UKC nite hunt at all.


Posted by legend on 11-02-2015 03:05 AM:

gosh I wonder why.


Posted by Terry Dye on 11-02-2015 12:38 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by legend
gosh I wonder why.



The only reason I can think of is that the truth hurts too much sometimes ! How many guys would show up to hunt if they knew they couldn't circle on a slick tree ????????


Posted by msinc on 11-02-2015 01:58 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Terry Dye
The only reason I can think of is that the truth hurts too much sometimes ! How many guys would show up to hunt if they knew they couldn't circle on a slick tree ????????


But can't the truth cut both ways?????...all them slick treeing Walkers might not end up being quite so slick anymore when finally coupled with a device to prove them right. I know I would show up just to see which way it went!!!!!!!
I have never believed, like most, that just because a dog trees up a 125 ft tall poplar in the summer, 90% of which you cant see anyway, is automatically slick.
The naysayers would have to go back to the old ran a deer and switched off theory, like they used back in the day. How did they used to say it??? "Fell off on a coon!!"


Posted by Greg Burks on 11-02-2015 04:25 PM:

Seems it would do away with alot of circle points, they would become plus or minus...


Posted by shadinc on 11-02-2015 04:43 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Greg Burks
Seems it would do away with alot of circle points, they would become plus or minus...
Only if every cast had one.


Posted by ahallada on 11-02-2015 05:11 PM:

I have the newest IOS version of the Flir for iPhone I received 2 weeks ago. I've had it in the woods a few times and it hasn't worked for finding coon in the trees with leaves. I can see the dogs great at the base of the tree but nothing in the trees.

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Posted by msinc on 11-02-2015 05:46 PM:

I cant believe nobody didn't jump on here and say, "that's because you are hunting redbones!!!!" Yep, the one I tried this past weekend wouldn't do it either. It was pretty good at following a blood trail of a deer if it didn't have too much of a lead on you.


Posted by J.Fox on 11-02-2015 05:53 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by ahallada
I have the newest IOS version of the Flir for iPhone I received 2 weeks ago. I've had it in the woods a few times and it hasn't worked for finding coon in the trees with leaves. I can see the dogs great at the base of the tree but nothing in the trees.



Then apps don't work. I bought mine from ATN. They build all night vision for the military. There going to cost around $3,000 + for a good one but they have a lifetime warranty and I have abused mine for 10 years now.

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Posted by richard boyd on 11-02-2015 07:52 PM:

I thank it would be cool to try it. But I'M afraid I might would want to shot my dogs.LOL As far as every cast having one you could do it like a random drug test that way they will not know who has it until its to late..


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