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Posted by Countryboy053 on 08-18-2015 09:14 PM:

Walker pup help

I've got about a 17 month old walker male. He's out of witch doctor. When I take him out he runs like hell for a bit but won't ever strike. I've shown him two caged coons and he goes absolutely nuts and won't let me pull him off. I've turned both of them loose and he treed them about as well as one could expect.
If We are out Huntin he will run for close to a hour and then just put himself back in his box.
I've tried runnin him with other dogs but he won't run with any at all.
Anyone got some advise?


Posted by shadinc on 08-18-2015 09:19 PM:

I would try feeders. Dump him on a few hot tracks.


Posted by gasserdogs on 08-18-2015 09:20 PM:

young dog

shut the door on the box so he cant get in.lol he will keep hunting till he comes across a good hot one . or send him up north for 60 days in heavy coon population call me a 419 569 7162 if interested in sending him north

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Posted by Countryboy053 on 08-19-2015 04:31 AM:

Well I took him to a lot tonight to get him on some feeders. About 9 o'clock I shined a feder and seen two coons. Took him down and turned him lose he ran 10 yards in the woods. Right were the coons had been. Stopped turned and ran back to the truck had the tailgate up and he jumped up on top of the dog box.
Fought with him like that till 10:30 when I finally gave up on him


Posted by kordog on 08-19-2015 12:13 PM:

you ever shock this dog ?or has it had a bad experience some dogs it screws all up they are so tepramental.this dog has mental blocks and is shutting down sounds like ,and maybe a little laziness going on.if they dont have confidence and drive at 17months i would ask myself why i am hunting this dog?you could try dragging a dead one behind the truck or four wheeler to see if that encourages it .good dogs can throw culls so just because he is out of a certain dog doesnt mean squat.


Posted by Countryboy053 on 08-19-2015 12:26 PM:

I have shocked him maybe 3 times to get him to come too me when we first started runnin him. At first he would never come back he would run for hours and stay at least 100 yards out. Now he won't do a dang thing


Posted by Countryboy053 on 08-19-2015 01:22 PM:

He also had a Black and Tan get ill towards him about 2 months ago now that I think about it.
Is there anyway to bring the hunt out of him and get his mental blocks out of the way or just a lost cause


Posted by dchartt on 08-19-2015 02:12 PM:

Sounds like he had the hunt and you took it out

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Posted by Countryboy053 on 08-19-2015 02:38 PM:

I wouldn't shock him unless he was gettin to the roads. So I'd just call him back.


Posted by gasserdogs on 08-19-2015 02:45 PM:

dont hunt him with a shock collar he has gotten collar smart on you let what happens happen. people will ruin a dog quicker with a shocker because of not knowing how to properly use it. then they wonder why the dog is the way he is. take shocking collar off and start all over again.

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Posted by Countryboy053 on 08-19-2015 02:47 PM:

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Originally posted by gasserdogs
dont hunt him with a shock collar he has gotten collar smart on you let what happens happen. people will ruin a dog quicker with a shocker because of not knowing how to properly use it. then they wonder why the dog is the way he is. take shocking collar off and start all over again.


I was thinking of trying that tonight and see what happens


Posted by Countryboy053 on 08-20-2015 03:29 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by gasserdogs
dont hunt him with a shock collar he has gotten collar smart on you let what happens happen. people will ruin a dog quicker with a shocker because of not knowing how to properly use it. then they wonder why the dog is the way he is. take shocking collar off and start all over again.


Well taking the shock collar off helped. It took him about 15 min to get out and hunt. But he finally took off. He stuck a few times. And stayed out a couple hundred yards the whole time. So I'll just have to keep that collar off him and work him


Posted by gasserdogs on 08-20-2015 04:35 AM:

yea he should get better as long as you hunt him hard right now without it. most dogs got a good built in honing device ( called there nose ) they will find you. let him hunt till he comes back without any influence. or catch him at tree. i prefer to pull mine off of tree period. good luck !!

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Posted by kordog on 08-20-2015 03:48 PM:

a shocking collar is a great tool ,but is deffinately not the answer for every dog in every situation.good luck.


Posted by gasserdogs on 08-20-2015 03:59 PM:

well said!! kordog

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Posted by Countryboy053 on 08-26-2015 12:37 AM:

Like a new hound

He has blown my mind these past few nights.
With that collar off he is finally clicking.
Hunted on Saturday and he was non stop. He struck about 12 times on the night and finished the track out 7 times.
We'd get back to the truck he'd take him a drink and he'd take off like a rocket he'd hot the woods and 5 min later he was striking in again.
He'd pull off the tree but just lack of confidence yet. He got better as the night went.
A few more nights like that, and once kill season opens and he gets his mouth on one I believe I won't be able to pull him off a tree.

I sure as heck can't believe the difference on how he hunts without that shocker.

Thanks yall for all the advise and input!


Posted by Countryboy053 on 08-26-2015 12:51 AM:





Posted by gasserdogs on 08-26-2015 01:43 AM:

glad to hear you didnt give up on him. a good season should do him wonders. keep him in the woods!

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Posted by gasserdogs on 08-26-2015 01:50 AM:

still training dogs up north. i have one spot open for sept i can show him more coon in thirty days than he will see in a season down south. all wild coon situations no feeders or buckets .call me at 419 569 7162 . if interested.

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Posted by Joe Lueke on 08-26-2015 10:22 PM:

Countryboy, please send this young dog to Ohio to Mr. Hickman and throw away your shocking collar !!!! Thanks

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