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Posted by Jason Baldwin on 07-23-2015 06:29 AM:

which style are you ?

I'm noticing something with coon hunting the last 5 or 6 years that's getting more and more and more common. Coon hunting is a setup where one guy owns the dogs ( usually many dogs) and he doesn't even actually coon hunt at all . This guy is the owner and sponser and he pays for everything, entry fees, dog food, boots , lights , everything. Then he has guys that actually take the dogs hunting for him. These guys do not own the dogs. They just hunt the dogs. I wonder if folks like me that just own one or two dogs and hunt them themselves is becoming the minority ? Which category are you ?

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Posted by nitehunter2004 on 07-23-2015 07:10 AM:

Both.

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Posted by ole hoss on 07-23-2015 08:31 AM:

I keep 1 dog of my own and the rest belong to other people. I keep no more than
4 dogs at a time. I usually keep one from super stakes till super stakes that belong to somebody that pays the way. Monthly fee, gas, entry, hotel would like to find that 1guy with 2-3 nice dogs that wants to hit the road. I do this cause running up and down the road cost money weather your winning or loosening.

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Posted by amazingcursouth on 07-23-2015 11:57 AM:

I own Treeing Curs which I coon and squirrel hunt with. But I have had the pleasure of handling some nice dogs for some guys over the last few years. I am probably the get them tuned up and get a few cast wins type of handler. I love getting a dog clicking. Mr. Tim Osborne is a jam up guy to handle for.

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Posted by joey on 07-23-2015 05:56 PM:

I have been paid to run up and down the road and hunt other peoples dogs. They provided everything but it just didn't do much for me. I haven't done it in several years. I own and hunt my own stuff now, but no Jason we are not even close to the minority and it isn't a new fad. Its been that way since I started in the hunts in the 80's a little more prevalent now but its always been happening.

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Posted by mike shannon on 07-23-2015 10:14 PM:

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Posted by JiM on 07-23-2015 10:48 PM:

Jason, who do you know that owns dogs, hires handlers and doesn't hunt at all? Name someone. Bet you can't.

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Posted by joey on 07-23-2015 10:55 PM:

I know some who because of age or disability cant follow them anymore but they cant help that. I use to hunt for Buddy Gilbert many years ago. Buddy loved it as much or more than anyone. He just couldn't walk in the woods anymore.

Posted by Jason Baldwin on 07-23-2015 11:29 PM:

Ive never done the partnership owner thing either. How do yall deal with problems and issues that come up ? No way they can agree on everything and are friendships lost over it ?

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Posted by nitehunter2004 on 07-23-2015 11:50 PM:

A partnership should always be 49/51% never partner with anyone that can't separate business from friendship, just stay friends and go hunting.

Posted by Jason Baldwin on 07-23-2015 11:58 PM:

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Originally posted by nitehunter2004
A partnership should always be 49/51% never partner with anyone that can't separate business from friendship, just stay friends and go hunting.

You said the key word there that sums it ALL up. " BUSINESS". For me coon hunting is just for fun but im finding out that aint how coon hunting really is anymore. Its business now. When did it change and why ?

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Posted by nitehunter2004 on 07-24-2015 12:13 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Jason Baldwin
You said the key word there that sums it ALL up. " BUSINESS". For me coon hunting is just for fun but im finding out that aint how coon hunting really is anymore. Its business now. When did it change and why ?

Don't over think it Jason, what i do will never in any way affect your fun!

Posted by Jason Baldwin on 07-24-2015 12:59 AM:

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Don't over think it Jason, what i do will never in any way affect your fun!

Your right. And its a free country. I worry about stuff i shouldnt. Lol

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Posted by Jason Baldwin on 07-24-2015 01:03 AM:

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Originally posted by mike shannon
I hunt what I breed and breed what I hunt until my health won't allow me...

I like that.

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Posted by joey on 07-24-2015 06:00 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Jason Baldwin
Its business now. When did it change and why ?

Its always been like that for some people Jason. It hasnt changed and if you are in it for fun then just keeping doing it that way and it never will change for you.

If it was about business for me I would have took the offer that was made on my gyp the other day. When it stops being about having a good time I will stop doing it.

Posted by GA DAWG on 07-24-2015 07:05 AM:

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Originally posted by JiM
Jason, who do you know that owns dogs, hires handlers and doesn't hunt at all? Name someone. Bet you can't.

I bet I can but he may go sometimes to listen. I own all mine Jason. I am in partners on bear killer and was partners with same guy on the harry semen dog I had a couple yrs ago. Way it is. He bought em. I feed em and hunt em and treat them as mine. I wanna whoop one or whatever. I do it. I hunt one in a hunt. I pay and I keep winnings. However I want to send this half breed somewhere to have the hair hunted off him and coons knocked out to him this fall for about 2 months and Im hoping he will pay one and me pay one.

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Posted by amazingcursouth on 07-24-2015 04:40 PM:

I will send a dog back to the owner before i let it ruin a friendship. But if you both enjoy hunting (I really enjoy hunting a nice hound) then keeping a dog hunted up and really getting them going for someone is fun for me. To look back at a dog that has been finished out, won a few hunts and knowing you had a part in getting the dog there is so much enjoyment.

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Posted by HOBO on 07-24-2015 05:11 PM:

I guess I fall under both.... The way we do it is if the dog is at your place you pay for any bills that may arise. If we breed a female whoever raises the pups keeps what money they may make off them.

Right now my Pride dog is in Ohio at Mike Blackburn's I told him any female he bred to Pride to keep the stud fee.

It's not about making money to me

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Posted by Ray&Luie on 07-24-2015 08:53 PM:

Farmin

Folks have been farming out hounds for years

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Posted by skeets on 07-26-2015 11:18 AM:

iam a coon hunter plum thru,if i like a dog, i want to be the one hunting and feeding him if i dont like the dog ill give him away to somebody that hunts.

Posted by high ridge on 07-26-2015 11:17 PM:

I hunt mostly my own now. I have been the hired gun many times in the past. It got old being told when and where to go.

I have been the sponsor on 3 guys when my work got busy. All 3 times I took the shaft,so no more free rides here to a guy with a light and a habit.

Jim,I can name a big timer that's won several major titles that I know never loads up to go hunting. He enjoys the business side of it. Some of his dogs are in my back yard. He enjoys wheeling and dealing instead of strollin and rollin

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