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cur coondawg

What's the average range of a cur coondawg before/without hitting a track.
Also how long is a raccoon track usually with a cur dog.

An actual cur coon dog or one that will just tree coons? LOL

I have one here that will go 800 yds to 3/4 of a mile routinely. And if he has been shut up for a while and that just happens to hit on a night that coons aren't out good, I have seen him bump a mile if I happen to be at a place where there aren't any roads and I don't tone him back.

The other one routinely ranges out anywhere from 500 yds to 3/4 of a mile. All this is if they don't hit a track. We aren't blessed with an abundance of coons, but will usually tree a couple a night here.

I refuse to walk a dog over tracks and cast mine off the tailgate just like hounds. It took me many years to get curs that would hunt like this.

Track length will vary, especially by time of year. You get on rutting coons you may get on a track that is old and may go close to a mile. Most will average 3-600 yds.

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I don't run coon dogs but I have hog hunted with gold nugget bred kemmers mt curs and Texas Smoke bred mt curs that came from coon dog breeding and they ranged as far as needed to find a hog when free casted...or they would strike (rig) off the wheeler...lots of times I roaded them while I was idling along and they ranged 4-5 hundred yards to each side of me in figure eights...if they disappeared they had one caught or were running one...sometimes they would run a hog for 4 or more hours...on few occasions they stayed bayed till the next day when hunting at night...the right cur dogs can be impressive...

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I don't run coon dogs but I have hog hunted with gold nugget bred kemmers mt curs and Texas Smoke bred mt curs that came from coon dog breeding and they ranged as far as needed to find a hog when free casted...or they would strike (rig) off the wheeler...lots of times I roaded them while I was idling along and they ranged 4-5 hundred yards to each side of me in figure eights...if they disappeared they had one caught or were running one...sometimes they would run a hog for 4 or more hours...on few occasions they stayed bayed till the next day when hunting at night...the right cur dogs can be impressive...

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I think your question depends on how the coons are moving, is it summer or winter, and where u live. My cur can put them up within 200 yards and I have seen her go up to 900 before. I don't like to hunt her much on coon cause she tends to rage out further on squirrel than usual. We only have to go 100-200 on sq and prolly 200-800 on coon tracks. I think it depends on the dogs nose too, my cur has a hotter nose than most so....

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Do switching helps a dog leave out quickly and slows down the checking in as often. I see some hound buddies switch when casting young ones and discourage checking in. How will this work on curs.

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Do switching helps a dog leave out quickly and slows down the checking in as often. I see some hound buddies switch when casting young ones and discourage checking in. How will this work on curs.

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My theory is that you can whip a dog and make him stay away from you but you can't make him hunt.

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I have hunted dogs off and on for over 50 years...mostly on...a dog is born to hunt if it is in him or her...I refuse to keep one that needs encouragement to hunt...

I like a pup or young dog to hunt and bay something...that pup can then be guided in the direction I want such as hunting style by how I like to hunt...sometimes a dog may have more hunt than what I want and sometimes not enough...

I like natural inclination to what I like...

if I have to use an e-collar or a switch or keep feeding tracks for a couple of years to make a dog then I can expect the same from the offspring if I were to breed that dog...

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I don't think that switching as a general rule would work very good on curs - you will just create a dog that is totally man shy of you or will try and eat you- one or the other - if you want a dog that don't check in with you when you cut it loose hunt a dadgum hound -

the curs that I had and coon hunted with hunted pretty close - most where pretty tight mouthed and the tracks they opened up on where generally over with in less than two minutes - my dogs caught a lot of coons on the ground or made them go up saplings...

there are curs that go deep but I seen fellas on the cur dog boards who spent years looking for one...

I will note that the curs I am referring to are mountain curs - the little black stephens stock dogs I hunted with were open on track and generally ranged a lot wider at night than the mt curs I hunted with

I also will say that probably 75% of the mt curs I hunted with wouldn't consistently tree a coon if they had to.... the really good ones generally make it look pretty easy... and lay up tons of coons

I hunted my coon dogs in Northern MO and Southern IA for the most part

I have never actually switched but one cur in my life for coming back/hunting.

She was/is one of the most gifted females I have ever had and was treeing squirrels at an early age. She should have won the Jr. hunt at Jamestown at 11 mos. placed second. Only reason she didn't win was my/handler error.

Anyway I was switching her over on coons and she was the most aggravating dog I had ever hunted. She would go out no more than 40 yds and come back in. Sometimes she would go out that distance and just stand. When she was out in the day she was gone!

This went on all summer. The aggravating thing was if she happened to stumble over a coon she would blister it. I knew she was going to do well if she ever got to where she would hunt decent. I went through that for several months and was at my wits end. One night I had a switch that I was swatting spiderwebs with and she had went out about 40 yds and came back and ran a circle around me like a pup. That was more than I could take. I rared back and swatted her good and told her "you better get out of here" and she was gone. And to this day I never had any problems out of her hunting at night.

I just got lucky.

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I got one that will circle out 300 yrds or so and check in if nothing is going on. She hunts hard the minute you unsnap her and if she strikes a coon she can put you in strange country

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