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Posted by Robert Welch on 05-27-2015 12:52 AM:

Autumn Oaks Announcment June Bloodlines New Rules

No ATV use on Fairgrounds.
May use Golf Carts, Motorized scooters and mopeds but must be a licensed driver with proof of insurance.

$5 parking pass if parking on grounds or $2 per person or $5 per family if walking on grounds from Salisbury road parking area.
Nite hunt entries get a free parking pass.
Vendors get a free parking pass
Show entrants that pre enter on Wednesday or Thursday on the fairgrounds get a free parking pass.
All others pay the $5 vehicle or walk in fee.

UKC Coonhound Confirmation Show on Thursday this year.
The Stud Dog, Bred By Exhibitor and Brood Bitch classes have been eliminated.

Only gate to enter Fairgrounds is off of NW L street on North side of Fairgrounds.

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Posted by MIKE CARDER on 05-27-2015 01:20 AM:

ATV?

So no Gators, mules, or anything like that?

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Posted by HOBO on 05-27-2015 01:23 AM:

And they thought the no smoking ban was bad.

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Posted by Dale Young on 05-27-2015 01:40 AM:

Changing times for sure . Some of it may be offsetting rising costs and some could be a safety factor but the Thursday shows just reflect change in general to our coonhound events . It's been coming on slowly and gaining momentum lately and I predict the bench shows will eventually be gone with the next step fading entries in the hunt until we remember AO's like many of us remember Kenton .
Hope I'm wrong

Posted by Billy Beckham on 05-27-2015 02:02 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Dale Young
Changing times for sure . Some of it may be offsetting rising costs and some could be a safety factor but the Thursday shows just reflect change in general to our coonhound events . It's been coming on slowly and gaining momentum lately and I predict the bench shows will eventually be gone with the next step fading entries in the hunt until we remember AO's like many of us remember Kenton .
Hope I'm wrong

We have this one at a facility big enough for everyone to park at, then we charge for parking. I don't believe that is a wise decision from a business stand point.
I love to hunt in other kennel clubs but I have always enjoyed the atmosphere better at the big UKC hunts. I believe loafing/visiting is the greatest part of the hunts. I believe we will cause some not to come.

Was it UKC's decision or the fairgrounds that decided to charge for parking?

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Posted by Pat Bizich on 05-27-2015 02:16 AM:

I go to visit ,watch the show, buy a few things I need,and check out new products.I'll just get stuff online.
Believe this is going to stop the casual visitors.
Think I will stay home this year.
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Posted by Rick powers on 05-27-2015 02:37 AM:

Charge to walk around, bad decision.

Posted by HOBO on 05-27-2015 02:53 AM:

SETWA has been charging for years.

Posted by kelly601lee on 05-27-2015 03:02 AM:

Camping

Are the camping rules changing as well? I think you used to pay $30 per night or just for any night earlier than Thursday...I can't remember exactly.

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Posted by Todd M on 05-27-2015 04:22 PM:

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Originally posted by Pat Bizich
I go to visit ,watch the show, buy a few things I need,and check out new products.I'll just get stuff online.
Believe this is going to stop the casual visitors.
Think I will stay home this year.
MONEY RULES!!

I may have read it wrong but it says $5 per car or $2 per person. I am not the best at math but I would guess that the shipping cost for shopping online will exceed that easily.

It's $5. One meal at McDonalds, 2 gallons of gas, a small tip at a restaurant, half the change in your ashtray.

Posted by msinc on 05-27-2015 05:18 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Todd M
I may have read it wrong but it says $5 per car or $2 per person. I am not the best at math but I would guess that the shipping cost for shopping online will exceed that easily.

It's $5. One meal at McDonalds, 2 gallons of gas, a small tip at a restaurant, half the change in your ashtray.

I agree, that's really not a lot of money to be able to go to an event of this size. I could care less if it was $20.00 to get in. I do believe that when it has to go from free to a fee there should be some sort of reasonable explanation to go along with the change...otherwise it's kind of like "bam, here it is, pay or go away!!" People don't particularly like that, even though I know that is not the attitude meant or taken. Many will see it that way and they will probably stay home.
The fee to get in will be less than shipping fees if you stay home and buy????? I am pretty sure the shipping fees are way less than the $150.00 in gas it took me to get there.

Posted by berger on 05-27-2015 06:07 PM:

This fee charge should deter some animal right activists from just showing up and taking pics.

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Posted by Dale Young on 05-27-2015 10:13 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by berger
This fee charge should deter some animal right activists from just showing up and taking pics.

They'd pay ten times that for a good chance to cause somebody trouble .

First reaction to a change is often negative and $5 isn't much plus if you're entering you don't pay so that won't stop me from something I enjoy as much as I do AO's .
I don't care for the conformation show being there since I view that as not a coonhound event but I realize my time has pretty much past and tomorrow will be whatever it turns into .

Posted by Riverbottom Ron on 05-27-2015 11:10 PM:

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5 BUCKS ISNT MUCH,I GO TO A.O. EACH YEAR.MOST ALL MY COONHUNTIN FRIENDS GO EACH YEAR. MY COMPETION HUNTING HAS PAST ME BY .I GO FOR THE FELLOWSHIPIN THE FUN, THE LAUGHS, AND SPENDIN TIME WITH FRIENDS THAT ARE LIKE FAMILY TO ME,A.O. IS MY VACATION ,I HAVE BEEN GOIN TO RICHMOND FOR MANY YEARS HAVENT MISSED ANY,TIMES HAVE CHANGED ,EVERYDAY PRICES OF THINGS GO UP LOOK AT GASOLINE,A GALLON OF MILK , AM I GONA STOP BUYIN GAS BECAUSE IT WENT UP,? AM I GONA STOP DRINKIN MILK CAUSE IT WENT UP? 5 BUCKS IS A SMALL PRICE TO PAY FOR WHAT YA GET IN RETURN....I BET ALL OF YOU GUYS AND GALS THAT GET ENERTAINED EACH YEAR BY THE GUYS ON THE GOLFCARTS RIDN AROUND AT NIGHT BLOWIN THERE BUGLES,,WELL RIGHT THERE IS WORTH THE 5 DOLLARS WORTH OF LAUGHS AND ENTERTAINMENT,,,SO LOSSEN UP ! I REALLY LIKE TO HEAR THE SOUND OF THOSE FAITHFUL BUGLERS AND THE TUNES THEY PLAY AT 2 OCLOCK IN THE MORNIN SO,,,,,,, YOU GOT MY EXTRA 5 BUCKS !!! SEE YAS AT A.O. IN SEPTEMBER YOU ALL HAVE A BLESSED ONE ! FROM THE RIVERBOTTOM,,,RON

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Posted by H. L. Meyer on 05-28-2015 01:46 AM:

Mr. Dale

I agree with you I think our time has passed the good days are behind us as far as the bench shows goes I also agree that a conformation show is way out of place at the GREAT AUTM OAKS a place where we honor the coonhound's BUT as stated our time has passed and so will I pass on this event this year. When the bench shows stop I will also I had a hell of a ride and got a good one now BUT as far as the conformation running around show goes that is not for me.

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Posted by Lovis Burns on 05-28-2015 12:26 PM:

I don't see anything wrong with it. They do the same at the Grand American and there entries don't suffer at all. And its not UKC's doing. Its the city of Richmond.

And I see why they don't want ATV's. Last year there where kids flying all over the place on them. Raising dust and being wreckless.

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Posted by Dale Young on 05-28-2015 12:39 PM:

Re: Mr. Dale

quote:
Originally posted by H. L. Meyer
I agree with you I think our time has passed the good days are behind us as far as the bench shows goes I also agree that a conformation show is way out of place at the GREAT AUTM OAKS a place where we honor the coonhound's BUT as stated our time has passed and so will I pass on this event this year. When the bench shows stop I will also I had a hell of a ride and got a good one now BUT as far as the conformation running around show goes that is not for me.

Friday & Saturday will be the same and I usually spend most of Thursday looking and shopping anyway . I've never been interested much in Thursdays shows anyway . We usually get there Tuesday and just relax til the weekend . In my advanced years I'm enjoying that more than the competition so we will continue while we still can .

Posted by Allen / UKC on 05-28-2015 04:24 PM:

Re: Camping

quote:
Originally posted by kelly601lee
Are the camping rules changing as well? I think you used to pay $30 per night or just for any night earlier than Thursday...I can't remember exactly.

That's correct. There are no changes for camping Thursday through Saturday.

Posted by SCOTT ENGLE on 05-28-2015 05:11 PM:

Great Hunt! Look forward to going!

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Posted by Robert Johnson on 05-28-2015 06:36 PM:

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Posted by Adam Wingler on 05-28-2015 07:14 PM:

I think ukc should charge $5 for complainers on this forum, they'd have enough to cure world hunger.

Posted by pigman816 on 05-28-2015 07:50 PM:

Golf Carts

When will we be able to reserve golf cart's? Looking forward to seeing everybody there. ...... Jim

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Posted by Levi Hawk on 05-28-2015 11:21 PM:

I think we all deserve an explenation for the change. $5 isn't much that's for sure, but its the simple point of the matter. I'm going to go back to the knee jerk DNA change. What was the reason there? Seems like we're starting to get nickel and dimed. Like I said, the money isn't the issue...... it's the point that there's never an explenation.

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Posted by Billy Beckham on 05-28-2015 11:54 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Lovis Burns
I don't see anything wrong with it. They do the same at the Grand American and there entries don't suffer at all. And its not UKC's doing. Its the city of Richmond.

And I see why they don't want ATV's. Last year there where kids flying all over the place on them. Raising dust and being wreckless.

I will be there hunting both nights if these culls are ready. I'm glad to hear it was Richmond charging and not UKC but regardless you know it will keep some folks away

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Posted by dustin15 on 05-29-2015 12:32 AM:

Who came up with the city of Richmond charging for parking?

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