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I need your opinion on this

When breeding your stud to a female with no stud fee not to mention you gave them the female for free to begin with (forget that part though) If you were expecting pups for stud how many pups should you get. I've always thought 3 or more pups that you should get two pups. What's ur thoughts.

Choice pup sounds fair to me

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choice pup is my thought but its just an opinion and that's 250.00 give or take

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Agree with Travis and Steeb

Pick of the litter Pup choice is a normal request

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It depends on the deal and what both parties agree too. It should be discussed prior to the breeding. However, one or two pups to the Stud owner for Stud fee is common. Sometimes the owner of the female only wants one or two. It varies on the situation. The best deal to be made is one the stud owner and breeder agree too. Point is don't "expect" anything without making an agreement first. Just my opinion.

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Originally posted by 8hawg
It depends on the deal and what both parties agree too. It should be discussed prior to the breeding. However, one or two pups to the Stud owner for Stud fee is common. Sometimes the owner of the female only wants one or two. It varies on the situation. The best deal to be made is one the stud owner and breeder agree too. Point is don't "expect" anything without making an agreement first. Just my opinion.

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thanks so much guys

We did kinda have a verbal agreement but then they fell in love with too many of the pups before I got to look at em. I did all the wormer and shots on both ends as well. O'well ya live and learn. Who wants to do a written agreement on some pups. Either I need to not breed this nice of pups to where people argue over em or get it in writing. Thanks again cause I shared this page with em so you guys were kinda like the jury and i was in the right. Thanks Norm

So are you saying you didn't get choice pup?

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I agree with these guys, you should get a choice pup for sure...

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I've seen friendships destroyed over things like this. I hope You can work this out.

I had something like this happen to me once. They may have been in love with the choice pup but I still took it. That was the deal and I held them to it.

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had a breeding where she only had 2 and they fell in love with both but sold one and kept 1 how does that work? I was the sucker,I was to get one of them?

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HIGH SCORING BLUETICK BLK & TAN DAYS 2016, 2017 and 2018
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2019 ILLINOIS STATE CHAMPION
2019 AUTUMN OAKS GRAND 16
2019 AUTUMN OAKS NATL GRNITECH OF BREED
2019 ZONE 3 HIGH SCORING DOG
2019 WORLD CH TOP 100
2019 PURINA NATIONALS BREED WINNER.
2019 FALL ROUND UP KING OF THE HUNT.
2019 ERCHA PKC PRO HUNT TOP 4
2020 WINTER CLASSIC SAT. 4TH PLACE CHAMPION DIVISION
2020 WORLD QUALIIFIED
2020 NATIONAL BLUETICK DAYS INVITATIONAL HUNT WINNER
2020 NATIONAL BLUETICK DAYS DOUBLE CAST WINNER 3RD PLACE GRNITECH FRI AND 4TH PLACE GRNITECH SAT
2020 Natl english days high scoring dog overall fri 1rst place grnitech sat 3rd place grnitech.
2021 invitational hunt winner
2021 natl bluetick days 9th place RQE winner
T0C Top 64 winner

ALSO HOME OF
PR Stebers Lil Blue Krayzee[dual grand penny x grnitech krypt]
nitech Stebers Big Ole Slick
NITECH STEBERS MIGHTY LONESOME 3 AKA CASH[7 wins towards grnitech
Stebers Mighty Blue Bell
Stebers 5 Gen
Stebers Pure Country
Stebers Shining Diamond
Stebers Lonesome Sue
Stebers Mighty Blue Patsy
Stebers Ole Blue Betty
Stebers Lil Blue Krayzee II
AND SEVERAL YOUNG ONES IN THE MIX

When breeding for a pup, I always set a number....6 or 8 usually.... if she raised more than that, I got 2. I have this understood before the female is ever bred. Most of the time, this encourages the female owner to go ahead and pay a stud fee.

They pick one, I picked second and third.

If someone raises a litter and puts all the hard work in, I'm not going to take the best looking pup in the litter from them.

I agree w/ hat creek

1 pup- stud owner gets 0

2-8 pups- stud gets 1 pup

9 + pups - stud gets 2 pups

Average litter is 7... That way the dam still gets 7 if she has 9 and it benefits the stud owner if she has a whopping litter.

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WELL? I think 1 stud fee ,1 pup! After all guys most of these stud dogs are lucky to have the chance to breed a nice female. I realy think that the stud dogs should be paying the female for the chance to produce a good cross.( The female has all the chance for bad thing happening to her during the whole ordeal of having pups l)

agreed !!!!!!

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Originally posted by Mark V.
WELL? I think 1 stud fee ,1 pup! After all guys most of these stud dogs are lucky to have the chance to breed a nice female. I realy think that the stud dogs should be paying the female for the chance to produce a good cross.( The female has all the chance for bad thing happening to her during the whole ordeal of having pups l)

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