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Posted by Bob Hennessey on 04-14-2015 02:34 PM:

Prednisone For Dogs

The best luck I've had is PREDNISONE. 5MG TABLET
10 days 1 tablet each day.
5 days 1/2 tablet each day.
5 days 1/4 tablet each day.
Always do the complete treatment, even if their voice improves before you finish the 20 day treatment.
You usually can get it from a vet. It is a steroid, not very expensive.
I have had good luck with it.

Seems like lots of people looking for help for barked out dogs. Thought I would repost this. Best luck I have had for hounds that become hoarse. It's cheap, but you can only get it from a vet. Dog must be kept quiet, and you have to do the whole treatment before hunting dog. Good luck.


Posted by RLenhart on 04-14-2015 02:44 PM:

I haven;t had to give it to any hounds for barking problems yet but I have a cocker that's stuck on them until the day he dies for a digestive problem. It's amazing the attitude those things give a dog. He was the sweatest dog you could ever meet until he got on the roids now he's Mr. Attitude. It's almost funny sometimes trying to correct him.
It's not that he's actually mean he's just down right baligerent. LOL


Posted by Richard Lambert on 04-14-2015 04:15 PM:

Re: Predisone For Dogs

quote:
Originally posted by Bob Hennessey
...... It is a steroid...Good luck.

Be careful....Have you ever heard of "Roid Rage"? Didn't Pro Ball players "use to" use steroids? Are we going to have to start drug testing dogs? I can just see the winners at a big hunt lined up to pee in a cup. You might want to check out the side effects before you start giving them to your dog. Prednisone is a wonder drug but it can have consequences.


Posted by RLenhart on 04-14-2015 04:21 PM:

Re: Re: Predisone For Dogs

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Be careful....Have you ever heard of "Roid Rage"? Didn't Pro Ball players "use to" use steroids? Are we going to have to start drug testing dogs? I can just see the winners at a big hunt lined up to pee in a cup. You might want to check out the side effects before you start giving them to your dog. Prednisone is a wonder drug but it can have consequences.

That's what I was saying about the cocker. It's almost funny to deal with him now but you deffinately do have a whole different dog when they're on them.


Posted by ahallada on 04-14-2015 05:19 PM:

Prednisone is considered a steroid but it's not in the same class as the steroids illegally used by those in sports. These are corticosteroids and are similar to cortisone which is a naturally occuring hormone in the body responsible for dealing with stress. In fact it has almost the complete opposite effect on the body as testosterone. Cortisone breaks muscle tissue down in the body and testosterone builds it up. Cortisone is produced by the adrenal glands which are next to the kidneys.

Prednisone is used for many things in medicine but most of it's benefits are from it's anti-inflammatory effects on tissue and treating Addison's Disease (lack of cortisone production). It is commonly used to treat allergies and inflammatory skin conditions. At much higher doses, it can suppress the immune system and is used to manage auto Immune diseases and certain types of cancer such as Lymphoma. Used sparingly it works well for it's intended purpose. If used long term, it can cause a drug induced Cushings disease, diabetes, and other various diseases.

It can definitely lead to changes in behavior and aggression is one of them, although it is rare. I'd say 1 in about 200 show changes in behavior when used short term and lower doses as described for the purpose above. We use it almost daily in our hospital.

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American Redbone Coonhound Assoc. Hall of Fame

Gr.Nt.Ch. Bussrow Bottom Brandy II
1991 American Redbone Days Champion
1992 AKC World Champion Redbone
1992 ACHA World Champion Redbone
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1994 US Redbone Days Opposite Sex
Produced 2 Nt. Ch. , 1 Gr.Nt.Ch. out of 2 litters and two Redbone Days Winners

Gr.Nt.Ch.Gr.Ch. PKC Gold Ch. Layton's Classy Cali
2012 UKC World Champion Redbone and 7th Place Overall
2012, 2013, 2014, 2015 UKC World Champion Redbone Female
2015 PKC Blue Ribbon Pro Hunt Winner - Goodsprings, AL
2015 PKC Blue Ribbon Pro Series Race - 3rd Place Overall
2016 PKC Blue Ribbon Pro Hunt Winner - New Albany, MS
2016 PKC Texas State Race Winner
2016 PKC Redbone Breed Race Winner
PKC All Time Money Winning Redbone

PKC Ch. Gr.Nt.Ch. Coffman's Smokin Red Buck
2016 UKC World Hunt 5th Place and World Champion Redbone
2016 National Redbone Days Overall Winner

Gr.Nt.Ch. Reinhart's Central Page
(Gr.Nt.Ch. Timber Jack x Gr.Nt.Ch. Brandy II)

Gr.Nt.Ch. Too the Maxx
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1992 National Redbone Days Champion

Gr.Ch.Nt.Ch. Ambraw River Rock
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1992 US Redbone Days Opposite Sex

Nt.Ch. Tree Bustin Annabelle
1986 American Redbone Days All Red Hunt Winner

Nt.Ch. Timber Mace
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Mother of Gr.Nt.Ch. Babb's Hazel

Nt. Ch. Timber Shock
(Gr.Nt.Ch.Timber Jack x Gr.Nt.Ch. Outlaw Jessie)

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Posted by Fisher13 on 04-14-2015 07:55 PM:

You can also purchase the generic with out a script from Canada

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Posted by hillbilly56 on 04-14-2015 11:41 PM:

my wifes shitzu has to have them at least 3 times a yr for her skin allergys they really help only bad thing about them they can damage thier liver and other organs if thier on them for long periods of time


Posted by Billy Beckham on 04-14-2015 11:45 PM:

Re: Re: Predisone For Dogs

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Be careful....Have you ever heard of "Roid Rage"? Didn't Pro Ball players "use to" use steroids? Are we going to have to start drug testing dogs? I can just see the winners at a big hunt lined up to pee in a cup. You might want to check out the side effects before you start giving them to your dog. Prednisone is a wonder drug but it can have consequences.




Man I would like to see whats flowing thru the veins of these hounds at some hunts I have been at thru the years

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Posted by DocAcumen on 04-15-2015 09:33 AM:

Prednisone, is an anti inflammatory drug.

not a steroid that causes aggression!

was at one time, not sure about now? was given to teenagers for sever acne.....


they are a Corticosteroid....
way different than an Anabolic steroid.....


side affects sure there are..... But, not a boost of testosterone!

side effects yes , but not the same as an anabolic!

they are a strong steroid! but , not for the same thing at all...

they are actually opposite steroids! lol

look it up....


Posted by hillbilly56 on 04-16-2015 01:17 AM:

Re: Re: Re: Predisone For Dogs

quote:
Originally posted by Billy Beckham
Man I would like to see whats flowing thru the veins of these hounds at some hunts I have been at thru the years
surely the hunt guys don't dope thier dogs like the horse pullers do lol


Posted by hillbilly56 on 04-16-2015 01:17 AM:

Re: Re: Re: Predisone For Dogs

quote:
Originally posted by Billy Beckham
Man I would like to see whats flowing thru the veins of these hounds at some hunts I have been at thru the years
surely the hunt guys don't dope thier dogs like the horse pullers do lol


Posted by AndyMiller on 04-16-2015 01:26 AM:

ya I had back surgery I know how that stuff works you can fly as high as you want

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Posted by Bob Hennessey on 10-18-2016 04:57 PM:

btt


Posted by qchounds on 10-18-2016 05:53 PM:

I have a 6 year old female that lost her voice when she was 2 years old because the guy I got her from let her bark all the time. When she is treed 400 yds away I can barely hear her. All her pups have HUUUGGE mouths. Will Prednisone help at this point? I have it on hand, but I know it can cause problems if used incorrectly

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Posted by ahallada on 10-19-2016 12:47 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by DocAcumen
Prednisone, is an anti inflammatory drug.

not a steroid that causes aggression!

was at one time, not sure about now? was given to teenagers for sever acne.....


they are a Corticosteroid....
way different than an Anabolic steroid.....


side affects sure there are..... But, not a boost of testosterone!

side effects yes , but not the same as an anabolic!

they are a strong steroid! but , not for the same thing at all...

they are actually opposite steroids! lol

look it up....




Prednisone is a steroid. It's in the class corticosteroid. It can lead to aggression issues in dogs. It is considered a catabolic steroid where Testosterone is an anabolic steroid. Catabolic steroids tend to break body tissue ie. muscle tissue down over time where anabolic steroids tend to build muscle tissue up.

Doc

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Current:

PKC Ch. Gr.Nt.Ch. Cat Scratch Fever
(Gr.Nt.Ch. PKC Ch. Moonlight Aftershock x Gr.Nt.Ch. PKC Ch. Moonlight Outlaw Breanna)
2016 Finished to PKC Ch. in one week!

Dual Grand Champion CHKC Ch., PKC Gold Ch. All Grand Outlaw G-Man
(Gr.Nt.Ch.Glissens JJ Jr. x Gr.Nt.Ch. Outlaw Billy Jean)
4 Generations of All Grand Nite Champions!
Timber Jack 3X and Timber Chopper over 30X
2019 Southern National Redbone Days Champion
2016 National Grand Nite Champion Redbone
2016 CHKC Redbone Days Champion
2016 PKC Super Stakes Reserve Champion
2016 CHKC Elite Shootout Winner - Texas
CHKC All Time Money Winning Redbone

Bodacious
(Gr.Nt.Ch. Gr.Ch.PKC. Gold Ch.CHKC CH. Outlaw G-Man x Gr.Nt.Ch.Gr.Ch. CHKC Ch., PKC Gold Ch. Classy Cali)


Past:
Gr.Nt.Ch.Ch. Dawns Timber Jack
1988 American Redbone Days All Red Hunt Winner
1989 UKC World Champion Redbone
1989 Purina Outstanding Redbone Coonhound
#2 Historic Redbone Sire/ Top 20 All Breeds
American Redbone Coonhound Assoc. Hall of Fame

Gr.Nt.Ch. Bussrow Bottom Brandy II
1991 American Redbone Days Champion
1992 AKC World Champion Redbone
1992 ACHA World Champion Redbone
1992 Wisconsin State Champion
1994 US Redbone Days Opposite Sex
Produced 2 Nt. Ch. , 1 Gr.Nt.Ch. out of 2 litters and two Redbone Days Winners

Gr.Nt.Ch.Gr.Ch. PKC Gold Ch. Layton's Classy Cali
2012 UKC World Champion Redbone and 7th Place Overall
2012, 2013, 2014, 2015 UKC World Champion Redbone Female
2015 PKC Blue Ribbon Pro Hunt Winner - Goodsprings, AL
2015 PKC Blue Ribbon Pro Series Race - 3rd Place Overall
2016 PKC Blue Ribbon Pro Hunt Winner - New Albany, MS
2016 PKC Texas State Race Winner
2016 PKC Redbone Breed Race Winner
PKC All Time Money Winning Redbone

PKC Ch. Gr.Nt.Ch. Coffman's Smokin Red Buck
2016 UKC World Hunt 5th Place and World Champion Redbone
2016 National Redbone Days Overall Winner

Gr.Nt.Ch. Reinhart's Central Page
(Gr.Nt.Ch. Timber Jack x Gr.Nt.Ch. Brandy II)

Gr.Nt.Ch. Too the Maxx
(Gr.Nt.Ch. Timber Jack x Gr.Nt.Ch. Jenkins Crying Katie)
1992 National Redbone Days Champion

Gr.Ch.Nt.Ch. Ambraw River Rock
(Gr.Nt.Ch. Timber Jack x Gr.Ch.Nt.Ch. Hersh's Huntin Red Kate)
1992 US Redbone Days Opposite Sex

Nt.Ch. Tree Bustin Annabelle
1986 American Redbone Days All Red Hunt Winner

Nt.Ch. Timber Mace
(Gr.Nt.Ch. Timber Jack X Nt.Ch. Tree Bustin Annabelle)
Mother of Gr.Nt.Ch. Babb's Hazel

Nt. Ch. Timber Shock
(Gr.Nt.Ch.Timber Jack x Gr.Nt.Ch. Outlaw Jessie)

Gr. Ch. Nt. Ch. Squaw Mountain Goldie
(Direct Daughter of Gr.Nt.Ch.Smokey Mountain Brandy)
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1988 Indiana State Champion


Posted by ahallada on 10-19-2016 12:49 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by qchounds
I have a 6 year old female that lost her voice when she was 2 years old because the guy I got her from let her bark all the time. When she is treed 400 yds away I can barely hear her. All her pups have HUUUGGE mouths. Will Prednisone help at this point? I have it on hand, but I know it can cause problems if used incorrectly


Hey Dave, I'd say she has a lot of scar tissue formed and the only thing that may help at this point is surgery by a good boarded surgeon. You can try the prednisone, but it would probably only be temporary if it did help.

Doc

__________________
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Current:

PKC Ch. Gr.Nt.Ch. Cat Scratch Fever
(Gr.Nt.Ch. PKC Ch. Moonlight Aftershock x Gr.Nt.Ch. PKC Ch. Moonlight Outlaw Breanna)
2016 Finished to PKC Ch. in one week!

Dual Grand Champion CHKC Ch., PKC Gold Ch. All Grand Outlaw G-Man
(Gr.Nt.Ch.Glissens JJ Jr. x Gr.Nt.Ch. Outlaw Billy Jean)
4 Generations of All Grand Nite Champions!
Timber Jack 3X and Timber Chopper over 30X
2019 Southern National Redbone Days Champion
2016 National Grand Nite Champion Redbone
2016 CHKC Redbone Days Champion
2016 PKC Super Stakes Reserve Champion
2016 CHKC Elite Shootout Winner - Texas
CHKC All Time Money Winning Redbone

Bodacious
(Gr.Nt.Ch. Gr.Ch.PKC. Gold Ch.CHKC CH. Outlaw G-Man x Gr.Nt.Ch.Gr.Ch. CHKC Ch., PKC Gold Ch. Classy Cali)


Past:
Gr.Nt.Ch.Ch. Dawns Timber Jack
1988 American Redbone Days All Red Hunt Winner
1989 UKC World Champion Redbone
1989 Purina Outstanding Redbone Coonhound
#2 Historic Redbone Sire/ Top 20 All Breeds
American Redbone Coonhound Assoc. Hall of Fame

Gr.Nt.Ch. Bussrow Bottom Brandy II
1991 American Redbone Days Champion
1992 AKC World Champion Redbone
1992 ACHA World Champion Redbone
1992 Wisconsin State Champion
1994 US Redbone Days Opposite Sex
Produced 2 Nt. Ch. , 1 Gr.Nt.Ch. out of 2 litters and two Redbone Days Winners

Gr.Nt.Ch.Gr.Ch. PKC Gold Ch. Layton's Classy Cali
2012 UKC World Champion Redbone and 7th Place Overall
2012, 2013, 2014, 2015 UKC World Champion Redbone Female
2015 PKC Blue Ribbon Pro Hunt Winner - Goodsprings, AL
2015 PKC Blue Ribbon Pro Series Race - 3rd Place Overall
2016 PKC Blue Ribbon Pro Hunt Winner - New Albany, MS
2016 PKC Texas State Race Winner
2016 PKC Redbone Breed Race Winner
PKC All Time Money Winning Redbone

PKC Ch. Gr.Nt.Ch. Coffman's Smokin Red Buck
2016 UKC World Hunt 5th Place and World Champion Redbone
2016 National Redbone Days Overall Winner

Gr.Nt.Ch. Reinhart's Central Page
(Gr.Nt.Ch. Timber Jack x Gr.Nt.Ch. Brandy II)

Gr.Nt.Ch. Too the Maxx
(Gr.Nt.Ch. Timber Jack x Gr.Nt.Ch. Jenkins Crying Katie)
1992 National Redbone Days Champion

Gr.Ch.Nt.Ch. Ambraw River Rock
(Gr.Nt.Ch. Timber Jack x Gr.Ch.Nt.Ch. Hersh's Huntin Red Kate)
1992 US Redbone Days Opposite Sex

Nt.Ch. Tree Bustin Annabelle
1986 American Redbone Days All Red Hunt Winner

Nt.Ch. Timber Mace
(Gr.Nt.Ch. Timber Jack X Nt.Ch. Tree Bustin Annabelle)
Mother of Gr.Nt.Ch. Babb's Hazel

Nt. Ch. Timber Shock
(Gr.Nt.Ch.Timber Jack x Gr.Nt.Ch. Outlaw Jessie)

Gr. Ch. Nt. Ch. Squaw Mountain Goldie
(Direct Daughter of Gr.Nt.Ch.Smokey Mountain Brandy)
1990 Autumn Oaks Best of Show Winner
1988 Indiana State Champion


Posted by qchounds on 10-19-2016 04:45 PM:

Originally posted by ahallada [/i]
Hey Dave, I'd say she has a lot of scar tissue formed and the only thing that may help at this point is surgery by a good boarded surgeon. You can try the prednisone, but it would probably only be temporary if it did help.

Doc
[/QUOTE]

Good thing for garmins! I am not going to bother with it at all then. Thanks for the answer

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