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Posted by Jackson87 on 12-15-2014 10:48 PM:

Is there any coontreers that ant yard barkers?

Seems like every pup I get wants to bark at the house all day long.I know most of the top competion bloodlines are wild and crazy but surely there's one out there with some brains.Ive wore out several bark collars and they still bark.Is there any bloodlines with talent and brains anymore?


Posted by Josh Michaelis on 12-16-2014 02:15 AM:

I live in town. 4 full kennels, no bark collars, no barking, no complaints from the neighbors.

One female pup out of trader 4.5 months old. Three males that are kennel quiet, two out of Skippers Deuce, one out of his littermate brother BlackJack Boone

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Posted by Josh Michaelis on 12-16-2014 02:26 AM:

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Get an English!


Than when they bark you cant hear em, lololol

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Posted by msinc on 12-16-2014 03:14 AM:

I have never had any luck with Walkers...until I decided to get back into coon hunting and got the one I have now. He is the smartest, nicest dog I have ever had. He listens, he doesn't make very many mistakes and he only ever barked in the kennel once. My wife dropped a Jack-O-lantern out of the back of our Gator on her way to the dumpster. That face was sitting there about 25 feet away looking right into his kennel and he didn't like it.
He is Mr. Clean on the top and Mr. Smith bred on the bottom. Not very big, he only weights 50 pounds but has the voice of a freight train. He ran deer until I shocked him about five times, after that he hasn't ran anything off. We don't seem to have any fox around this year.
Now if one of my buddies show up and parks a pick up truck near the kennel he will sound off but all I have to do is tell him to knock it off and he stops. He wasn't a fast or early starter and he is not a really hard blow down tree dog but for what he does right I'll take that trade.


Posted by Jackson87 on 12-16-2014 03:15 AM:

LoL.I have 3 walkers and 1 english.Actually right now the English pup is the worst.Its a good thing she don't have a big mouth.Id be in trouble.They bark at anything that moves especially the neighbors horses.The walkers are Harry breed.The first and prolly the last I will own.Ill look into Skippers Duece


Posted by NiteHeat on 12-16-2014 03:00 PM:

I promise you I have a dog that hasnt barked once in his kennel. Just wont do it. He doesnt care to. Even when its time to hunt that tail starts wagging and he will throw those paws up but wont let out a peep. He barks in the timber only. I like it


Posted by Larry Atherton on 12-16-2014 05:57 PM:

I have had many more non-barkers than barkers through the years. Right now, I have two females unless a stranger car pulls in the drive way and sits there with the engine running or a stranger walks through our yard you will not hear them.

My neighbors dogs (not hounds) though are idiots. They will sit out there and bark at us in our own yard for hours.

I no longer will keep a kennel barker! One was my fill!

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Posted by msinc on 12-16-2014 06:29 PM:

When I first started coon hunting back in 1977 one of the first "old wives tails" I heard was "a good coon dog wont bark on a chain." I have heard a lot of those saying that are similar but this is one that seems to be true. I guess it's kind of simple...if a dog isn't smart enough to shut up just how good of a dog is he ever really going to be???


Posted by boozeboxer on 12-16-2014 06:39 PM:

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Originally posted by msinc
When I first started coon hunting back in 1977 one of the first "old wives tails" I heard was "a good coon dog wont bark on a chain." I have heard a lot of those saying that are similar but this is one that seems to be true. I guess it's kind of simple...if a dog isn't smart enough to shut up just how good of a dog is he ever really going to be???


I don't think that is true. Some bark alot and tree coons. Some bark alot and don't.

Some don't bark at all and tree coons. Some don't bark alot and don't.

I can not put up with barkers, but some people have their dogs away from the house where it doesn't matter. The best dog I had barked too much.

I will say the dogs that I have had that barked the most, I did not own as puppies---so upbringing has something to do with it for me.

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Posted by Fisher13 on 12-16-2014 07:14 PM:

Jackson in my experience, an hr of exercise goes a long way. I would think about finding a way to burn off there energy, if you haven't tried that. If the horses are setting them off, is there a way to block the view from the kennel so they can't see the horses.

I agree kennel manners have seemed to slide by the way side. I think it's a compromise one makes when breeding for more drive.

Bones from a local butcher will also help

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Posted by msinc on 12-16-2014 07:52 PM:

"Like Fisher13 said, exercise and a bone or 2 go a long way."

Maybe, maybe not...I have a female that paces and barks at nothing when she is not wearing a bark collar. Every day the three young dogs I own are run during the day on my farm. I turn them loose and get on my 4 wheeler and the four of us go on a three to five mile fun trip around the entire farm, sometimes two laps. When they all get back in the kennel she will immediately pace and bark at nothing when I get out of sight. The bone thing might go along way... but only if I shove it down her throat sideways because the three mile run don't seem to do it either.


Posted by Jackson87 on 12-16-2014 10:51 PM:

Yeah exercise is needed but trust me when I say these dogs run there kennels all day.I told the wife lastnight Im gonna tarp off the kennels toward the horse farm so that should help.That and more hunting should help.I was thinking it was more of a new Bloodline thing cause I've had dogs my whole life and most didn't bark unless they needed food or water.Thanks for all the input.


Posted by treestroker on 12-17-2014 11:46 PM:

frankie

had a litter out of him about 3 months old that have plenty of kennel manners . Don't know if there all like that out of him but these seem to have something going for them there out of a legend female and they are loud already.


Posted by 24/7 on 12-18-2014 02:22 AM:

Re: frankie

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Originally posted by treestroker
had a litter out of him about 3 months old that have plenty of kennel manners . Don't know if there all like that out of him but these seem to have something going for them there out of a legend female and they are loud already.


Ive heard that alot out of frankie they will go all night but quiet an calm in the kennel i have one booked now so I will find out myself now lol


Posted by Fisher13 on 12-18-2014 08:21 PM:

I would recommend bone his pups are known for being level headed.

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Posted by jason_beagles on 12-19-2014 11:30 AM:

I haven't had much trouble with barking except when they had a reason to bark (strange people or dogs coming around). I have had 3 that were a problem over the years. 1 out of Lippers Stylish Cade and 2 out of Trackman. The Cade dog would bark through a bark collar. As it shocked her she would have her head tilted to the side and steady barking. When it stopped shocking she would put her head back upright and continued barking. She was probably the worst dog experience in my life. The Trackman dogs I could get them to stop barking but eventually got tired of yelling at them so I moved them out.

Now my dogs my dogs that go back to Goose Creek Slugger and I have 3 (grand pups all different breeding otherwise) I go weeks without hearing them bark. I am addicted and they tree the HELL out of coons.


Posted by Fisher13 on 12-20-2014 01:32 PM:

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Originally posted by jason_beagles
I haven't had much trouble with barking except when they had a reason to bark (strange people or dogs coming around). I have had 3 that were a problem over the years. 1 out of Lippers Stylish Cade and 2 out of Trackman. The Cade dog would bark through a bark collar. As it shocked her she would have her head tilted to the side and steady barking. When it stopped shocking she would put her head back upright and continued barking. She was probably the worst dog experience in my life. The Trackman dogs I could get them to stop barking but eventually got tired of yelling at them so I moved them out.

Now my dogs my dogs that go back to Goose Creek Slugger and I have 3 (grand pups all different breeding otherwise) I go weeks without hear them bark. I am addicted and they tree the HELL out of coons.



That's weird trackman throw pretty level headed dogs, I sometimes think this type of issue can be found in any line, just might show up a little more in certain lines.

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Posted by jason_beagles on 12-20-2014 02:37 PM:

I was surprised as well, but agree it can be found anywhere.


Posted by gunslinger266 on 12-26-2014 06:12 PM:

Has a lot to do with their surroundings my kennel is in the pasture and I have two donkeys that torment the dogs to no end. I also have 3 young dogs on chain that bark all the time unless they have a collar on. Michael Rosemond has the best behaved hound I ever saw, Howler don't get excited or bark at anything. She also pays no attention to a caged coon. I set one right beside her one time and she didn't hardly even wake up, yet she has been the end to a lot of wild ones.

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Posted by Jackson87 on 12-27-2014 06:06 AM:

Yeah environment must have a effect on them.I have a horse barn directly behind my house.People pay to keep there horses there.Well every morning they let them strange horses out together while they clean the stalls.They stampede all over the feild kicking and charging each other.That really fires my young dogs up.I put some tarps up but they can still here them tromping around.


Posted by Fisher13 on 12-27-2014 03:15 PM:

I do believe Harry dogs are more wired up then most.
I had move my kennels away from my house, to the back of my lot. They were now facing my house and deck, mine seemed to bark a lot more after doing this. After sometime I realize they were able to see inside and see me moving around and such. Long story short I ended up moving them back next to the house but facing away. This seemed to help.

I would imagine though if they were able to see people moving around they would also bark.

I have also cut down to 2 dogs, my finished hound and a pup. This also seems to help, I usually always take them both, and it's easier to keep them hunted down.

Maybe you could try setting up a zip line, that you could rotate them on so they can get sometime to run back and forth.

Another thing I read recently and I agree with is, if your always taking the bark collars on and off they get collar smart pretty quick. It seems to work best when I leave them on for an extended amount of time. Seems to do a better job of breAking the habit. I use a regular collar to help position the bark collar, so that way it isn't always in the same spot and causes sores. Sometimes ill keep the bark collar below the regular collar, to give the top of the neck a break. Bones seem to work well, when I have then off the bark collar, they offer a good distraction, and cure some of the boredom.

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Posted by CONRAD FRYAR on 12-28-2014 07:28 PM:

I agree with msinc, I will not stand for a dog that barks at nothing, and yes from my experience it comes down to smarts, there are exceptions when someone is leaving them chained forever. But i have planted a few for it.
What I have noticed thru the years is the smart one's never make a sound unless there's something going on, like stranger coming down driveway etc....

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Posted by Carl Mac on 12-31-2014 06:40 AM:

One of the things that I like about my dog is how he is around the house.
He never paces the pen, never barks in pen or box and only time he leaves the yard is to use the bathroom in the hay field because he won't where I mow.

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Posted by shelbabiggs on 01-03-2015 02:21 AM:

IF A DOG HAS ANY BRAINS AT ALL YOU TELL HIM TO QUIT HE DON'T, CUT ABOUT A 3 FOOT SWITCH USE IT ON THEM. BET THAT WILL WORK NEVER OWNED A BARK COLLER NEVER WILL. IF SOMEONE STRANGE COMES THEY LET ME KNOW. OR SOMETHINGS OUT THEIR, LEARN THEM TO LOAD, LEARN THEM TO LEAD, LEARN NOT TO BARK WORKS FOR ME.

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