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Scoring question

Dog a is treed right handed of the cast other dogs are left handed trailing. Guy trees dog a as his dog another guy says it's his dog clearly is just one dog in that direction get to the tree and it is not the guy that called his dog treed but is the other guys dog. How do you score this obviously the guy gets minused the tree points but how does the actual handler of dog a get scored

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125+ as long as the 5 was run.

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If both guys treed then score it, if the owner of the dog treeing did not tree he must tree his dog and then you back out and let him tree for 5 min. This is just the way they have done me before. The rules state after the dog is treed it must tree for 5 min. ???

I agree with Mark. If the guy knew it was his dog he should have treed her. Ive had it happen on strike before and Id go right in and strike off the same bark because it was my dog. The judge didn't know what to think about it but it counted.

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The dog called is minused 125 (calling wrong dog first offense). The actual dog treeing may not be handled until declared treed and "his/her" five expires, or all dogs are declared treed.

In other words; when you see it is not the dog that was called then back out and the handler should declared the dog treed. From there, follow regular procedures.

The mistake some will make is handling that dog at the tree that has not been declared treed. And.....now you've created a mess.

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Very welcome. Good question and creates a situation a lot of times because they tend to want to handle that dog that has not been declared treed.

Like MarkV said; back out and call that dog treed.

i know what the rule say s a bout runing the 5 again , but this handler gets screwed by this rule "as i did" when you have all ready run the 5, closed the tree reopend the tree and the other dogs came in on the "26minutes" after the first 5 was up "walking to the tree and finding the rule for the real smart one who dont have enough common sence to read them at home in there spare time, the same ones who said two handlers cant tree the one dog thats treeing " so ukc rules say lets punish the dog who treed the coon for 30 minutes by its self and the handler who knows his dog and the rules!!!! THATS WHY YOU MUST GO AHEAD AND TREE YOUR DOG !!!! THIS RULE SHOULD BE CHANGED!!!!

I dont understand from the original post exactly how it went down, but as a judge when the second handler said it was his dog i would have asked at that time if he was declareng his dog treed. If he did then their would be no need to run another 5. Once it was determined which dog was on the tree one handler gets minused for calling the wrong dog and the other is handled and scored.
If the second handler didnt tree his dog then the cast backs out and the judge starts the stationary until the dog is declared treed and the 5 is run.

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John, in the original post, there is no mention of the dogs actual handler ever treeing his dog. I think Allen answer the question in that context.

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Originally posted by JiM
John, in the original post, there is no mention of the dogs actual handler ever treeing his dog. I think Allen answer the question in that context.

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Originally posted by JiM
John, in the original post, there is no mention of the dogs actual handler ever treeing his dog. I think Allen answer the question in that context.

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Originally posted by hound of homer
i know what the rule say s a bout runing the 5 again , but this handler gets screwed by this rule "as i did" when you have all ready run the 5, closed the tree reopend the tree and the other dogs came in on the "26minutes" after the first 5 was up "walking to the tree and finding the rule for the real smart one who dont have enough common sence to read them at home in there spare time, the same ones who said two handlers cant tree the one dog thats treeing " so ukc rules say lets punish the dog who treed the coon for 30 minutes by its self and the handler who knows his dog and the rules!!!! THATS WHY YOU MUST GO AHEAD AND TREE YOUR DOG !!!! THIS RULE SHOULD BE CHANGED!!!!

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The only way the handler gets &&&& is by doing it to himself for not calling his dog? There's no rule to change homer.

it is up to the handler

if you tree in right now and say no way that is my dog will you get 125 or 75 on tree when you get there and only find one dog treed?


you will get 75 because you cant prove that the other dog was called incorrectly you now assume he left the tree.


or you wait until you see that it is the wrong dog, tree your dog for 125 and wait the extra 5

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I have been in a cast where one dog trees and 2 handlers both claim the same dog. They both treed their dog. On the way to the tree another dog comes in and starts treeing. Then both handlers claim that the other mans dog was the second one to come in. It was a mess.

One dog treeing. A handler calls dog treed. I told the judge I realize there's only one dog treeing but I'm calling mine as well. Arrive at the tree and still only one of the two there. Possum in the tree!

True story. Unfortunately, it was mine that got scratched but worth the chuckle considering the convincing lengths some will go to before arriving at the tree.

A fella struck his dog 50yards in front of us and down the hill( I was judging LOL) I spoke up an said it was my dog and stuck mine. After a few seconds of debate I said lets go, still only 1dog barking. Hurried over to the hill knowing I had this guy minused , looked over the hill Well lets say it wasn't blue! Turned to the fella and compemented his dog for having a good mouth and took my minuse. Sometimes **** happens LOL