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Posted by Tbaker on 07-08-2014 01:56 PM:

Social Media and Hunt Scores ?

Would a cast score being posted on a social media site before deadline of the hunt be a "scratch that dog" offense ?

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Posted by Tbaker on 07-08-2014 03:38 PM:

WOW-

no replies from the hunters? MOH's ?? UKC Reps ??

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Posted by mudcreek on 07-08-2014 04:20 PM:

Common sense tells me it would be no different then a cell phone call.

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Posted by pttm08 on 07-08-2014 04:29 PM:

Hunt some however my personal opinion for what it is worst yes it is. No different than text or calling someone with the information.

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Posted by pigsit on 07-08-2014 05:36 PM:

If it ain't, it should be. Tom

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Posted by Allen / UKC on 07-08-2014 08:34 PM:

Re: Social Media and Hunt Scores ?

quote:
Originally posted by Tbaker
Would a cast score being posted on a social media site before deadline of the hunt be a "scratch that dog" offense ?

No it would not be a "scratch that dog offense". Not where the club or event officials are concerned. However, any phone calls, electronic messaging, posting on social media sites, etc., with reference to scores does in fact violate UKC's Cell Phone Policy. Any such allegations should be reported to UKC as a Misconduct. UKC will review and take action as deemed necessary. If found that such communications had an affect on the integrity of the hunt UKC would revoke any such wins or placements.

POLICY - For the sake of protecting the integrity of the hunt, scores are to be kept confidential until all casts have returned or until the deadline has expired. Individuals found to be in violation of this policy are subject to sanctions by the UKC.

This policy does not include hunters discussing their scores amongst themselves at the clubhouse after returning from the hunt.

Posted by brujan182 on 07-08-2014 09:06 PM:

Re: Re: Social Media and Hunt Scores ?

quote:
Originally posted by Allen / UKC
No it would not be a "scratch that dog offense". Not where the club or event officials are concerned. However, any phone calls, electronic messaging, posting on social media sites, etc., with reference to scores does in fact violate UKC's Cell Phone Policy. Any such allegations should be reported to UKC as a Misconduct. UKC will review and take action as deemed necessary. If found that such communications had an affect on the integrity of the hunt UKC would revoke any such wins or placements.

POLICY - For the sake of protecting the integrity of the hunt, scores are to be kept confidential until all casts have returned or until the deadline has expired. Individuals found to be in violation of this policy are subject to sanctions by the UKC.

This policy does not include hunters discussing their scores amongst themselves at the clubhouse after returning from the hunt.

It's UKC policy that posting on social media is keeping a score confidential?

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Posted by Allen / UKC on 07-08-2014 09:56 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Social Media and Hunt Scores ?

quote:
Originally posted by brujan182
It's UKC policy that posting on social media is keeping a score confidential?

No, it is not. Just the opposite.

Posted by Buckshot on 07-08-2014 11:11 PM:

Re: Re: Social Media and Hunt Scores ?

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Originally posted by Allen / UKC

This policy does not include hunters discussing their scores amongst themselves at the clubhouse after returning from the hunt. [/B]

Allen, does that include non hunt participants hanging out at the clubhouse over hearing scores and posting them online?

Also, you do not need a cell phone to post to social media, so is that still considered Cell Phone Policy? Example would be one of the non hunt participants going home and posting scores online via computer/tablet.

Posted by Rac_sacker on 07-09-2014 12:34 AM:

Mr. Allen, How can a txt or phonecall during a cast be a way of cheating? What if its a have to take deal..like a death or wife in labor or any other long list emergency?

Thanks in advance,
RAC

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Posted by T Felderman on 07-09-2014 01:09 AM:

Re: Re: Re: Social Media and Hunt Scores ?

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Originally posted by Buckshot
Allen, does that include non hunt participants hanging out at the clubhouse over hearing scores and posting them online?

I'd say if this non hunt participant is jeopardizing the integrity of the hunt UKC and the host club would step in and take action.

I prefer posting the scores on Twitter myself

Posted by brujan182 on 07-09-2014 01:23 AM:

scratch

Allen, your first post said,<no, it would not be a scratch that dog offense. what did I not understand?

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Posted by Jackson87 on 07-09-2014 01:39 AM:

I think Allen explained it pretty clearly.What social media are they using to post scores?

Posted by Allen / UKC on 07-09-2014 03:06 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Rac_sacker
Mr. Allen, How can a txt or phonecall during a cast be a way of cheating? What if its a have to take deal..like a death or wife in labor or any other long list emergency?

Thanks in advance,
RAC

Key words: with reference to scores. That's what would make it a violation of the policy.

Posted by Allen / UKC on 07-09-2014 03:12 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Social Media and Hunt Scores ?

quote:
Originally posted by Buckshot
Allen, does that include non hunt participants hanging out at the clubhouse over hearing scores and posting them online?

Also, you do not need a cell phone to post to social media, so is that still considered Cell Phone Policy? Example would be one of the non hunt participants going home and posting scores online via computer/tablet.

1) Yes, that would include non participants publicly posting over-heard scores. Texting your score to your wife at home would not be of any concern or violate the policy.

2) Good point. Could be any device used to relay such content. We should maybe revise the "Cell Phone" part. NH Scores Confidentiality Policy?

Posted by Allen / UKC on 07-09-2014 03:16 PM:

Re: scratch

quote:
Originally posted by brujan182
Allen, your first post said,<no, it would not be a scratch that dog offense. what did I not understand?

Sorry Bruce. It's probably me that misunderstands your post.

Posted by Clif Owen on 07-10-2014 01:53 AM:

Please allow me to try my hand here...I THINK what Allen was saying is that it isn't MERELY a scratch that dog violation; but rather something more serious, which is to be handled differently.

A)..I hope that if this is the case, I have helped clear it up
B)..If I'm wrong..What are you saying??

Posted by brujan182 on 07-10-2014 02:22 AM:

Re: Re: scratch

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Originally posted by Allen / UKC
Sorry Bruce. It's probably me that misunderstands your post.

No problem Allen. Are you saying that MOH should not scratch anyone, just report it to UKC and let them handle case?

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Posted by oldsouth43 on 07-10-2014 05:11 AM:

scores

What happened to all of them HONOR RULES that they're always talking about.It's a sad thing when the hunter's and others back at the club can't even discuss the hunt and scores with each other.Let's hear some more about the HONOR part.This is a big part of the hunt and fellowship for those that like to attend and may not be able to go to the woods.And you wonder why attendance is down at the hunts.Remember when there used to be as many that came out for the fellowship and stayed at the club to visit and talk,drink coffee, eat and support the club.It was very important to them.What reason do they have to come now.And they wonder why attendance is down.

Posted by Rac_sacker on 07-10-2014 06:33 AM:

Re: scores

quote:
Originally posted by oldsouth43
What happened to all of them HONOR RULES that they're always talking about.It's a sad thing when the hunter's and others back at the club can't even discuss the hunt and scores with each other.Let's hear some more about the HONOR part.This is a big part of the hunt and fellowship for those that like to attend and may not be able to go to the woods.And you wonder why attendance is down at the hunts.Remember when there used to be as many that came out for the fellowship and stayed at the club to visit and talk,drink coffee, eat and support the club.It was very important to them.What reason do they have to come now.And they wonder why attendance is down.

Very well said. I also dont understand why scores cannot be posted/revealed. I would think that for a card to be changed, the whole cast would have to be in on it..can we not be trusted??
just my .02

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Posted by Surveyor on 07-10-2014 11:55 AM:

Sounds to me like somebody got excited and posted on face book something like "wow my dog just scored a xxx+ points in the hunt tonight" and somebody else in the hunt saw it and thought GOT YOU, I can get them scratched for that and get my dog the (undeserved) win.

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Posted by Allen / UKC on 07-10-2014 01:47 PM:

Re: Re: Re: scratch

quote:
Originally posted by brujan182
No problem Allen. Are you saying that MOH should not scratch anyone, just report it to UKC and let them handle case?

Exactly!

Posted by Allen / UKC on 07-10-2014 01:55 PM:

oldsouth43, I'm wondering if you understand the policy as intended? By your comments it seems that you might not.

I totally agree that sitting back at the clubhouse fellowshipping with other hunters and discussing scores etc. is a great thing. Nothing wrong with that and that has not changed at all!

What this policy is intended for is to not allow you to call your buddy, who is still out in the woods, to let him know that the high score for Nite Champions is 450. And that they will need to beat that score for the win.

Hope this helps to clarify.

Posted by jculler8 on 07-10-2014 02:18 PM:

If it's that enticing to post on Facebook, how hard is it to just post that your dog got another CW tonight and save the score for later? I do it all the time...

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Posted by buck brush on 07-10-2014 02:25 PM:

Re: Re: scores

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Originally posted by Rac_sacker
Very well said. I also dont understand why scores cannot be posted/revealed. I would think that for a card to be changed, the whole cast would have to be in on it..can we not be trusted??
just my .02

no it does not take the hole cast, i was at a hunt one night and the last cast came in all but 2 people in that cast came into the club house we was told by the 2 that came into the club house that they never scored a coon, a man went out side to talk to the 2 that was still out side and when they came cane in the one man won the hunt, they was told what they needed for score and they plussd point that they did not have. best part when the man turned the score card in he said to the HD that they never scored a coon.

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