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Posted by Hokieman on 06-30-2014 07:03 PM:

Trifexis KILLS YOUR DOGS!!!!

http://www.wsbtv.com/videos/news/ow...rifexis/vCKDL7/

Owners blame 700 dog deaths on Trifexis

By Jim Strickland

ATLANTA —
Channel 2 Action News has discovered the number of dog deaths pet owners blame on the popular pet medication Trifexis outnumbers the cases involving the Chinese jerky treats.

Elanco, the company that makes Trifexis, refused repeated requests from Channel 2 consumer investigator Jim Strickland to turn over its data.

Strickland filed a Freedom of Information request with the Food and Drug Administration and got the agency's data instead. It showed that since Trifexis hit the market, every 36 hours, a pet owner reported that Trifexis killed their dog.

Trifexis is the most popular flea and heartworm pill of its kind with more than 50 million doses dispensed. Most of the dogs on Trifexis are fine.

Strickland spoke to one of Elanco's top veterinarians at the company headquarters near Indianapolis less than a month ago. It was the first time the company agreed to speak on camera about the issue.

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Read the original WSB-TV investigation on Trifexis

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At the time, Dr. Stephen Connell said that Elanco just wanted to make sure the full extent of the story is known. Still, he would not divulge how many complaints of deaths and illness have come into Elanco's response center.

Elanco is required to report those complaints to the FDA. According to FDA records, pet owners have reported 700 dog deaths. That's 120 more than the deaths linked to Chinese chicken jerky treats. Like the treats, Trifexis is suspected, but not the proven cause.

Connell did tell Strickland, "Everything we have on file is within expectations. We remain convinced that the value and benefit of this product still far exceeds the rare risk of these things happening, as unfortunate as they are."

Barrow County resident Chris Smith believes wholeheartedly that Trifexis killed his dog, Kinzie.

"I tell everyone I know who has a dog, don't give them Trifexis," Smith said.

Kinzie was an agility-trained athlete. She died three hours after getting her first dose of Trifexis. A necropsy showed hemorrhaging from several organs. Read her necropsy report here.

Kinzie died in 2011, six weeks after Trifexis hit the market. Smith said he called Elanco and a representative told him Kinzie was the first dog death reported.

The FDA numbers also showed 259 of the 700 dogs that died were euthanized. That was the case with Hall County resident Beth Timms' dog, Gizmo, earlier this year.

"Her fever had gotten to 106. They had to give her an ice bath. (The vet) said, 'We need to make a decision, nothing we're doing is working,'" Timms said. "We had to let her go. We had to have her put to sleep."

The FDA website still only posts 31 deaths, the number Strickland originally reported. Strickland learned that number only included complaints mailed to the FDA, and not any emailed complaints.

Complaints filed on paper include 48 deaths.

A FDA spokesperson told Strickland the agency hasn't updated the numbers, because it is updating systems.

The new numbers also show a huge jump in the cases of dogs reported sick after taking Trifexis.

Forsyth County resident Amy Thornton's dog Ivan is one of them. She gave the pug two doses of Trifexis and didn't have any problems.

Thornton said it was after the third dose that Ivan lost control of his back legs. She took video of it to share with her vet.

"Exactly six hours after I gave it to him, he started acting really weird, lethargic," Thornton said. "I was scared to death. I thought he was dying that night."

The FDA numbers posted online for lethargy is just above 600. The updated number Strickland got from the agency showed it's actually nearly 8,000. The numbers on the web for vomiting is at 2,200. Updated figures revealed it's closer to 30,000.

"We have not been able to identify with all of these reports any specific trends we can link directly to the use of this product," Connell told Strickland last month. "That said, it is an ongoing evaluation that we do and we feel it is our responsibility."

After Strickland's initial report three weeks ago, the Georgia Veterinary Association released a statement saying news reports like this show how important it is for pet owners to talk to their vets and discuss their options.

Every vet Strickland spoke to stressed the importance of heartworm prevention, and urged pet owners not to boycott the drugs altogether.

Watch for updates on this story coming up on Channel 2 Action News beginning at 5.

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Posted by blackflagginit on 06-30-2014 08:39 PM:

I wonder if there is any link between the breeds of the dogs affected.......like collies and ivomec????

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Posted by bgs2009 on 06-30-2014 11:28 PM:

Just started mine on trifexis last week. Can you easily switch to another preventative? Bad thing is I just got a 6 month supply for 4 dogs.

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Posted by GA DAWG on 07-01-2014 12:01 AM:

Thats right here at the house and I aint even heard of it. I may send out a mass text to all my coon club members to tell them.

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Posted by Cleo on 07-01-2014 11:43 AM:

Think about that.....your putting poision in your dog to kill fleas and ticks and parasites. My husband sprays our yard with stuff to kill the exact same things. The bottle has warning lables a mile long on it to keep pets and kids away.

I am so sorry for ppl who lost their dogs.

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Posted by Cleo on 07-01-2014 11:45 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by bgs2009
Just started mine on trifexis last week. Can you easily switch to another preventative? Bad thing is I just got a 6 month supply for 4 dogs.

Try to return it....even if you can swap it out for feed or maybe something else you need. That stuff is expensive!

Posted by bgs2009 on 07-01-2014 03:36 PM:

Been doing a little research on it and have come to think that 700 dogs out of 50 million doses is not something to worry about. I would expect that number to be higher just from natural causes which could easily be what all of those cases are about. Sometimes social media can be very tempting to believe but it may have just started with someone wanting to blame something. I am still concerned enough to keep in tune with new findings about it but for now maybe its ok.........

Stand alot greater chance of them getting heartworms if not on something. Not long ago i brought a dog from south carolina to my kennels that had not been on preventative. Talk about a scare....

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Posted by Cleo on 07-01-2014 07:18 PM:

My vet said the same thing! She asked if the dogs that had died were given meds from a vet or if they were purchased at an online discount pet med store. Theres a reason they are discounted!

Posted by Hokieman on 07-02-2014 02:15 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by bgs2009
Been doing a little research on it and have come to think that 700 dogs out of 50 million doses is not something to worry about. I would expect that number to be higher just from natural causes which could easily be what all of those cases are about. Sometimes social media can be very tempting to believe but it may have just started with someone wanting to blame something. I am still concerned enough to keep in tune with new findings about it but for now maybe its ok.........

Stand alot greater chance of them getting heartworms if not on something. Not long ago i brought a dog from south carolina to my kennels that had not been on preventative. Talk about a scare....

Lets hope your family pet or high priced coon dog isn't a statistics.

Posted by AngelOfDeath on 07-02-2014 05:51 AM:

quote:
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My vet said the same thing! She asked if the dogs that had died were given meds from a vet or if they were purchased at an online discount pet med store. Theres a reason they are discounted!

I really doubt there is that much difference other then the price in the exact same meds from a vet and from a online store.I've bought my heartworm pills online for years.Never once had a problem with them.Why pay more for the exact same thing from a vet when I can get them online for 2/3's the cost of what they cost at the vet? My opinion some vets tell you that crap just to get you to spend more money by getting them from the vet.Specially since my vets have always told me I can get the exact same thing online as I can from them and save money.

Posted by Ray Walburn on 07-02-2014 07:33 AM:

been using it for a few years now with no problems .

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Posted by brandon little on 07-02-2014 08:14 AM:

I just gave one to my dog a month ago and no problem

Posted by rthompson on 07-06-2014 03:55 AM:

I gave it to my hound for a yr 1/2 no problems

Posted by david r on 07-06-2014 11:39 AM:

My vet believes it is what made Trouble go sterile.

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Posted by rowdyhound on 07-06-2014 06:28 PM:

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My vet believes it is what made Trouble go sterile.

One of mine had a low count he was on Trifexis.....I stopped using it, made a couple of mine just not be themselves after they took it. Have one with kidney issues at the moment and I'm not ruling out the cause may have been the several years he was on trifexis...

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Posted by Fisher13 on 07-06-2014 09:16 PM:

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My vet said the same thing! She asked if the dogs that had died were given meds from a vet or if they were purchased at an online discount pet med store. Theres a reason they are discounted!

Every vet will say this is, they are also running a business and being vet see and hear more horror stories then the average person. Most heartworm preventives have several years before they expire and are fine being kept at room temp. Vaccines are a different story.

You should know what your putting in your dogs, and the going market rate. Heartworm preventive is more expensive in the states due to the fact you need a script to purchase. I buy all my meds that can be stored at room temps from Australia. They are always well within the expiration, arrive on time, and purchased for 40 to 60% less. Best of all no scripts are required.

All flea and tick, heartworm preventives are toxins and are associated with some risks. I always wear gloves when administering topical applications.

Posted by Fisher13 on 07-06-2014 09:19 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by bgs2009
Been doing a little research on it and have come to think that 700 dogs out of 50 million doses is not something to worry about. I would expect that number to be higher just from natural causes which could easily be what all of those cases are about. Sometimes social media can be very tempting to believe but it may have just started with someone wanting to blame something. I am still concerned enough to keep in tune with new findings about it but for now maybe its ok.........

Stand alot greater chance of them getting heartworms if not on something. Not long ago i brought a dog from south carolina to my kennels that had not been on preventative. Talk about a scare....

Even if the odds are not great, negative side effects should be known to the public and the company needs to be transparent about it. I doubt they are.

Posted by rthompson on 07-06-2014 10:28 PM:

So what this means is that .00001% of the dogs that were on trifexis died

Posted by MIKE CARDER on 07-07-2014 03:40 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by rthompson
So what this means is that .00001% of the dogs that were on trifexis died

There were 50 million doses sold. Some people could have bought 12 doses or even more. Who knows how many dogs were treated.
Side effects should be printed!

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Posted by Cleo on 07-07-2014 12:17 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Fisher13
Every vet will say this is, they are also running a business and being vet see and hear more horror stories then the average person. Most heartworm preventives have several years before they expire and are fine being kept at room temp. Vaccines are a different story.

You should know what your putting in your dogs, and the going market rate. Heartworm preventive is more expensive in the states due to the fact you need a script to purchase. I buy all my meds that can be stored at room temps from Australia. They are always well within the expiration, arrive on time, and purchased for 40 to 60% less. Best of all no scripts are required.

All flea and tick, heartworm preventives are toxins and are associated with some risks. I always wear gloves when administering topical applications.

Your probably right.
Its still a very powerful drug in my opinion.

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