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Posted by Okie Hunter on 06-13-2014 10:31 PM:

What's your system on finding summertime coon?

Okay, I'll admit it. I am the WORLD'S WORST at locating coon in big bushy trees in the summer. The number of coon I haven't scored because I couldn't find them has cost me quite a few wins over the years. So, I will put it out there... what is your system for finding these coon?

I start with a red lens on the lowest setting on my Bright Eyes light trying to get the coon to look while I blow a "2 Lookin Down" coon squaller. If that doesn't work, I burn the tree up on the lights highest setting trying to find a body.

Case in point. I was pleasure hunting last night by myself when my old dog drove a hot track into a fairly large red oak tree. I shined that tree for ten minutes with the red lens trying to get that coon to look following that up with the bright light trying to find a body. Neither worked. I never did find that coon and feel sure he had him. My dog is pretty accurate especially when he drives a track and rolls it over on tree.

It seems like some people are naturals at finding coon in the summer, while some hunters, like me, struggle. So, what's your secret to finding them?

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Posted by Josh Michaelis on 06-13-2014 10:37 PM:

Re: What's your system on finding summertime coon?

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Originally posted by Okie Hunter
Okay, I'll admit it. I am the WORLD'S WORST at locating coon in big bushy trees in the summer. The number of coon I haven't scored because I couldn't find them has cost me quite a few wins over the years. So, I will put it out there... what is your system for finding these coon?

I start with a red lens on the lowest setting on my Bright Eyes light trying to get the coon to look while I blow a "2 Lookin Down" coon squaller. If that doesn't work, I burn the tree up on the lights highest setting trying to find a body.

Case in point. I was pleasure hunting last night by myself when my old dog drove a hot track into a fairly large red oak tree. I shined that tree for ten minutes with the red lens trying to get that coon to look following that up with the bright light trying to find a body. Neither worked. I never did find that coon and feel sure he had him. My dog is pretty accurate especially when he drives a track and rolls it over on tree.

It seems like some people are naturals at finding coon in the summer, while some hunters, like me, struggle. So, what's your secret to finding them?

Here is what I do

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Posted by POTOMAC on 06-14-2014 01:57 AM:

Josh has a great squaller and that's a good start but I'm not the best either but with the chatterbox ,boss triple threat with the red led and another thing I do here is try to get the dogs off the tree and if someone is with me get them to take dogs away and get them quiet and a lot of times they will look then but I don't think there is any one answer to your question that will work 100% of the time !! I keep hoping practice will get better but also I have caught myself looking so hard in the winter and actually looking rite by the coon amd have concentrated somuch on the tree base and then found them out onthe end of a limb!! You never know I just try to flood it at first and low all the way around if I can and then once I decide to go to the bright light I start at base and go up and Chkc every limb I can all the way out and then go to the next!!! Good luck but a good start would be the new squaller josh is making!!

Posted by rockett42 on 06-14-2014 02:13 AM:

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Posted by croatankid on 06-14-2014 02:37 AM:

it's really hard for me to see the coons too. i think not being able to see colors well is a handicap too. it's so thick many places that i start by cutting all the little trees down around the coon tree so that i can see the coon tree. i use one of those prunning saws to clear it out a little so that i can move around and see the tree. then i look at the tree, give up and go home.

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Posted by cartwright on 06-14-2014 03:02 AM:

Another tip but not always an option. Look into the tree instead of up the tree. Always walk into the tree with the lowest light possible and ask the other cast members to do the same and always use the lowest light in the first 2 mins. On a nite hunt if you got first tree always take advantage of that 1st 2 min rule especially if you're winning your cast. So many guys immediately light it up full power. Which usually makes it a disadvantage to finding the coon. Another thing to remember they don't always climb high either I have seen several on the 1st limb. I have clapped my hands before beat on the tree with a rock or a stick of course in the last 2 mins of shine time. Keeping the hounds quite really works. How may times have you used your full shine time and walk away and look back and BAM they it is looking right at you? And probably laughing lol... So remember SILENCE works! I have also looked back and the coon would be climbing back out of the tree. But unfortunately we won't see them all no matter what we do or try !

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Posted by buck brush on 06-14-2014 04:00 AM:

i start at the base of the tree and move my light up the tree with it on dim and l look at the top of my light not in the center a lot of times you will see them looking at the shadow of your light

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Posted by RAT Mafia on 06-14-2014 04:06 AM:

Not trying to be a smart arsh but finding coon this time of year is easy when the meat is there. Most of the time they are looking right at you.

Posted by SFWALKER on 06-14-2014 05:44 AM:

I have places I hunt that a coon will never look at you. Absolutely. Never. Winter, spring, summer, squaller, no squaller, red lens, neon pink lens, black dog, walker dog, poodle... You simply have to find them. And i do find them, they just dont look. I can go to another block of woods ten miles away, walk in with the bright light burning the tree up and those coons look literally 9 out of 10 times, and will stare at a bright light until their their retinas catch on fire. Can't explain it. And believe it or not, it seems the places that they look good actually get hunted more. I stopped trying to figure it out lol

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Posted by Charles Pullen on 06-14-2014 07:09 AM:

Find the best place to shine 1st , with a low light tap on the tree . But if he won't look then you probably won't find him .

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Posted by hootowlman on 06-14-2014 07:29 AM:

99% of the time I find them going in to the tree or get back and shine the tree pretty good. I have found a many during the summer by beating on the tree with a big rock. But sometimes they just flat will not look. I got one to look at me tonight with my new Chatterbox coon squaller also.

Posted by skeets on 06-14-2014 10:28 AM:

i squall with my mouth,for me it works a lot better then any squaller i ever used.i get back as far from the tree as i can and still have a good view of the tree,i go to squalling and if no eyeballs,iam starting to doubt my dog.others things ive done or seen other people do to make a coon look is to hit the tree with a club or rock,shake a vine in the tree if theres one there,stomp there feet while squalling or clap their hands real loud.strikeing a carbide light while u been holding the gas around the reflector works good.

Posted by Ron Ashbaugh on 06-14-2014 12:43 PM:

I usually cover my light with my hand the last 40 yards to the tree. When I am ready to shine I keep my hand over the lense and flutter it so it is like a flicker switch. That with a little squalling will usually get a look....if not, just work the tree over and move around the tree.

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Posted by myhosss on 06-14-2014 01:26 PM:

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Posted by kycooner1 on 06-14-2014 02:52 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by cartwright
Another tip but not always an option. Look into the tree instead of up the tree. Always walk into the tree with the lowest light possible and ask the other cast members to do the same and always use the lowest light in the first 2 mins. On a nite hunt if you got first tree always take advantage of that 1st 2 min rule especially if you're winning your cast. So many guys immediately light it up full power. Which usually makes it a disadvantage to finding the coon. Another thing to remember they don't always climb high either I have seen several on the 1st limb. I have clapped my hands before beat on the tree with a rock or a stick of course in the last 2 mins of shine time. Keeping the hounds quite really works. How may times have you used your full shine time and walk away and look back and BAM they it is looking right at you? And probably laughing lol... So remember SILENCE works! I have also looked back and the coon would be climbing back out of the tree. But unfortunately we won't see them all no matter what we do or try !

Great post!!!

If youe walking into the tree and Shining it on the way end is a SCRATCH offense,,You have 10 minutes to shine once dogs are handeled

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Posted by cartwright on 06-14-2014 03:35 PM:

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If youe walking into the tree and Shining it on the way end is a SCRATCH offense,,You have 10 minutes to shine once dogs are handeled

Read what I said... I said walk into the tree I didn't say I was shining the tree on the way to the tree. My reason for this is walking into the tree with a bright light can also work as a disadvantage of finding the coon when you start looking into the tree once that moment comes. Handler�s that really know their hound's usually know if it is slick or not before ever getting to the tree.

Posted by ole hoss on 06-14-2014 04:17 PM:

i just leash my dog up and pet him and say good boy!! dont have to look cause i know hes up their!! lol no since in me lookin cause i cant find him anyway. i can shine for a hour and never find him. my dad can walk in and find him in 3 mins!!! ill never understand it!

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Posted by Aaron R Gamble on 06-14-2014 04:24 PM:

First step to finding a coon is it has to be there it's not that hard when there there

Posted by Okie Hunter on 06-14-2014 06:19 PM:

Thanks for all the replies. Keep them coming as I am taking notes. This is one part of my competition hunting I want to improve.

I have a case in point for you.

I was at a UKC hunt last night and my dog gets hooked by himself with ten minutes to go. If I find the coon, I win the cast. I get there and am trying my best to find this coon but am not having any luck finding him the first five minutes of shining time. Thankfully, one of the handlers in the cast locates his body in the very top of the tree and shows the cast. Once located, we blew the guts out of those squallers and couldn't get that coon to flinch. He wasn't going to move and he sure wasn't going to look.

That coon allowed me to win the cast and finish my dog to Grand Nite. I would like to thank Mr. Jason Lee for having the sportsmanship of finding this coon and showing it to the rest of the cast. It would be great if all hunters were good sports like that.

Posted by Kyle Bragg on 06-14-2014 06:32 PM:

Here's my two cents. I agree it's gotto be there and I agree with a dim light. I'd I shine a write light in your face you won't look. But I don't agree red makes I'm look I think his eyes stand out more. Good squaller and a dim red light. If he is there you won't miss him. I'm waiting to try a chattetbox.

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Posted by glynnsdawgs63 on 06-14-2014 07:44 PM:

a dim light and an accurate dog.

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Posted by perry co cooner on 06-14-2014 07:57 PM:

I'm sure I'm in the minority but I burn the top out of the tree and the majority of the time I'll find him if the dog did its job correctly.

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Posted by pigsit on 06-14-2014 08:33 PM:

Freddy, congratulations on finishing your dog. You know coons are kind of like dogs, they're all different; some look easy and some never do. I've used all kinds of squallers and the one I like best is one Mark Zepp sells. I've been squalling a tree and a coon run into the tree from some wheres else wanting to fight; had this happen on several separate occasions. Personally, I like to tie the dogs and back as far out from the tree as possible and shine from there; I'lll ook that side of the tree over pretty good and then change to the opposite side. I usually use an orange or blue pop cover, had success and failure with both; if the tree is against the creek; I usually try to get across and shine from the creek side. Good Luck, Tom.

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Posted by Jackson87 on 06-14-2014 09:24 PM:

Here they have not been looking much at all.Been having to look up the base of the tree to find there body.Some will look for a second on the way into the tree and then after we lead the dogs away.You guys can talk all that talk bout then being easy to find if their there but I know better.

Posted by wvbushwacker on 06-14-2014 10:15 PM:

If you've never had trouble finding a coon then you haven't coon hunted very much.

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