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Posted by Double U on 06-12-2014 02:42 PM:

Garmin Announces New Astro and Alpha Systems

These collars Work on both the Astro and Alpha.

The T5 Tracking collar will be available individually for $249.99 or can be bundled with a Astro 320 T5 Bundle for 599.99.

You can purchase the Garmin TT15 individually for 299.99, or bundled in the Alpha 100 TT15 combo package for 799.99.

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Posted by juddman on 06-12-2014 07:35 PM:

Wat is the difference between the t5 and the dc 50 on a 320 astro?

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Posted by hootowlman on 06-12-2014 07:44 PM:

From what I read the only difference is the t5 does not have the bark detection feature everything else is the same and it can also be used with the alpha where the dc 50 is not compatible with the alpa. So it can be used in the comp hunts.

Posted by wvbushwacker on 06-12-2014 07:53 PM:

It looks like the t5 has more satelites it can get a signal from. So should get out alittle better than the dc 50.

Just re read the article. The dc50 tracks the same number of satellites. So only difference must be the bark detection.

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Posted by Double U on 06-12-2014 08:27 PM:

The Main Difference bettween the T5 and DC50.

The T5 does not have bark detection, and the T5 can be paired with Either the Alpha Or the Astro 320.

The Reason the T5 does not have these features was to align with competition rules.

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Posted by CCB2012 on 06-12-2014 08:41 PM:

Now everyone can stop bitching about not being able to carry their Alpha now.

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Posted by jculler8 on 06-12-2014 09:20 PM:

TT15 can be paired with both the Alpha and 320 as you can read. My question is will you be able to shock with the 320 TT15 pair? If so, what will UKC's stance be?

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Posted by Allen / UKC on 06-12-2014 09:34 PM:

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Originally posted by jculler8
TT15 can be paired with both the Alpha and 320 as you can read. My question is will you be able to shock with the 320 TT15 pair? If so, what will UKC's stance be?

Any handheld capable of controlling................ you know the rest of the story.

Posted by cedarhillkennel on 06-12-2014 09:47 PM:

i dont think the 320 has a "shock" button so i dont believe a 320 can activate the shock function of the tt15, but i could be wrong

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Posted by hootowlman on 06-12-2014 10:08 PM:

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Originally posted by jculler8
TT15 can be paired with both the Alpha and 320 as you can read. My question is will you be able to shock with the 320 TT15 pair? If so, what will UKC's stance be?

If you read the article it says the 320 will track the tt15 with an update, The TT15 has a tone, shock and vibrate and says (ALPHA 100 ONLY) So you can track it with either system but you can't shock with the 320...........If you could why would anyone pay $200 more for the Alpha??????????? So I don't for see it ever happening.

Posted by kycooner1 on 06-12-2014 10:24 PM:

One simple Question,,,Can you get this collar and use The Alpa in a Hunt?

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Posted by hootowlman on 06-12-2014 10:33 PM:

The tt15 no because it can still shock but the T5 they put out also YES because it can be used on the alpha and has no shock feature on it.

Posted by center12 on 06-12-2014 11:02 PM:

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Originally posted by kycooner1
One simple Question,,,Can you get this collar and use The Alpa in a Hunt?

Yes, see the "sticky" at the top of the page.

Don't like having to spend more money, but it's a lot cheaper than a whole 320 system......I'll be a buyer.

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Posted by T Burton on 06-12-2014 11:58 PM:

Question who's gonna be the collar police to make sure if the alpha is being used in hunts which collar they have on there dog I'm sure one of those good ol' cheaters will ruin it for every one best I can tell is if what you are useing on your dog has anything to do with a shocker you probly will not be able to use it

Posted by JiM on 06-13-2014 12:26 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by T Burton
Question who's gonna be the collar police to make sure if the alpha is being used in hunts which collar they have on there dog I'm sure one of those good ol' cheaters will ruin it for every one best I can tell is if what you are useing on your dog has anything to do with a shocker you probly will not be able to use it

I think we are all the collar police. It's just this simple, using a training device (shocker) during the hunt is a barring offense and I'm confident that anyone found to have used it will, in fact, get barred. Cheaters will cheat. It is up the the rest of us pay attention, watch the untrustworthy, and follow every last stinking procedure nessesary to get them gone when they do cheat.

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Posted by HOBO on 06-13-2014 12:35 AM:

Read this thread before you start worrying over who's gonna police who....

http://forums.ukcdogs.com/showthrea...eadid=928378954

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Posted by cedarhillkennel on 06-13-2014 02:48 AM:

my question is who here has used/tested em. i want to pre-order a few tt5's for my bear dogs but would like to hear any input from those that have used one. im sure someone has

Posted by Mark Zepp on 06-13-2014 12:46 PM:

The T5 does not stim or tone with an Alpha.

The T5 does not stim or tone on an Astro.

The T5 has lights on the collar that can be turned on and off from a distance on the Alpha.

The T5 has lights (the DC50 did not) that can be turned on and off at the tail gait or in very short proximity to the 320.

The TT15 will stim and tone with an Alpha.

The TT15 can be used with an Astro but does not stim or tone.

The new T5 and TT15 will be compatible with either the Astro or the Alpha, but the user must choose which handheld you want to pair/match them with. If your buddy has a T5/TT15 and is using it on his Astro, you will not be able to "see it" if you own an Alpha and vice versa.

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Posted by walkerdogman85 on 06-13-2014 01:54 PM:

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Now everyone can stop bitching about not being able to carry their Alpha now.

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Posted by deadeye ruck on 06-13-2014 08:27 PM:

I quickly glanced at the specs but couldn't find what I needed.

What is the difference between the current TT10 and the new TT15 besides the presumable ability to change frequency?

Looks like I'll finally be upgrading to the alpha.

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Posted by john Duemmer on 06-13-2014 08:42 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Mark Zepp
The T5 does not stim or tone with an Alpha.

The T5 does not stim or tone on an Astro.

The T5 has lights on the collar that can be turned on and off from a distance on the Alpha.

The T5 has lights (the DC50 did not) that can be turned on and off at the tail gait or in very short proximity to the 320.

The TT15 will stim and tone with an Alpha.

The TT15 can be used with an Astro but does not stim or tone.

The new T5 and TT15 will be compatible with either the Astro or the Alpha, but the user must choose which handheld you want to pair/match them with. If your buddy has a T5/TT15 and is using it on his Astro, you will not be able to "see it" if you own an Alpha and vice versa.

I was excited about the new collars until i read the last part of your post.
Some of my huntin buddies have astros and some alphas, we were looking forward to being able to track eachothers dogs again. Oh well.

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Posted by JiM on 06-13-2014 09:40 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by john Duemmer
I was excited about the new collars until i read the last part of your post.
Some of my huntin buddies have astros and some alphas, we were looking forward to being able to track eachothers dogs again. Oh well.

Same here. There must be some major technological hurdle to being able to track the same collar with both. I'm sure Garmin would like us to be able to do that.

Posted by kycooner1 on 06-13-2014 09:49 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by JiM
Same here. There must be some major technological hurdle to being able to track the same collar with both. I'm sure Garmin would like us to be able to do that.

It will be good for 320 owners ,,so later if they upgrade to a alpa ,,they will be comp..ready keeping there T5 collar

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