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2 dog cast, Dog A struck Dog B struck. Dog A is treed Dog B is treed. Cast starts to tree and Dog A is heard way left of tree and is minused. cast continues to tree. before cast is close to tree Dog A is declared treed again. cast arrives to tree to find both dogs treeing on same tree. tree is scored as minus. what do dog A and B have for points after this drop?

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i think

dog A would have 275- and dog B would have 150-. not sure of the whole scenario though

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Dog A 350- and dog B 150-

I say dog A gets minused on the second tree 125 instead of 50 because if you tree on a closed tree the dog goes in for 125. Correct?

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A=350 minus
B=150minus

A gets 125 minus for leaveing,and is then retreed for 125 as split because the tree was closed, and 100 strike points.

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how about

a=-400
b=-150

dog a -125 leaving tree rule 4I.

dog a -125 dog is on closed tree when judge arrives rule 4L.

dog a -50 tree and -100 strike dog treeing but not declared treed when judge arrives rule 4K.

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Re: how about

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Originally posted by runnin rebels
a=-400
b=-150

dog a -125 leaving tree rule 4I.

dog a -125 dog is on closed tree when judge arrives rule 4L.

dog a -50 tree and -100 strike dog treeing but not declared treed when judge arrives rule 4K.

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Originally posted by prostockpat
I agree on dog A,but wouldn't dog B get -75{2nd strike} and -125 {because of split tree}?
-350 dog A
-200 dog B??

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Re: Re: how about

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Originally posted by john Duemmer
Reread your last sentence "treeing but not declared treed"
The dog HAD been declared treed.
No additional 50 tree points.

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A gets to go home early and B hunts the rest by himself A 425 minus and B 200 minus this is all assuming B's tree was his original tree and was way left handed of A's original tree That part isn't clear to me

Re: Re: Re: how about

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Originally posted by runnin rebels
Watch Your Step
Posted on 04/02/2012 in The Coonhound Advisor.

http://www.ukcdogs.com/Web.nsf/Arti...&article=CA

John read this and see if you change your mind

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man im glad some people that know what they are talking about got this one wrong i was starting to feel bad about myself

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Wow ... Dog A would get 125minus for leaving ... When he was re treed he would get 125 but that would be deleted when u seen he was back on same tree.... He would then get his strike 100 and next available tree 50 minus cause its slick... Dog b would be minus strike and tree.., 150

Dog a 275 minus
Dog b 150 minus.

Pretty sure this is right

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Originally posted by terno
Wow ... Dog A would get 125minus for leaving ... When he was re treed he would get 125 but that would be deleted when u seen he was back on same tree.... He would then get his strike 100 and next available tree 50 minus cause its slick... Dog b would be minus strike and tree.., 150

Dog a 275 minus
Dog b 150 minus.

Pretty sure this is right

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dog a

Dog a 100- strike 125-tree retree -50
Dog a 275-
Dog b -75 strike -75 tree
Dog b 150-

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Originally posted by patches9452
why would tree points ever be deleted for a dog call treed unless he had caught a coon without a place of refuge. He gets his first 125 for leaving minused he gets another 125 for being split treed when he wasn't minused and the awarded 75 for next available and minused plus his track minus. Early trip home

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Re: Re: Re: how about

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Originally posted by runnin rebels
Watch Your Step
Posted on 04/02/2012 in The Coonhound Advisor.

http://www.ukcdogs.com/Web.nsf/Arti...&article=CA

John read this and see if you change your mind

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It doesn't matter how you score it. Dog A might as well quit and go home. It just wasn't his night. I hope that Dog A's handler learned a valuable lesson...in a 2 dog cast, don't tree your dog on a closed tree. And you don't need an Advisor to know that.

2 dog cast, Dog A struck 100 Dog B struck 75. Dog A is treed 125 Dog B is treed 75. TREE IS NOW CLOSED. Cast starts to tree and Dog A is heard way left of tree and is minused. MINUS 125 FOR LEAVING TREE. RULE 4 I. cast continues to tree. before cast is close to tree Dog A is declared treed again. 125 WRITTEN ON CARD. RULE 4L. cast arrives to tree to find both dogs treeing on same tree. DOG A IS MINUSED 125. RULE 4L. tree is scored as minus. DOG A IS ASSIGNED NEXT AVAILABLE TREE 50 AND MINUSED ON TREE AND MINUSED 100 ON STRIKE. RULE 4K.

DOG A = -400
DOG B = -150


the all caps statements were added to the original post as scoring would be applied during the hunt

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I hunt more PKC than I do UKC. But when both dogs were declared treed wouldnt this mean trees are CLOSED? This means that if dog A re trees with Dog B then Dog A has to go in for 125 points because he is treeing on a Closed tree same difference if the 5 minutes up on the tree. Has anybody considered this or am I off base here?

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Originally posted by terno
They were never declared split the second time the dog was treed from the original post....

I don't see how you figure all this based on the rule book... I have read it over an over and don't see where you are finding this

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So if a dog is treed way through the country and the 5 is up.. Then a man here's his dog in that direction an trees... I understand that he goes in for 125 but when cast arrives an see that they are on the same tree his tree points are deleted and his strike point are determined by the scoring of the tree... Right? He don't get 125 minus just because the tree was closed

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Originally posted by terno
So if a dog is treed way through the country and the 5 is up.. Then a man here's his dog in that direction an trees... I understand that he goes in for 125 but when cast arrives an see that they are on the same tree his tree points are deleted and his strike point are determined by the scoring of the tree... Right? He don't get 125 minus just because the tree was closed

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Would love to hear an official answer... This is a good topic .... Don't care if I'm wrong or right just want to know the correct way

runnin rebels you are exactly right..


terno.. yes any time a dog is treed after the 5 is up on tree he gets 125 an if he is on closed tree those points are minused...

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