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Posted by ga walker man on 04-09-2014 05:59 PM:

Mojo

What is everyone's opinion on Mojo dogs? Good and bad.


Posted by Davebrott on 04-09-2014 07:04 PM:

Mojo

I like mine. Smart good mouth not a total loner but will get to her self and has a coon high % of time.


Posted by Jordan120 on 04-09-2014 10:03 PM:

The ones I've hunted with IN MY OPINION wasnt worth a dime

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Posted by Nova70 on 04-10-2014 02:30 PM:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jordan120
The ones I've hunted with IN MY OPINION wasnt worth a dime [/QUOTE ] ×2 they was automatic strike dogs babbled all night just idiots hunted with around 15 of them there is a hunter on here that has one for sale he describes the dog very well he says the same thing about the hound he has for sale know there is bad in every bloodline and I have owned quite a few bad ones if I had to hunt a MOJO dog I would quit hunting and I have been hunting for 33 years good luck to you


Posted by Jordan120 on 04-10-2014 02:41 PM:

Also the ones I hunted with never shut up from the time they was turned loose till they treed.

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Posted by gettinhooked on 04-10-2014 04:02 PM:

Mojo

I have a 3 yr old that's been treeing his own coon since 7 months old. Super nice hound. Big mouth, big motor, accurate as anything and a blow dwn tree dog. BUT hez double Cowee Creek Clint on the bottom side. And I love the Clint hounds. He threw old style COONDOGS that treed real live coon. Hound I have is real sneaky about slippin away from dogs an just getting treed with the meat. Mojo an Clint were both good for that. Good ones an bad ones outa any stud. Ya got rat haters mojo haters lipper haters. All threw some good ones. And a lot of bad ones. The gyp counts in my opinion more than most wanna admit. JMHO


Posted by David Webb on 04-10-2014 04:06 PM:

Mojo

Just wondering if you guys have been beat by a Mojo dog
I know l have
Yes,
some of them bark more than some people, including me, like, BUT;
If you want to win in competition, you better get you some
Mojo has won sire awards & is on numerous top ten lists right now
Check out the big & small hunts in all the kennel clubs & see who's in the winner circles

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Posted by gettinhooked on 04-10-2014 05:05 PM:

Mojo

Lol I have! Mojo beat me two nights at the summer madness Absolute coondog ! Drew a couple young dogs outa him that looked good! One was a lil mouthy one was tight on ground. Bred to him after Clint died. Hound I have is only pup that lived female cnt have pups now. It's a shame hez nice. Makes a guy wonder what if the rest woulda made it.


Posted by dbpro56 on 04-10-2014 05:59 PM:

Wow, that's amazing that one guy has hunted with 15 dogs out of Mojo, and didn't like any of them! It seems a bunch of dogs out of Mojo have won some major hunts, and lots of $kc dollars. I know very little about Mojo, but it seems there are a lot of dogs who enter Mojo Madness, and I don't think the entry fees are that cheap, especially if you have a dog that sucks! I don't know Scott Engle either, but I would bet, he would set up a challenge hunt or maybe just a pleasure hunt, with anyone who wants to see a top Mojo dog up close and personal! There's bad in all stud dogs, but there are good ones too.

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Posted by Ringo08 on 04-10-2014 06:44 PM:

Hunted with 2 out of different females. Automatis first strike dogs. They bark from the time you unleash them, until the time they back the other dog on the tree. Personally, I'd switch breeds if Mojo was the only walker line available.


Posted by deadeye ruck on 04-10-2014 07:09 PM:

Before I begin, let me say that I'm not defending Mojo- truthfully I could care less but I do see quite a bit of "negative" and not much positive.

People say the same thing about Trackman and said the same thing about Harry and Rat. Look at them now.

I've had the opposite experience of many who have chimed in. The mojo dogs I have drawn in competition have been nice. They get open quick (top end strike dogs) and will get them by themself but will also get some of yours. All of them have been fast and as accurate as anything else. They are fairly independent but easy to start. I'll also say I've seen mojo dogs flat put on a clinic.

Many folks say these mojo dogs babble. The ones I have hunted weren't babblers. They didn't leave barking but when they got struck, they kept it open. People like to point fingers quickly but I've hunted with many different walkers out of many different bloodlines. Babblers come from many different bloodlines...

I've got a pup out of him now that's doing a good job for her age.

Some of the most reputable females in the country have gone to see Mojo. There's a reason his pups have won six digit figures. It isn't luck and it isn't because they all "cheated"

I'm not saying he's the end-all-be-all of stud dogs but rather his bloodline, like many of the other stud dogs floating around today, represents a valuable tool that when used correctly produces coondogs. I only have one female pup out of him but I do hope to one day outcross onto that bloodline.

If I have one criticism it would be that some have a small gear when dropped alone. Put them with company and you won't see them again.

He's only half of the story though...

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Posted by gettinhooked on 04-10-2014 07:09 PM:

Mojo

I've saw a lot of hounds like you describe the last ge years an not just outa mojo. A lot of that is breeding but a lot is also handler/training error. JMO mine when not hunted up will be a lil loose mouthed first dump or two not at all if hez hunted regular. A lil work with tritronics can cure that.


Posted by Jeff Ashmore on 04-10-2014 07:21 PM:

I have hunted with 1 mojo dog - Shredder

He is a grand nite now and I liked him, Glen Michels dog Shredder. He has won a lot around here in ukc and PKC. I would own the dog and I am pretty picky. Don't hunt with him but have seen enough times to say good things about him.

That is only one that i know of in our area. Charleston Illinois.

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Posted by BlueTickNC on 04-10-2014 07:30 PM:

Hunted with some nice ones off of mojo they got struck and got under a bush like they suppost to you didn't haft to build a fire waiting all night to go to a tree and seen coons with them

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Posted by dbpro56 on 04-10-2014 07:31 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by deadeye ruck
Before I begin, let me say that I'm not defending Mojo- truthfully I could care less but I do see quite a bit of "negative" and not much positive.

People say the same thing about Trackman and said the same thing about Harry and Rat. Look at them now.

I've had the opposite experience of many who have chimed in. The mojo dogs I have drawn in competition have been nice. They get open quick (top end strike dogs) and will get them by themself but will also get some of yours. All of them have been fast and as accurate as anything else. They are fairly independent but easy to start. I'll also say I've seen mojo dogs flat put on a clinic.

Many folks say these mojo dogs babble. The ones I have hunted weren't babblers. They didn't leave barking but when they got struck, they kept it open. People like to point fingers quickly but I've hunted with many different walkers out of many different bloodlines. Babblers come from many different bloodlines...

I've got a pup out of him now that's doing a good job for her age.

Some of the most reputable females in the country have gone to see Mojo. There's a reason his pups have won six digit figures. It isn't luck and it isn't because they all "cheated"

I'm not saying he's the end-all-be-all of stud dogs but rather his bloodline, like many of the other stud dogs floating around today, represents a valuable tool that when used correctly produces coondogs. I only have one female pup out of him but I do hope to one day outcross onto that bloodline.

If I have one criticism it would be that some have a small gear when dropped alone. Put them with company and you won't see them again.

He's only half of the story though...



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Posted by gettinhooked on 04-10-2014 07:45 PM:

Mojo

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Posted by Nova70 on 04-10-2014 08:05 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by dbpro56
Wow, that's amazing that one guy has hunted with 15 dogs out of Mojo, and didn't like any of them! It seems a bunch of dogs out of Mojo have won some major hunts, and lots of $kc dollars. I know very little about Mojo, but it seems there are a lot of dogs who enter Mojo Madness, and I don't think the entry fees are that cheap, especially if you have a dog that sucks! I don't know Scott Engle either, but I would bet, he would set up a challenge hunt or maybe just a pleasure hunt, with anyone who wants to see a top Mojo dog up close and personal! There's bad in all stud dogs, but there are good ones too.
Yes sir I did ( fact) not being smart but be for you give your 2 cents worth maybe you should hunt with some your from ohio go hunt with them top mojo dogs if I recall right think in 2012 the mojo madness was won with minus points thats sad all dogs out of mojo and all that good track power not 1 could tree a coon like is said automatic strike babble chasing other hounds tree behind other dog they are chasing YES there is good ones out there but the 15 I hunted would not eat my feed......... so you just have at it and get you some of them mojo dogs


Posted by Jeff Ashmore on 04-10-2014 08:20 PM:

Jealousy in dogs to be first.

That is a hard trait to put in dogs usually has to be bred in them the will to be first in company, first strike, speed and drive to get to tree first or be alone with other dogs about. That is Drive and jealousy to be first. Old Fieldtrailers back in 60's 70's hounds had it in spades then you had divide to just comp coon dogs and field trial dogs bred to greyhounds.. You will find the ones with speed and drive often came from the field trial dogs that were coon dogs also fro 60's and 70's Many comp. hunter were early field trialers also. Mr Jack throws alot of drive in his hounds as do several others studs. Put those drive dogs with other strange dogs and they do even better than by themselves often times. Shredder is like this and he is mojo and he likes competion it is in his blood. Look at all the good females bred to Mojo, Trackman, Rat, Clint. you are bound to get some very good dogs off of the best of these females even if they were bred to a junker, let alone well bred dogs.

I think Mr Engle has done well with Mojo and event that he puts on, its something that was new and different. Never met the man nor his dog.

It takes guts to try, Jeff


Posted by Jordan120 on 04-10-2014 09:42 PM:

The ones I hunted with wouldn't shut up all night and when they would tree you couldn't tell if they were because of there mouths. I can't stand a dog that barks to much. IM NOT SAYING ALL MOJO DOGS ARE BAD BUT THE ONES I HUNTED WITH wouldn't eat my feed

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Posted by Matt McKinney on 04-10-2014 10:04 PM:

All I'm gonna say about it is all you have to do is open any coon hound magazine and you will see not one or two but a lot of mojo pups in the winners circle. I had one here. He was a little to mouthy on track for me but he would tree coons. Sold him at 12 months old for 1500.00. He was not the best dog I have had here but he was far from the worst.


Posted by perry co cooner on 04-10-2014 10:11 PM:

Lol these threads kill me...........I've read the same things about just about every top stud out there. I guess these dogs got to the top because they consistently throw:

1. Slick treeing idiots
2. Me too dogs
3. Babbling fools
4. Mean dogs
5. Weak mouths

Just today I read a post where people were bad mouthing the Rat dog. His pups have won darn near TWO MILLION DOLLARS!!! Granted I'm certain there are plenty of bad dogs out of these top studs but I'm going to go out on a limb and say they have quite a few good ones too.

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Posted by gettinhooked on 04-10-2014 10:16 PM:

Mojo

Well put!!


Posted by gettinhooked on 04-10-2014 10:23 PM:

Mojo

And again ya got a lot of sorry gyps that should have been culled being bred to these studs and when the pups aren't there daddies reincarnate it's the studs fault .....? Gyp in my opinion has a lot more to do with it than is considered. Plain old fashioned genetics. Two recessive traits become a dominant. But that's a hole new thread. Mojo lipper Clint rat sackett jr etc have done there part as a whole. Breeders making breeding an culling decisions or lack there of is where the idiots are comin from. JMO


Posted by Davebrott on 04-10-2014 10:48 PM:

Re: Mojo

quote:
Originally posted by gettinhooked
And again ya got a lot of sorry gyps that should have been culled being bred to these studs and when the pups aren't there daddies reincarnate it's the studs fault .....? Gyp in my opinion has a lot more to do with it than is considered. Plain old fashioned genetics. Two recessive traits become a dominant. But that's a hole new thread. Mojo lipper Clint rat sackett jr etc have done there part as a whole. Breeders making breeding an culling decisions or lack there of is where the idiots are comin from. JMO
i agree my mojo female is out of a good bitch. she not a babbler.


Posted by Hunter Reese on 04-10-2014 11:08 PM:

I've hunted with 5 off mojo.
1 had a booming mouth and moved around good but had no drive. Never treed a coon. Off a pr "brood" female.
2 had a ton of drive and would burn a track. Treed a few by herself and with other dogs. Potential to make a good dog, yet handler had no idea how to handle that caliber of dog. Off nitech fighten side female.
3 COON TREER. Did whatever it took to get deep quick and have two looking down. She was super accurate and liked to be by herself. Placed 3rd in this last years ukc world hunt and has won a lot in Pkc. Off bellars ann.
4. Quick little action packed female. Pretty good about having a coon and would split and hold all night. Finalist in ss. Off phret.
5. Super nice young dog. Would get deep quick. He flew on track with his head up. Tree layups, didn't matter. Super nice tree dog and good track driver. One of the funniest dogs to hunt. Semifinalist in ss. Off smokey mtn Hannah.

3 through 5 all had good handlers. And were also off of super nice females. That's what you get. People expect cause they're a stud they can just back up anything to it and get the same results, false. Out of all these dogs none were babblers, but had no problem keeping strike open. They definitely did not me too or had any problem hunting by theirselves! All had good mouths. Mojo dogs are winning!!! I think it was 2 years ago 9 of top 16 in spring ss were sired by mojo. That's more than 50 percent. Don't tell me that happens by accident! He will be the one we all wish we would've bred to 15 to 20 years from now. In the same aspects as rat, Harry, nailor, etc. Had some awesome nights with these mojo dogs!

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