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Posted by david white on 04-09-2014 12:01 PM:

Black land Ernie

How did he reproduce?


Posted by toddwicks on 04-09-2014 03:13 PM:

Dark Hollow Scherry. Wasnt Earnie her Sire ?

Have i got this right ? Hobo was bred to Scherry to produce Slam.
Slam was.bred to Cabin Cove Beth ( Rocker Female) that produced Slammer and then along came HAMMER

What all dogs did EARNIE sire ?

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Posted by rweller on 04-10-2014 07:40 PM:

Re: Black land Ernie

quote:
Originally posted by david white
How did he reproduce?


Not near as good as his brother Black Land Bear.

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Posted by CHERRY VALLEY on 04-10-2014 08:07 PM:

Ernie

Bear, Ernie, and Backswamp Ragin Sioux were all littermates out of Bo. I dont know how good he reproduced, but not as good as Bear. Also, I dont know if he was bred too as much as Bear.

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Posted by toddwicks on 04-10-2014 08:41 PM:

quote:
[i]Originally posted by todd wicks

What all dogs did EARNIE sire ? [/B]




??????/????

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Posted by Dirtdevil on 04-10-2014 09:43 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by toddwicks
and then along came HAMMER



Hammer is such a dominant stud .. he gets credit not only for what he produces , but what produced him ... breed to Hammer now , or regret it later ...


Posted by Rodney Stewart on 04-10-2014 10:21 PM:

GRNTCH Rowdens Mighty Markus was of Ernie And Roubidoux Sue.

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Posted by dawgg03 on 04-10-2014 10:26 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Dirtdevil
Hammer is such a dominant stud .. he gets credit not only for what he produces , but what produced him ... breed to Hammer now , or regret it later ...
now that's a stud dog.

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Posted by toddwicks on 04-10-2014 11:13 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Rodney Stewart
GRNTCH Rowdens Mighty Markus was of Ernie And Roubidoux Sue.



Rodney ,do you know anything about the Mighty Markus dog ? Or anyone else ?

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Posted by Dirtdevil on 04-11-2014 12:43 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by dawgg03
now that's a stud dog.


that's not all .. Hammer actually wrote Walk With Wick ... John Wick is Hammer's pen name ...


Posted by dawgg03 on 04-11-2014 12:58 AM:

Dang justin I learn so much from you ! But it all makes sence now should have known that

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Posted by Rodney Stewart on 04-11-2014 01:54 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by toddwicks
Rodney ,do you know anything about the Mighty Markus dog ? Or anyone else ?


He was very big, he had a big mouth, he hunted hard, and was real balanced. He is the sire of Appilgates Magnum Maggie.

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Posted by River Birch Run on 04-11-2014 01:08 PM:

He is the sire to my Mason dog's Dam. She is by far the best female bnt I have ever been to the woods.

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Posted by berger on 04-11-2014 07:55 PM:

Re: Re: Black land Ernie

quote:
Originally posted by rweller
Not near as good as his brother Black Land Bear.


Ralph I would say I would probably agree with you on this though it is just my opinion. I talked to a guy that said he hunted with Ernie and Bear quite a few times that they were both coon dogs. They just had different style's Bear was a harder hunting dog then Ernie. For this litter Ernie, Bear, Sioux, and Abby not sure how many were in this litter. The reproducing ability to reproduce reproducers through this whole litter is uncanny. You will see after 20yrs from these dogs, reproducers showing up with one of these dogs somewhere in the pedigree. You see that now and then with a dog out of a litter, usually though not with the whole litter that this happens.

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Posted by Sparky on 04-12-2014 04:35 AM:

Never hunted with either, owned one out of bear and several out of Ernie. The locals said ernie was a go hunting sucker. Ed lived north of me an hour and had some good river hunting 1/2 mile off the road and I always heard Ernie wouldn't hunt the first half mile cause he had been turned off the road whole life and woods were usually half mile and it was always a dead run to get there. I don't know if this true or not just hear say.

If I was going to hunt a blackdog again it'd be out of these 2 or something heavy bred on them. My bear dog was a go yonder coon treeing sucker with a lot of sense. The Ernie dogs were also wild hunting dogs. Had a female out of him that started treeing coons by herself at 6 months old. Most people would've killer her. Seen her tree 12-15 coons a night several times but she could make 20-25 trees treeing those 12 coons also. Sounds unrealistic but that's what she was. She had more drive than any dog I've ever seen and a huge pain in the rear with a pitiful mouth, but hardest treedog I've ever seen. Had some other Ernie dogs that didn't work out they seemed more rattle headed, than the bear dogs.

I know ed had Ernie semen is it still out there? I'd like to have a Ernie pup if a guy could get pups from him.

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Posted by Billy George on 04-13-2014 02:53 AM:

Joe Sharp, Lucas Iowa has some. Not sure how to get a hold of him..

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Posted by trevor davis on 04-14-2014 04:28 PM:

nite ch mi buckwheat, nite ch screaming ernie, and nite ozark bozo. better hound then bear any day but didnt throw the tree power which bear threw too much


Posted by rweller on 04-14-2014 05:22 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by trevor davis
nite ch mi buckwheat, nite ch screaming ernie, and nite ozark bozo. better hound then bear any day but didnt throw the tree power which bear threw too much


I Have never hunted or heard of any of the dogs you mention. I would like to know how much you hunted with Black Land Bear since you say these other dogs were so much better than him.
I will say that Black Land Bear did throw plenty of tree power and some did tree to much when they were young but once they got a good kill season or two on them they usually got that out of there system.

Now tell me about these other dogs that were so much better than him since I have never heard of them or seen any of them in any pedigrees. I'm not a beginner in the breed so if they were that good I think I would have heard a little about them.

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Posted by Smoke on 04-14-2014 05:57 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by trevor davis
nite ch mi buckwheat, nite ch screaming ernie, and nite ozark bozo. better hound then bear any day but didnt throw the tree power which bear threw too much


How many Bear dogs you hunt with?

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Posted by berger on 04-14-2014 06:20 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Smoke
How many Bear dogs you hunt with?


Don't worry he has been doing this for 20 yrs. I am sure it has been a lot of them....

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Posted by Dan D. on 04-14-2014 07:23 PM:

ernie

never got to hunt with him but did see him. Big stout good lookin dark colored hound. Looked like one should look. did hunt with Bear one time, got by himself and got treed and had a coon. good treedog.

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Posted by Doug A on 04-14-2014 10:55 PM:

Somebody got it backwards. Troll go home!

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Posted by Treye VanDyne on 04-15-2014 12:44 AM:

There is or was Ernie semen and half was sold and it was no good, I had the opportunity to buy it and wanted it checked but it was sold before it got that far if you do look into buying Ernie semen have it checked


Posted by STROKIN on 04-15-2014 01:22 AM:

Buckwheat was in Michigan. Owned by Willard Prey. Never hunted with him.


Posted by Buckeyebill55 on 04-15-2014 10:49 AM:

hey sparky do u no what ever happend to Ed k


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