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Posted by bgs2009 on 03-17-2014 05:52 PM:

Young pup showing signs of being aggressive

Has anyone ever corrected a young dog that was showing signs of being mean on the tree? If so, what seems to work?

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Posted by newport on 03-17-2014 05:55 PM:

are they a very tree minded dog if so get ya a piece of garden hose and when they turn that head wearem out i know there will be alot of ppl that will say you should just cull that dog or you cant do that while a dog is treeing but if they have enough tree in them they wont change wanting to tree

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Posted by bgs2009 on 03-17-2014 06:06 PM:

Well im reluctant to do much to him right now because he is just getting started but he started a fight on the tree last time out. I thought about not hunting him with another male until he gets a little further along but was just curious if there is good proven way that might not hinder his progress on treeing coons.

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Posted by hillbilly56 on 03-17-2014 06:21 PM:

jmo

don't know how young he is but if he's fighting now it will just get worse i had a 6 month old that ran and tree the 1st nite out but the very 1st tree he tore in to my old dog he is in dog heaven you will never break a fighting dog i don't have any use for them you ain't gonna brake them it's in them to stay till the die

Posted by Mike Hill on 03-17-2014 08:55 PM:

pkc hunt him

if he stays mean

Posted by Mike Hill on 03-17-2014 08:55 PM:

pkc hunt him

if he stays mean

Posted by lraines on 03-17-2014 09:29 PM:

PUP

You sir Mr. Hill are an idiot. I have encountered way more rough dogs in UKC than PKC. Just because a dog in PKC is most likley not a pack dog like UKC does not make him mean. You are 1 dumb uninformed individual!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by john Duemmer on 03-17-2014 09:31 PM:

If hes real young you might change him, start by makeing him share his feed, if he so much as turns a lip at another dog beat the snot outa him, anytime he even looks crossways at another dog make him regret it. Put him in any situation you can think of that might make him jealous or possesive and if he shows even the slightest bit of aggression beat his a$$.
Might not work but you have nothing to loose, hes useless if hes mean.

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Posted by chuck west on 03-17-2014 09:48 PM:

I gotta agree with John on this .

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Posted by dane w on 03-17-2014 09:53 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by john Duemmer
If hes real young you might change him, start by makeing him share his feed, if he so much as turns a lip at another dog beat the snot outa him, anytime he even looks crossways at another dog make him regret it. Put him in any situation you can think of that might make him jealous or possesive and if he shows even the slightest bit of aggression beat his a$$.
Might not work but you have nothing to loose, hes useless if hes mean.

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Posted by Slowpoke 2012 on 03-17-2014 10:30 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by john Duemmer
If hes real young you might change him, start by makeing him share his feed, if he so much as turns a lip at another dog beat the snot outa him, anytime he even looks crossways at another dog make him regret it. Put him in any situation you can think of that might make him jealous or possesive and if he shows even the slightest bit of aggression beat his a$$.
Might not work but you have nothing to loose, hes useless if hes mean.

I did this with a dog that was about 8-10 months old. He wasn't aggressive at the tree, but as soon as the coon hit the ground he wouldn't let another dog touch it. Was aggressive around feed too. This method worked wonders. He'd love to share with your dog now.

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Posted by stevenbry86 on 03-17-2014 10:42 PM:

jmo

i had a young female that was like that and i penned her up with my older male and made them share the same food bowl next time out she was just as friendly on the tree as any other dog

Posted by gottabered on 03-17-2014 10:49 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by john Duemmer
If hes real young you might change him, start by makeing him share his feed, if he so much as turns a lip at another dog beat the snot outa him, anytime he even looks crossways at another dog make him regret it. Put him in any situation you can think of that might make him jealous or possesive and if he shows even the slightest bit of aggression beat his a$$.
Might not work but you have nothing to loose, hes useless if hes mean.

good advice

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Posted by Mike Hill on 03-17-2014 11:00 PM:

Im no idot

I dont like face barking or mean dogs Ive seen it around here in pkc nice to call people names when isnt to there face u might not like what u would get fella

Posted by T Burton on 03-18-2014 01:18 AM:

Re: Im no idot

quote:
Originally posted by Mike Hill
I dont like face barking or mean dogs Ive seen it around here in pkc nice to call people names when isnt to there face u might not like what u would get fella

X2 I had the same thought pkc hunt them not really kill it and be done with it whoop that sucker tell you give out on the tree because you don't have nothing right now unless you are making a pleasure dog you can't hunt around anyone with It will scratch and do it quick around here the mean ones are known and everyones ready to scratch there butt I don't like the dog , owner , and handler for hunting that junk and I will let them no about it before we leave gives kc,s a bad name

Posted by Jesse Bedward on 03-20-2014 05:23 PM:

i found a lot of my problem was my fear of letting my male dogs mingo with each other. after i started walking them together, feeding them just nose to nose a way from each other, budding them up and not being afraid it helped a lot! don't be afraid to let males mingo with males, if you do then you will never fix the problem. when a male never interacts with another males things go bad....dominance starts to kick in, he needs to feel like he isnt alpha dog, he needs to be knocked down a peg or to, take care of that part yourself....

Posted by shorecooner on 03-20-2014 05:53 PM:

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Originally posted by marpal
PS. All the above points should also go for,,,,,BABBLERS, CHEWERS, & SLICK TREEING IDIOTS.

I'll take all the babblers, chewers, and slick treeing idiots under 3 years old that anybody wants to send to me.

Straighten them right up within a couple months time, no problem.

Posted by bgs2009 on 03-20-2014 06:20 PM:

So far so good. I have been making him share food and other things. Seems to be working. Im kinda hard headed so im gonna make the effort before i give up.

If Ceasar can do it surely us as houndsmen can too.

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Posted by Jesse Bedward on 03-20-2014 07:35 PM:

when they find out that other males are friendly and happy it tends to let them put there guard down. pretty soon they interact socially at a respectful level. now if this was a 5 year old dog, there would be no hope and i would say get rid of him cause he will infect your kennel, but pups are trainable to know what is acceptable and what is not.

quote:
Originally posted by bgs2009
So far so good. I have been making him share food and other things. Seems to be working. Im kinda hard headed so im gonna make the effort before i give up.

If Ceasar can do it surely us as houndsmen can too.

Posted by Jesse Bedward on 03-20-2014 07:52 PM:

we all dont have the luxury of culling a dog and getting a new one. a good trainer can make a piss poor dog look like a million dollars. depends on how much effort you want to put into the training. some ppl fight for what they want, others just quit, im no a quitter and i dont think this guy is either.....no offense to you, we all have had different experiences, mine have been good with good out comes. nothing i currently own have this issue, but back in the day i did and it worked out good....

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Originally posted by marpal
[QUOTE]Originally posted by bgs2009
So far so good. I have been making him share food and other things. Seems to be working. Im kinda hard headed so im gonna make the effort before i give up.

If Ceasar can do it surely us as houndsmen can too. [/

That's how we all learn, good luck.

Posted by Jesse Bedward on 03-20-2014 07:55 PM:

i do want to add, if this line you are hunting has problems like this then i would look at doing something different for a dog, certain lines carry the fighting in them

Posted by Jesse Bedward on 03-20-2014 08:06 PM:

ive seen excellent dogs that have never not been a gentlmen for 7 years and all of a sudden snap on another dog....they are dogs, never under estimate them, they are a animal.

Posted by jason2579 on 03-20-2014 08:27 PM:

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Originally posted by mardown
Let's look at this another way. Perfectly good tree dog, not a mean bone in him, and a well mannered gentlemen,in every way.
Now here's the question. Could you train this dog to be mean on tree ?

Well I tell ya one experience I had on this one. Cousin had a dog raised from a pup. We hunted this dog for a year and half never had ill bone in him nor did his parents or his grandparents not even his siblings. Cousin hurt his back sent the dog down to Missouri for my cousin down there to hunt with the understanding he didn't hunt the dog with his dollar hound he was mean. 4 months later dog comes home and he was ruff on the tree. Come to find out threw the grapevine cousin down south ran him with his dollar dog and would put the boot to him if he didn't stay put on his spot on the tree. Took us 6 months to straighten him out. So the answer to your question is yes. I've seen my share of man made mean hounds. And the guys I know that make them that way if they can't they usually sell the hound to pleasure hunters.

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Posted by gcblues on 03-21-2014 01:34 AM:

Whatever you do go ahead and neuter him. Then if you can't stop the fighting at least he can't be bred to pass it on. It won't hurt his hunting ability. I have one of those dogs.

Posted by jason2579 on 03-21-2014 03:46 AM:

Not saying I know it all cause I learn something new all the time and I've been around hounds for 30 plus years but I will say this you can make a dog mean. Defending it's self is one thing but cleaning other dogs off a tree cause other dogs maybe crowding him or in his space and not face barking or putting fang to them is whole other bag worms. I've seen it done. So I'll leave at that.

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