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Posted by BUCKEYE BILLY on 02-06-2014 06:46 PM:

Has anyone had trouble with the pups out of PIAZON being aggressive on the tree?

I have the Candy female out of AIRPLANE going to be coming in heat this spring. I like his pedigree crossing on to this female. Please no negative post. I Just want to know if its a trait that is showing up on different females or if its not showing up at all. I'd like to throw the BINGO dog in their one more time and see what happens and using PIAZON cant hurt. Thanks Norm

Posted by Surveyor on 02-06-2014 07:56 PM:

Norm
Had you called or PM'd me I would have put you in touch with all the references U could have handled. But to pull a BS stunt like this, well U might notice I don't advertise him at "public stud" and he is NOT an option for you!

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Posted by steeb_63 on 02-06-2014 08:56 PM:

rude

thats just a little out landish!!!!!if i recall right this certain female got in a fight at bluetick days a couple years ago when my nephew drew her out?so with that in mind she might throw that with any male? and then again it might not have been her as the agresser enuff said and JMO

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Posted by Mark V. on 02-07-2014 01:35 AM:

I have hunted with 3 pups and have talked to 3 other guys that have pups off Pizon with no trouble at all Except they are very hard on the coon population

Posted by Ron Jackson on 02-07-2014 01:41 AM:

I have a female from Piazon and have hunted with 2 others. Never saw any thing that would even raise an eyebrow. What made you ask the question?

Posted by max destruction on 02-07-2014 02:23 AM:

I've never seen or heard of any ruffness in any piazon pups!

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Posted by Shawnee Creek B on 02-07-2014 02:24 AM:

A thread like this should have originated down here in sooner land.

Posted by midnite2010 on 02-07-2014 02:57 AM:

I've hunted with 3 of them and never seen the slightest bit of aggression. All I seen was split treeing coon dogs

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Posted by BUCKEYE BILLY on 02-07-2014 03:03 AM:

I'm sorry the whole world is fighting over nothing. please

I asked for no negative post. I remember the first time I hunted with dancer, Taylor ask me not to pet him on the head. Not knowing why he asked me not to, so I had to. Lol That was the night before i bred Hanna to him the first time. He was a bug eyed tree dog and it was not that he was mean he just trees intensely enough to where a dogs come in acting a fool ( jackin the tree, running the base, facebark ext.) he would ask him or her to politely, behave or find his or her own tree cause every time dancer would get bumped into it would startle him because he was the bug eyed tree dog that lets face it we all want. To stay treed with the white dogs we blue guys need a little more of that. Well I got a little of it already I'm just not looking for too much.lol And mike just for the record I have never bad mouthed ur hound to anyone, not my place. In fact the opposite and Im sorry if u feel that way that its not a option for me to take Candy back on Piazon cause anyone who knows me well knows that I am just trying to put thee toughest out there to beat the competition. Dont care who owns what or who's on the reproduces list. Their is fine line between raising these kinda of bug eyed treed dogs right to make em work right in the hunts. Sorry again if u thought I was trying to de- play Piazon's success. Not my intent at all just wanted it real. Thanks for reading. Sincerely, Norm

Posted by prostockpat on 02-07-2014 02:22 PM:

WOW

I've hunted with alot of Piazon offspring;
From 6-7 yr old John Gotti,young dogs to pups off{Kitchens Queen and Glista's Alice females}him.
Seen alot of things,but not 1 time any aggression anywhere.

BTW;
I'd contact guys that own and hunt them,not post on here.
jmo

Posted by joeinmo on 02-07-2014 03:21 PM:

pups

been around a lot of pups out of pie and haven't seen a mean one yet. this post actualy turned out a a good thing for mike lol never seen so many non fighting tree dogs surface lol

Posted by Danny Glista on 02-07-2014 05:54 PM:

Pie and Alice cross!

Raised and started alot of that litter here! Never ever seen anything mean out of any of them. They are treedogs that tree and that's all they have on thier mind! As far as Mike goes,you'll have to go along ways to meet and talk with a better guy! Period!!JMO!

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Posted by BILOH on 02-07-2014 06:29 PM:

Norm

I have hunted with John Gotti. He was a gentleman at the tree. No problem whatever. I have hunted with Alice and Abbie. They both were ladies at the tree. All three dogs showed no aggressiveness at all at the tree and they were good tree dogs.

Posted by Perry Ross on 02-07-2014 10:18 PM:

Pie

Got two off him and sally and not a ill hair on them. They do make it hard on other dogs passing coon hair the next day.

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Posted by Jake Appel on 02-07-2014 10:27 PM:

I have hunted with Piazon, Goti, and Abbie. Never saw any aggression at any time. Liked what i saw from all 3.

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Posted by BUCKEYE BILLY on 02-08-2014 06:41 AM:

Re: pups

quote:
Originally posted by joeinmo
been around a lot of pups out of pie and haven't seen a mean one yet. this post actualy turned out a a good thing for mike lol nevpeople n so many non fighting tree dogs surface lol

Ur right bud it did turn out to be a good thing for mike. A 1,000 hits in 24hrs. i never did liked to sugar coat stuff and i thought about the cross a week or two ago and i figured the best way to find out is ask the people hunting em. If the negetive was going to come out at all u know how people like to talk about the bad in another fellers stud dog. Thanks to all the people that posted hands on testimony. Some of the houndsman that said they have seen nothing ill out of any of Piazon's pups is good enough for me to want to breed to him.

Posted by joeinmo on 02-08-2014 09:14 AM:

pie

I have hunted with him and his pups they are very nice I had a male pup out of that I was very found of till he died at a young age. and another good thing is you cant find a better man to deal with than mike. cant go wrong here good luck

Posted by pamjohnson on 02-08-2014 01:38 PM:

i have hunted with 1 pie and my son has hunted with at least 1 without have'n seen an ill hair on them. its a good post after all!

Posted by JustinH23 on 02-08-2014 02:11 PM:

Only aggression I've ever seen out of a Paizon pup is on the score card. Lol. They're generally pretty tough on the other handlers too.

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Posted by steeb_63 on 02-08-2014 03:27 PM:

I agree with all about the owner of said hound,he is one of the best!! low key and a very good sportsman!!!way more in fairness than most of us combined!!!JMO.mike thanks for all you have contributed to the bluetick breed!!!!

Posted by Surveyor on 02-08-2014 07:04 PM:

Thanks everyone for the kind words, calls and Pm's (pm box now cleaned out) this post has generated. The concensus has been unanamous that it's creator did so with malicious intent, too bad for him it didn't work out that way. As for Piazon, the old boy probably doesn't have a ton of breeding left in him. We are blessed to have 1 female bred and 3 more booked to breed to him and I mean 4 absolutly top females owned and promoted by top notch Bluetick guys (and a girl ) Beyond that it really doesn't matter to me if he gets bred anymore or not. Now off to the HTDA banquet. Thanks again.
Mike

Posted by max destruction on 02-08-2014 09:59 PM:

Re: Re: pups

quote:
Originally posted by BUCKEYE BILLY
Ur right bud it did turn out to be a good thing for mike. A 1,000 hits in 24hrs. i never did liked to sugar coat stuff and i thought about the cross a week or two ago and i figured the best way to find out is ask the people hunting em. If the negetive was going to come out at all u know how people like to talk about the bad in another fellers stud dog. Thanks to all the people that posted hands on testimony. Some of the houndsman that said they have seen nothing ill out of any of Piazon's pups is good enough for me to want to breed to him.

I'm not much for sugar coating things myself,how does it feel to want?
Looks like you'll be doin just that!

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Posted by almost blue on 02-08-2014 10:18 PM:

Have one from pie and steve kitchens female.Intense treedog,goes hunting and quick to strike.Will be breeding my female to piazon hopefully next year,liked what i have seen.

Posted by BUCKEYE BILLY on 02-08-2014 10:46 PM:

Re: Re: Re: pups

quote:
Originally posted by max destruction
I'm not much for sugar coating things myself,how does it feel to want?
Looks like you'll be doin just that!

Dont get it? I breed for the dogs not me and I don't think Candy cares who I go with. Lol Dont even hunt much any more. Just like to put em out there u know. Isn't that what were supposed to do. Bluetickers sure do get funny over nothing its almost like the breed is separate In certain ways like we're not pulling as a team for a world champion. If i had a stud dog I would care less what anyone asked about him on here cause if their was a problem w him and the way he was reproducing he wouldn't be on here or for stud. Sounds like there is not so I guess my question was answered thanks to all answered like a true houndsman. Norm

Posted by pamjohnson on 02-08-2014 11:13 PM:

dumb question, dumb answer. drama drama girls lol

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