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Posted by Deon Collins on 01-29-2014 04:00 PM:

Clarks Tree Fiddling Snake Semen Straws

Does anyone out there have any straws on this dog in their possession? Has anyone attempted to obtain any straws on this dog? Also does anyone have a Male or Female directly out of him?

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Posted by oklared on 01-31-2014 12:24 PM:

CALL KIMBERLY CLARK HE OWNS IT

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 01-31-2014 03:18 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by oklared
CALL KIMBERLY CLARK HE OWNS IT

Mr Clark has semen and it is good but finding a good phone # for him might be a problem. The last one that I could find was dis-connected. You might try one of the people searches on the internet and get an address to write a letter to him. Snake has been gone for quite some time and I don't think that there is anything directly out of him still alive.

Posted by Deon Collins on 02-01-2014 02:19 AM:

It does exist

I do have Mr. Clark's number and I have spoken to him.... There is some direct off springs from him still living... I also have an offspring report from him... I just want to know of any out there that I don't know about and I also want to know if anyone has straws in their POSSESION..... I will give $800 for a breeding from a straw directly out of Snake.... Now we all know that back when these straws were collected that 1 straw did not necessarily equal one breeding... In addition when Snake was collected DNA was not required so 1/2 of a straw will have to be sacrificed for DNA.... Now I have a female that will arrive soon that is Yellow River on top (My stock of dogs) and Snake on bottom.... Which I want to line breed back to snake then back to my dogs.... This is just an idea I have to better the breed hence to need for a breeding... I just want to also know if anyone is interested in being part of this... If someone can get the straws I would pay for them and work out a deal on the litter.... In addition if someone has a female directly out of him I would be interested in leasing her.... There was also one litter that was a half brother half sister cross out of him I would really like to find one of those males or females.... If anyone is interested in helping bring some of this blood back give me a call and I will fill them in.... Richard I spoke to you before about the Nocturnal Duke dog.... That was before I bought Tsunami from Butterbean.... I know which direction I want to go now hope you are interested.... I have the right female....

Posted by Richard Lambert on 02-01-2014 05:12 PM:

Re: It does exist

quote:
Originally posted by Deon Collins
.... I have the right female....

I have several very nice candidates myself with a lot of Bomber X Bell and Zack blood in them. But what I found out was that it was going to be very expensive to actually get pups. A young man by the name of Shannon Walters tried it several years back and spent quite a bit without doing the DNA. Where are the dogs directly out of Snake that are still alive? Moose has a lot of that Bomber X Bell and Zack blood but our females are awfully close to him now. My Wendy female is Haze on the top and Haze is double Bomber X Bell. Her mother is Gr Nt Willow who is Bomber X Bell on the top and Zack on the bottom. I bred Wendy to Moose with excellant results. I would love to now breed one of these Moose X Wendy females to Snake. Or there is Chick who is out of Haze X Sally which makes her double Bomber X Bell on the top and Zack on the bottom. We tried breeding her to Heyward Sharpe's male who is directly out of Bomber and a Zack female but that didn't happen. She may be the best candidate to breed to the Snake semen if the cost were not so high.

Posted by oklared on 02-01-2014 06:06 PM:

YOU MAY TRY BLUE DOG SIGHT TO GET HOLD OF KIMBERLY, I THINK HE IS DOIN BLUE NOW.

Posted by Richard Lambert on 02-01-2014 07:37 PM:

It is a shame that Hank didn't stick around for another year or so.

Posted by Deon Collins on 02-01-2014 07:49 PM:

Did Shanon have straws

Richard are you saying that Shanon actually had some of the straws directly from snake? I spoke to Shannon and that wasn't brought up.... I am willing to take care of the DNA and spend the Money on the female we have to have her breed right at a clinic in Smithville TN... I will also do the surgical so there is a higher percent chance of success and I will help those that help me to this goal... If anyone is interested I would be willing to go in half on buying All the straws Kimberly has..... Richard if you are really interested in making this happen give me a call and I will fill you in on the rest of the details...

Posted by oklared on 02-02-2014 12:52 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
It is a shame that Hank didn't stick around for another year or so.

cooter is tighter bred

Posted by Deon Collins on 02-02-2014 04:37 AM:

Cooter Pedigree

Please post the pedigree on Cooter.... Thanks for all the info but I find it interesting that no one has responded with a dog directly out of Snake... I thought that someone would have used some straws by now.... As food as snake was and he was also on the reproducers list once and nobody has used a straw from him that is sort of hard to believe.... If anyone is interested please gone me a call...

Posted by oklared on 02-02-2014 01:02 PM:

SIRE IS DUAL GR. HICKS'S RUSTY, RUSTY'S SIRE WAS WILD WILLY.
RUSTY'S DAM IS DUAL CH. Y2KD. KD IS OUT OF BOMER

COOTERS SIRE IS RUSTY
COOTER'S DAM IS Y2KD

COOTER PROBLY HAS MORE RUSTY BLOOD THAN ANY DOG ALIVE AND WAS BRED FOR THAT PUPOSE.

Posted by Richard Lambert on 02-02-2014 04:18 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by oklared
COOTER PROBLY HAS MORE RUSTY BLOOD THAN ANY DOG ALIVE AND WAS BRED FOR THAT PUPOSE.

I am not looking for Rusty blood. I am looking for a lot of Rusty X Zack or Rusty X Ace blood.

Deon, I will call you.
Mr Bjenks, I have heard nothing but good about Snake.

Posted by oklared on 02-02-2014 08:47 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
I am not looking for Rusty blood. I am looking for a lot of Rusty X Zack or Rusty X Ace blood.
Deon, I will call you.
Mr Bjenks, I have heard nothing but good about Snake.

IM SORRY I THOUGHT DEON WAS LOOKING AT RUSTY BLOOD SENCE THAT IS WHAT ONE WOULD CROSS WITH ZACK BLOOD, DONT HAVE ANY ZACK STUFF UP TIGHT.

COOT IS TIGHT ON ACE X RUSTY

Posted by Deon Collins on 02-02-2014 09:39 PM:

Cooter pedigree

Oklared can you please post Cooters pedigree so I am sure I understand..... Thanks Deon

Posted by okreddog56 on 02-03-2014 06:58 AM:

NITECH.GRCH.SIMPSONS COON CRAZY COOTER,IS A MOTHER SON INBRED,HIS SIRE IS GRNITECH.GRCH.HICKS RUSTY,RUSTY IS OUT NITECH.WILD WILLIE,WILLIE IS OUT OF RUSTY RED AND A ZAK FEMALE,RUSTY'S DAM IS GRNITECH.CH.BOMBER'S Y2KD,SHE IS OUT OF BOMBER,COOTER'S DAM IS Y2KD,HE HAS A LOT OF RUSTY RED,BOMBER AND ACE BLOOD,WITH A LITTLE ZAK, I HAVE A FEMALE THAT IS OUT OF THE STEVE-O AND CHILE CROSS BRED TO HIM NOW,THIS WILL BE THE FIRST LITTER OUT OF HIM,HE IS A YOUNG DOG SO I WILL NOT PUBLIC STUD HIM,IF THE PUPS OUT HIS FIRST LITTER START EARLY AND MAKE COONDOGS,I WILL THEN.

Posted by bjenks on 02-03-2014 11:59 AM:

I hate to hijack this thread, but Im curious about Cooter. Oklred, is the Cooter dog a full brother to the dog owned by Mike Grimes called Luke? Also, I have always been told that when you look at a dog's pedigree, go back 3 generations and cut off whatever is behind that. If you do that with Cooter, does Rusty, Zack, or Ace show up in that 3 generation? Some breeders have different beliefs and philosophies then others and I was wondering what yours were? Do you believe that Cooter could reproduce a pup that would inherit a trait from Rusty or Ace with both of those dogs being so far back in the pedigree? I think this is why Mr Collins is interested in a Snake straw because he wants to get closer to Snake, Rusty, and Zack. JMO

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Posted by oklared on 02-03-2014 12:37 PM:

NO HE IS NOT A FULL BRO. TO LUKE

HIS TOP SIDE IS: HICKS RUSTY BY WILLY BY HOFFS RUSTY

HIS BOTTOM SIDE IS Y2KD BY BOMBER BY HOFFS RUSTY

THAT IS THE FIRST THREE GEN. ON COOTER

FURTHER BACK THAN THREE GEN. IM LIKE EVERYONE I LKIE TO SEE TOP DOGS IN 4TH 5TH AND 6TH GEN BUT TO SAY IT MATTERS ALOT I HAVE NO IDEA.

P.S. JUST A NOTE WILD WILLY DAM WAS A ZACK FEMALE

Posted by bjenks on 02-03-2014 12:51 PM:

Willie's Mother was a full littermate sister to Snake's Mother. I was told both female's werent much, but both reproduced some really nice hounds, hence pulling from Zack.

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 02-03-2014 03:08 PM:

Re: Cooter pedigree

quote:
Originally posted by Deon Collins
can you please post Cooters pedigree

.............................................Go Man Sam
.................................Hoffmeister's Rusty
...........................................................Turpin's Ks Thunder
..............................................Mahogany Sweet Lulu
............................................................Burke's Red Cricket
..........................Wild Willie
...............................................Ramblin Red Zack
..................................Red Rock Fancy
................................................??????
..............Hick's Rusty
.................................................Hoffmeister's Rusty Red
...................................Hoffmeister's Red Bomber
..............................................................Smith's Red Rowdy
.................................................Hoffmeister's Lil Sis
................................................................Hoffmeister's Red Brandy
............................Y2KD
...................................................?????
....................................Hamby's Indian Outlaw Brandy
...................................................?????
Cooter
.....................................Hoffmeister's Rusty Red
............................Hoffmeister's Red Bomber
......................................Hoffmeister's Lil Sis
...............Y2KD
.......................................?????????
.............................Hamby's Indian Outlaw Brandy
........................................?????????????

Posted by Richard Lambert on 02-03-2014 03:20 PM:

Now then the Cooter and Steve-O X Chilli cross would be interesting on paper. It all depends on what the Steve-O X Chilli female was like, though.

...........................................Wild Willie
...............................Hick's Rusty
............................................Y2KD
....................Cooter
..............................................Bomber
................................Y2KD
...............................................Hamby's Indian Outlaw Brandy
..Pups
................................................Wild Willie
..................................Steve-O
.................................................Willard's Sue(Rusty Red bred)
.....................Female
....................................Chilli (very tight linebred Fireball)

Posted by pastorgary on 02-03-2014 03:42 PM:

Brandy

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Hamby's Indian Outlaw Brandy
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Posted by oklared on 02-03-2014 06:21 PM:

Re: Re: Cooter pedigree

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
.............................................Go Man Sam
.................................Hoffmeister's Rusty
...........................................................Turpin's Ks Thunder
..............................................Mahogany Sweet Lulu
............................................................Burke's Red Cricket
..........................Wild Willie
...............................................Ramblin Red Zack
..................................Red Rock Fancy
................................................??????
..............Hick's Rusty
.................................................Hoffmeister's Rusty Red
...................................Hoffmeister's Red Bomber
..............................................................Smith's Red Rowdy
.................................................Hoffmeister's Lil Sis
................................................................Hoffmeister's Red Brandy
............................Y2KD
...mountainwiew magic................................................?????
....................................Hamby's Indian Outlaw Brandy
....hibritten mountain gidget...............................................?????
Cooter
.....................................Hoffmeister's Rusty Red
............................Hoffmeister's Red Bomber
......................................Hoffmeister's Lil Sis
...............Y2KD
.......................................?????????
.............................Hamby's Indian Outlaw Brandy
........................................?????????????

HAMBY;SINDIAN OUTLAW BRANDY WAS FROM DOW HALE AND GARY BRADSHAW STOCK IN N. CAROLINA

Posted by oklared on 02-03-2014 06:27 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by bjenks
Willie's Mother was a full littermate sister to Snake's Mother. I was told both female's werent much, but both reproduced some really nice hounds, hence pulling from Zack.

HANK MORRIS MADE ALOT OF THE RUSTY ZACK CROSSES, HE DIDNT LOOK AT FEMALES ONLY THE WAY THEY WERE BRED THEN WOULD BREED ZACK FEMALE TO RUSTY OR A RUSTY FEMALE TO ZACK. ACTUALY I MAYBE WRONG BUT HANK MAY HAVE MADE THE CROSS THAT PRODUCED SNAKE.

I HERD SAME THING ABOUT THOSE FEMALES THAT THEY WERE FOR BREEDING ONLY.

Posted by bjenks on 02-03-2014 06:32 PM:

Yep, you are exactly right! Now I understand when you said if Hank only had lived another year or so. I didnt realize Hank had passed away.

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Posted by Deon Collins on 02-03-2014 08:48 PM:

On pedigree

Ok say does anyone have a dog with SNAKE in there second generation?

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