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You are over thinking it

My brother was one of the top lion hunting guides in Colorado a number of years ago before he died. He would catch 30 a year for "clients". I went on a number of those hunts - both successful and unsuccessful. These hunters would walk for hours a day sometimes and never catch a lion. They might do it for a whole week. If a whitetail hunter in WI can sit in a variety of bow stands and never get his heart rate above 90 and say he is whitetail hunting, why can't a guy that is busting his ass with a guide for a week say he is bear or lion hunting. Hunting with dogs is a fickle sport. Sometimes it rains, sometimes it shines. If a person has the heart to accept each, they are a hunter. They have just chosen to do it in a different manner. I am not picking on bow or gun hunters in WI. I love to do it (just bagged a nice 9 pointer Sat. night) however, I will say that anyone that hunts with dogs whether they are the trainer or not is in for a harder hunt than most still hunters and must have the right frame of mind to endure the trials and tribulations that go on with dog hunting - that is a hunter in my book.

well said

Agree!

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