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As close and tight to Whitey (Stylish Clover) as you can get
I haven't advertised Cube on here for a while now. Not sure why I let his post fall off the edge, but it's time to bring him back into the public eye.
The jury is bringing back a verdict on Cube's ability in the stud pen....and the verdict is GUILTY AS CHARGED. Cube is producing in his own likeness. Good natured dogs that can trail, have a great mouth, and have coon in the tree when they put it in park.
I'm not going to blow him up...but know that he has spent time in the winners circle. He wins by getting struck as soon as he smells a coon, and trailing that coon to the right tree. He was a UKC Grand Night Champion before the age of 2, and did most of his winning in the winter with the leaves off.
I've allowed not less than three different folks take him to their house, and hunt him under their conditions....Ask them if Cube is a coondog!
Here is the deal.....Starting in 2014 Cubes stud fee will be $150.00.....and when you have a live litter and provide me proof that you have paid up the entire litter in the performance program...I'll give you your $150.00 BACK....so if you pay the entire litter into the performance progarm, your stud fee is FREE!!!!!!
Here is his pedigree, and I'll post pictures of him and point you to some video in another post later.
***********GR NT Owen's Hardwood Bozo
*******GR NT Logan's Wild Clover
***********GR NT Logan's Wild Julie
*****PCH Stylish Clover
************GR NT House's Lipper
*******GR NT Korte's Stylish Chirpee
************GR NT Schmershal's Stylish Queen
NT CH The Joker
************GR NT Hard Knockin Stylish Hayes
********GR NT Ball's Stylish Hickory Nut Harry
************GR NT Schmerhal's Stylish Anna Littermate sister to Stylish Clover
*****NT CH Gadd's Indiana Singin Yaya
************NT CH Iowa County Sinner
*******GR NT Starn's Oklahoma Sadie
************Iowa County Yad. R. Bell
UKC Grand NT CH, AKC Supreme Grand NT CH, PKC CH Oak Ridge Clover Cubed HTX
***********GR NT Owen's Hardwood Bozo
*******GR NT Logan's Wild Clover
***********GR NT Logan's Wild Julie
*****PCH Stylish Clover
************GR NT House's Lipper
*******GR NT Korte's Stylish Chirpee
************GR NT Schmershal's Stylish Queen
Clover's Stylish Molly
************GR NT Rock River Sackett
********GR NT Rock River Sackett Jr.
************GR NT Skean's Dolly
*****Wild Tracy
************GR NT Tony's Wild Clover
********NT CH Layburger's Late Night Cindy
************Cox's Finly River Patti
If you want to talk dogs, or arrange a breeding to Cube, just give me a call at 260-901-9011. I'm not a big fan of text messages and PMs so I prefer you call me in the evening..... Thanks for reading, and hope to talk to you all later.
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Joe Newlin
UKC Cur Advocate
Home of Oak Ridge Kennels
Still owe ya'll some pics and video...working on them.
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Joe Newlin
UKC Cur Advocate
Home of Oak Ridge Kennels
I owned one out of joker and hayrakes stylish molly,was doin a really good job,but got hit on the road,you got ant semen on joker.
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hayrakeswildjoe Bob Myers 304-369-0849
glad to see you resurface Joe. Hope all is well in your world.
How is that litter out of skunk doing?I was trying to follow it but I just never see anything posted on it anymore.
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if its there eventually it will look
Mark Warner
"HOME OF PREDAWN KENNELS"
http://www.tekonshathunder.homestead.com
Mark,
All is good, just wrapped up in work. Been working 12 hour shifts since last January.....doesn't leave much time for anything else. They went and made me a night time plant manager, so I have a little free time when nobody else is awake.
I LOVE that litter of pups. I haven't said much about it cause I'm being stingy with them. They are really nice pups and I'm going to keep them to myself for a while till I figure out which ones I want. They are LOUD and Proud.....that much is for sure. They are getting to the age where it's about time for them to start making trips to the woods.....
I'm really impressed with the Bear pups in my area, and I'm in Love with the Hank dog...hoping I get one that sounds like Uncle Boom, trees like Momma Skunk, and trees coon like Uncle Hank!!!!!
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Joe Newlin
UKC Cur Advocate
Home of Oak Ridge Kennels
well goodluck with them Joe. I hope you get the best of all 3 worlds.
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if its there eventually it will look
Mark Warner
"HOME OF PREDAWN KENNELS"
http://www.tekonshathunder.homestead.com
btt
Be a good choice stud for the Lipper and Bozo fans.... STACKED
Bred good.
Does Cube throw alot of Ticked up pups or there white stay pretty clean. Dumb ? to ask on a Clover stud, but am very picky to what I am going to cross this Sweat It female on.
She is straight Black and White with a Cherry Red Head and White creame colored muzzel. LOUD LOUD mouth not to mention, and LOVES to split. She is an accurate coon treeier. Looking for an Outcross with Lipper and Bozo stacked in a pedigree like Cube. Cube is located in Indiana?
Storm99,
It isn't a dumb question at all. I know that clover hounds have a reputation for being ugly, all ticked up etc....but I don't find that to be true.
I can show you pics of Cube's pups, and right off the top of my head I can't think of one that has ticks anywhere. Now these are the ones out of my breeding stock....can't promise that an outcross won't bring ticks with the female's side.
Cube himself doesn't have a tick on him anywhere. His pups are clean, where they are white, and where they are black, they are black.....
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Joe Newlin
UKC Cur Advocate
Home of Oak Ridge Kennels
Remember, Cube's stud fee is FREE when you pay up the entire litter in the performance program!
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Joe Newlin
UKC Cur Advocate
Home of Oak Ridge Kennels
Intense!
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Joe Newlin
UKC Cur Advocate
Home of Oak Ridge Kennels
Here is a pic of a Cube pup being worked in the daytime...
Notice what color he is, and how clean white....no ticks.
Yeah...he's the one standing on the tree!!!!
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Joe Newlin
UKC Cur Advocate
Home of Oak Ridge Kennels
Cube may get a chance to be on TV again soon....trying to dig up some footage of him on Tailgate Adventures!
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Joe Newlin
UKC Cur Advocate
Home of Oak Ridge Kennels
btt
For being **** neared White
He is Clean.
I like that in a Clover Stud. Throws good Clean White and Black Pups. Well the dam is off some of my own breeding stock, and havent seen anything ticked up yet.
That pups momma is almost white too.....out of my old Stylish Hitman male and a Rat Attack X Tony's Wild Clover female.....
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Joe Newlin
UKC Cur Advocate
Home of Oak Ridge Kennels
btt
Gonna pick this female up Sat.
Next heat cycle I'm making a trip to Indiana to see Clover cubed.
------Chics Wild Style-Sire
Female
------Grntch Hard Knockin Stylish Hayes
Grntch Stylish Apache-Dam
------Grntch Kerhes Stylish Patch
That will be a whole lot of Clover.
The Patch dog was a littermate to Stylish Clover. I really liked the Stylish Clover X Hard Knockin Stylish Hayes crosses....they were well balanced dogs.
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Joe Newlin
UKC Cur Advocate
Home of Oak Ridge Kennels
btt
I figured I would do one Clover Cross for the Clover fans.
I'm a Trackman fan, I like them Blanket Back and Clean.
But I'm gonna give Cubed a shot.
Be next year prolly around March or April
She will be bred to Rough Mtn. Joe Next Sunday or Monday.
Carl, No...I've never even considered that.
I guess I lo.0ok at coon hunting and breeding dogs a little different than Mr. Ball. It isn't a business with me, it's a hobby. It is an expensive hobby that I've dedicated a lot of time and a lot of money in. I breed for ME, and not for anyone else. I'm more than willing to share the excess of my breedings, and I'm happy to help someone out who thinks that a dog of mine may match up well with their female.
But if you think about it, I pretty much give my pups away for cost as it is. I'm not getting $1000 a pup. I've used the litter of Skuna River bear pups as an example on here recently. Right now, I have $380.00 a whack in those pups. I will ask $400.00 each for them when they are for sale. If I were to load up in the truck and make a 1000 mile circle to peddle pups...I would simply be paying to make it easier for someone to get a pup from me out of my own pocket. I'm keeping a couple of those pups for myself, so I'll have close to $800 in the pair that I keep...I'm not getting rich doing this.
I have offered fresh chilled semen on any of my stud dogs for no extra charge over the stud fee except the price of shipping to anyone that has issues with travel. I'm paying for the collection, supplies, and have to take time to collect, package, and ship the semen...so I guess I see that as doing my part.
I have driven hundreds of miles to meet folks half-way to breed females, only to have them not show up, and not even have the decency to call to tell me they can't make it, I've taken dogs on trade and never gotten papers on those dogs..... I'm not a rich man, so I don't have the time or the money to promote these dogs in the same manner as Mr. Ball.
And then there is the fact that it seems to be accepted that folks with stud dogs have money. I'm a poor boy that went for a over a year without a job. I simply can't afford to take money out of my pocket to make it "easier" for someone to own one my pups, and I can no longer afford to supplement other coon hunter's hobby.
Don't mean to make this sound harsh at all, but I don't want anyone to think that I am making money doing this. I am offering to make the stud fee on Cube FREE.....by simply having folks pay up the performance fees on the whole litter of pups....that is as far as I can go to helping others out after I pay to ship them semen.....
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Joe Newlin
UKC Cur Advocate
Home of Oak Ridge Kennels
Carl,
I hope you know that I wasn't dressing you down at all.... I just want everyone to know that I don't have enough money to supplement other folks hobby.
My buddy Ed Casper lives in northern Ohio, and I live a half tank of gas west of him in Northern Indiana. Most of the places that I outlined in my Bucket list turn out to be "one tank trips" from either my home, or from Eddies home. The thought process is that we can get to any of those places on one tank of fuel....a night in a motel room for each of us, and we should be able to hunt about three nights on a shoestring.
Russ Bellar built a million dollar lodge to host folks and has his fingers in multiple businesses, collects millions of dollars of semen from his breeder deer herd each year. I don't even belong in the same league as Russ!
If it helps any, I have a son and daughter-in-law that live in Elizabethtown KY....I can take Cube along on one of my weekend visits to see my Grandkids without it costing me an extra penny!
No harm, no foul...like I said, didn't mean to make it sound harsh....
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Joe Newlin
UKC Cur Advocate
Home of Oak Ridge Kennels
Bottom line coonhunters is Joe is a stand up guy just trying to keep a good CLOVER line of dogs going IF YOU DON'T WANT TO HERE THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH THEN DON'T ASK JOE!!! Great guy to deal with he will treat you right!!
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Originally posted by Oak Ridge
Carl,
I hope you know that I wasn't dressing you down at all.... I just want everyone to know that I don't have enough money to supplement other folks hobby.
My buddy Ed Casper lives in northern Ohio, and I live a half tank of gas west of him in Northern Indiana. Most of the places that I outlined in my Bucket list turn out to be "one tank trips" from either my home, or from Eddies home. The thought process is that we can get to any of those places on one tank of fuel....a night in a motel room for each of us, and we should be able to hunt about three nights on a shoestring.
Russ Bellar built a million dollar lodge to host folks and has his fingers in multiple businesses, collects millions of dollars of semen from his breeder deer herd each year. I don't even belong in the same league as Russ!
If it helps any, I have a son and daughter-in-law that live in Elizabethtown KY....I can take Cube along on one of my weekend visits to see my Grandkids without it costing me an extra penny!
No harm, no foul...like I said, didn't mean to make it sound harsh....
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Travis Gideon
OAKWOOD'S ENGLISH KENNEL (hounds/
in memory of founder Jim Chaffins)
RED HOT KENNEL (feists w/Henry Melton)
Alexandria, IN
270-763-2151 Cell#
E-mail: travisgideon@msn.com
Joe
Do u have semen stored in indiana?
This is my thought?
If so I would like to buy a couple of breedings if so.
I ended up getting the female and am going to breed her to the Joe dog that is a good friend of mines. Next Cycle I want to cross her up on Cubed. Should be a good cross for those that is wanting a true clover pup. Be clover 3 times right in front of your face when u open them papers. She should cross well, she is that clover looking hound. She's got a big horn too.
I will call you, but was just wondering if the Stud fee would be the same if I was to buy the chilled semen. 150.00 till performanced is paid up when I was to use it.
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Originally posted by travis gideon
Joe,
I live 20 mins from E-town, give me a holler some time if you bring a hound down and we'll hook up for a hunt if things work out.
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Joe Newlin
UKC Cur Advocate
Home of Oak Ridge Kennels
Re: Joe
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Originally posted by Storm99
Do u have semen stored in indiana?
This is my thought?
If so I would like to buy a couple of breedings if so.
I ended up getting the female and am going to breed her to the Joe dog that is a good friend of mines. Next Cycle I want to cross her up on Cubed. Should be a good cross for those that is wanting a true clover pup. Be clover 3 times right in front of your face when u open them papers. She should cross well, she is that clover looking hound. She's got a big horn too.
I will call you, but was just wondering if the Stud fee would be the same if I was to buy the chilled semen. 150.00 till performanced is paid up when I was to use it.
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Joe Newlin
UKC Cur Advocate
Home of Oak Ridge Kennels
quote:
Originally posted by Oak Ridge
Sounds good, as long as it's "flat"...I'm old and fat....just like Cube!
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Travis Gideon
OAKWOOD'S ENGLISH KENNEL (hounds/
in memory of founder Jim Chaffins)
RED HOT KENNEL (feists w/Henry Melton)
Alexandria, IN
270-763-2151 Cell#
E-mail: travisgideon@msn.com
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