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Running track backwards?

I've been huntin my female on buckets and she's been striking hot tracks and giving less mouth the further she goes, until she finally drops the track altogether? I don't know if she's dropping the track bcuz the coons are laid up near the bucket and she's running the only track available? Any advice would be appreciated!

get off the buckets !

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Gee,thanks Mr. Sanders?

x2 It is easy to ruin a dog on buckets and caged game.

Thanks fellas, but I was really looking for something a little more detailed and helpful...

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Originally posted by CAROLINAPRIDE
Thanks fellas, but I was really looking for something a little more detailed and helpful...

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Thank you Mr Sanders!

very hard problem to fix

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ive hunted dogs that did the same thing,they would strike a hot track and as they were running it the track kept getting colder,the dog never understood they were going the wrong way.i think thats bred in a dog.i have seen dogs get on a real hot track and go backwards a little ways then make a u turn and go tree the coon.

Running a track backwards is a flaw. Brain power is the only thing that helps it. I smart dog figures this out on their own.

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Hopefully she figures it out, she just started doing it.. and she ain't no pup.

If shes not a pup, why would you hunt her on feeders? To me, feeders should be used to getta young dog goin. Then completely stop using them.

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I have a young male that I was trying to get some hot tracks for and like I said the female hadn't done this before....

i'm not an expert and if you raise pups seems like you learn something each time. it takes alot of guess work sometimes to see what makes them click. i noticed some people wanna turn their dogs facing up a creek or down it in the direction they wanna hunt then push them on. the only problem i've seen is if the coons are behind you. its like your encouraging them to run one backwards. when they hit the track they need to make the decision on which way togo. but its jsut a guess. they all do it tho sometimes.

Well I'm no expert either, but the crazy thing is I've seen her wind a coon from a good distance off and go in and slam the tree and have her coon many times ! So she has a good nose but now she's started doin' this just strange?

Curious ,,,When was she last in heat ? How old is she ? And yep like the rest of the guys forget the buckets .

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To me treein off sent in the air and running a track is two Differant talents.Also the dogs that ive seen backtracking several times never quit doing it.Hope you get her straightened out.

Lotsa dogs do it, just not to many hunters recognize it.
Especially when they have company and go screamin away on a hot track that ends in a huge Maple or Cedar (BACKTRACK) thats where the coon spent the day.

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We'll be huntin a fair piece from the buckets tonight hopefully with better results! If she doesn't straighten out she'll be for sale with an honest description CHEAP LOL! Right beside her will be Coma male if he doesn't get Rollin soon!

Iv'e had the exact same thing with a 1yr old female of mine. It seemed like even if she took a track the right way to the tree that was next to the feeder she would check the ground and take a different track from the feeder and backtrack that sucker along ways and it would get tougher and tougher for her untill I finally picked up. This happened almost everytime i took her out. I stopped taking her around these feeders and the last two times that I ran her in corn fields she did it the right way and treed both times.I also thought that she would of figured it out for herself but she has alot of nose power and obvoiusly not enough brains to have figured it out when she was doing it. No more feeders for this dog and I hope she will keeping progressing in the right direction, LOL! Hope your dog figures it out and stops the back tracking. I couldn't imagine anyone wanting to buy a backtracker at ANY PRICE. Give her away as a pet or cull her and move on.Next thing you know someone will breed her and produce a whole litter of BACKTRACKERS.. jmo........Joe

Backtracking is a huge fault in many dogs today .. Shows up in all pups, and you will even see some finished solid dogs do it from time to time certain times of the year. It can be fixed in some , but others , it's literally impossible to fix .

Backtracking is the sole reason I start most pups walk hunting and bottle feeding the first couple coons they tree .

The little female I am hunting now has backtracked a couple during this spring; my method on fixing it or working on the issue is finding a coon sitting up an turning the pup about 100 yards away from the coon . You know exactly where the coon is and I they strike that track and drive it away from the tree... Well it's pretty obvious on what they are doing(normally) and I've shocked them to come back into the area an tree the coon. You can go by the way they use their mouth . But I like a controlled situation ; and finding a coon sitting up and then sending them that way is controlled situation in which you know where the coon is and it's pretty obvious when the dog is doing wrong


Once they have treed 50 coon or better ... Those pups know what way that coon went ... Sad part about it is some prefer to back track!!!

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Originally posted by john Duemmer
Lotsa dogs do it, just not to many hunters recognize it.
Especially when they have company and go screamin away on a hot track that ends in a huge Maple or Cedar (BACKTRACK) thats where the coon spent the day.

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Originally posted by Jason Miller
Running a track backwards is a flaw. Brain power is the only thing that helps it. I smart dog figures this out on their own.

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Originally posted by Dwils
Very extremely false statement

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I read a research article years ago written by an expert on mantracking with bloodhounds, they concluded that in order to determin direction accuratly when crossing a track a dog had to use both nostrils in much the same way we need both eyes in order to have depth perception. They would actually block one nostril, lead the dog to the track and their ability to determin direction dropped to 60% as opposed to over 90% for a dog with two working nostrils. Im not sure how this applies to our coondogs but its pretty interesting.

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