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Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 05-09-2013 05:41 PM:

what worse then?

Ya know what's worse then someone arguing with you that doesn't know the rules? Someone that thinks they know the rules and will argue with you.

I'll give you guys an example.

3 Dog cast. 1 Dog is treed and while were shinning the other 2 Come in. Judge says the strike is circled and I agreed.

He then goes on to say that so many guys mis-intrepret the rules in this case. Says a lot of guys would minus the strike when a coon is seen and that is not how its done unless they were in there treeing before the cast got in there. I just smiled and thought to myself I hope it doesn't come down to this situation between winning and losihg the cast for you

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Posted by truly on 05-09-2013 07:27 PM:

Re: what worse then?

quote:
Originally posted by Hoosier Man1
Ya know what's worse then someone arguing with you that doesn't know the rules? Someone that thinks they know the rules and will argue with you.

I'll give you guys an example.

3 Dog cast. 1 Dog is treed and while were shinning the other 2 Come in. Judge says the strike is circled and I agreed.

He then goes on to say that so many guys mis-intrepret the rules in this case. Says a lot of guys would minus the strike when a coon is seen and that is not how its done unless they were in there treeing before the cast got in there. I just smiled and thought to myself I hope it doesn't come down to this situation between winning and losihg the cast for you

Trevor, looks like no one else is gonna take the bait on this post, but I will. I am a little confused, you sound like you disagree with the judges call. But when he made it you said you agreed. And your statement that you "hope it doesn't come down to this situation between winning and losihg the cast for you", when you are on record as agreeing with the call. Whether the call is right or wrong if you haven't questioned it at that point you aren't going to get to later. If those points should have been minused [if there was a coon seen in tree] or deleted, it is now too late. YOU AGREED TO THE CALL. I guess you have not made it clear- was a coon seen? If it was then why did you agree with the judge when you know he was wrong? Why wouldn't you question that if you know he is wrong? You do know that you can't question it later right?
Sorry if I have misunderstood your statement, but it looks to me like you agreed with the judge on something that you actually disagree with. If he ends up beating you by 25 points isn't he gonna be the one smiling?

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Posted by huntbluedogs on 05-09-2013 07:44 PM:

Truly

In your haste to post back you misinterpreted what he said go back and read the last paragraph again


Posted by GA DAWG on 05-09-2013 07:50 PM:

Id be wanting it circled to if it was my dog coming in. Be wanting it minused if it was mine treed lol.

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Posted by truly on 05-09-2013 07:54 PM:

Re: Truly

quote:
Originally posted by huntbluedogs
In your haste to post back you misinterpreted what he said go back and read the last paragraph again
Right- it appears that a coon was seen. Not totally sure on that. But if a coon was seen then Trevor has agreed with a call that was incorrect. And that he knows is incorrect. And can not be changed later.
We all do know that we can't go back and change things later right? Once a call has been made it is done. Question it then and there or accept that it as it is.
Or am I missing the point that the dog treed belongs to the judge and Trevor accepted circle points the he knows should have been minused . He doesn't make it clear whose dog is treed.

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Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 05-09-2013 07:55 PM:

Mine was just an example. Truly I hope your not getting into a rule debate with me. Maybe my example wasn't thorough enough.

2 dogs came into a tree being shinned the tree was slick. Our strike gets circled. The judge dais even if there was a coon we still got out strike circled and not minused. Said that's one rule that causes alota lot of arguments.

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Posted by huntbluedogs on 05-09-2013 08:19 PM:

It's causing one now


Posted by wagner787 on 05-09-2013 09:40 PM:

So wat is the correct way to score if tree is slick?? Or has a coon?


Posted by MUSKY on 05-09-2013 09:43 PM:

if the coon is found the dogs that would have came in would be minused

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Posted by DylanHovey on 05-09-2013 09:45 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Hoosier Man1
Mine was just an example. Truly I hope your not getting into a rule debate with me. Maybe my example wasn't thorough enough.

2 dogs came into a tree being shinned the tree was slick. Our strike gets circled. The judge dais even if there was a coon we still got out strike circled and not minused. Said that's one rule that causes alota lot of arguments.




IF two dogs came into a slick tree they would get the next available points right? If so you should have been minused the first time.


Posted by damon shivers on 05-09-2013 09:46 PM:

it is

Slick circle - coon seen minus I think its what he is getting art

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Posted by GA DAWG on 05-09-2013 09:49 PM:

I could live with it being minus across the board. No circle no nothing. Put the - to em.

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Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 05-09-2013 10:42 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by GA DAWG
I could live with it being minus across the board. No circle no nothing. Put the - to em.


Now your going to confuse them all lol

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Posted by WVHUNTER24.7 on 05-09-2013 10:57 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by DylanHovey
IF two dogs came into a slick tree they would get the next available points right? If so you should have been minused the first time.


That depends on if the dogs were there before or after judge arrives.

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