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Posted by Reece Samuelson on 04-22-2013 05:15 AM:

Dog supplements/energy

Do any of you that are hunting a dog 3-5 times a week plus going to a couple hunts a week give your dog any supplements or vitamins like dog bloom or wheat germ oil...if so do you see a difference and what are you giving them

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Posted by Nat Thomas on 04-22-2013 10:35 AM:

All they need is a high quality meat based dog food and they will have plenty of energy to go all night every night. Save the money you would spend on a supplement and put it towards a higher quality dog food. I would say that not many people hunt a dog harder than I do and mine have enough energy to go from dark until daylight 5-7 nights a week.
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Posted by Jon Millwood on 04-22-2013 11:28 AM:

Ill agree with Nat on this one. People get all pissy when you talk about one dog food being better than another but the fact is eat McDonalds every day then go run a marathon..

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Posted by JiM on 04-22-2013 01:32 PM:

I have tried about everything out there. My experience has been 1) they won't eat it, 2) it cost way too much for regular use, 3) it doesn't do a lick of good. The one and only "supplement" I have ever used that was cost efficient, readily eaten by the dog and made an noticeable difference is canned mackerel from WalMart which is prolly the best and cheapest power feed you will ever feed.

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Posted by CSnowgren on 04-22-2013 02:23 PM:

As Jim, I have tried most everything. I do use a supplement but it costs nearly 100 bucks for roughly a 4 month supply. It works but you better have a very solid understanding of canine biochemistry and feed an above average feed to begin with. I use it primarily to increase protein levels to repair muscle tissue from a heavy workload. The additional ingredient benefits are its fat content that readily converts to energy. It also has carbs in the proper form that a dog can use. Chelated minerals are like vitamin C to a dog. The only negative is its creatine content. You need to understand what creatine does and monitor the dogs water intake. I cut the recommended portion in half and this usually takes care of it and still realizes the benefit of the supplement. Long story short, they are out there, you just have to find one that works for your dog, you, and your wallet.

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Posted by Majestic Tree H on 04-22-2013 04:44 PM:

Magnesium and Potassium.. How much is your Dog actually Recieving ???

If you don't know then your Hound will have a Endurance Problem ..

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Posted by RedBNJ on 04-22-2013 05:48 PM:

I agree that you should feed better rather than supplement, but the best supplement available is Annamaet Impact, the sled dog supplement, and it comes in 20lb pails for kennels as well as smaller packages. It is 48% protein and 30% fat. The dogs do backflips for it.

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Posted by Joe S. on 04-22-2013 05:50 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by JiM
I have tried about everything out there. My experience has been 1) they won't eat it, 2) it cost way too much for regular use, 3) it doesn't do a lick of good. The one and only "supplement" I have ever used that was cost efficient, readily eaten by the dog and made an noticeable difference is canned mackerel from WalMart which is prolly the best and cheapest power feed you will ever feed.

Hey jim u noticed a big difference in this? i could see it working it full of protein...

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Posted by RedBNJ on 04-22-2013 06:40 PM:

http://inukshukpro.com/buy-direct/

Here is a tip, especially for guys with a big kennel or who can get a group together.

You can't beat this deal on a hyper-performance food when you buy 65 bags direct.

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Posted by Cleo on 04-22-2013 07:20 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Majestic Tree H
Magnesium and Potassium.. How much is your Dog actually Recieving ???

If you don't know then your Hound will have a Endurance Problem ..

Steve I need something to stimulate an appatite. I can get him to eat anything hardly!,

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Posted by JiM on 04-22-2013 07:31 PM:

quote:
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Steve I need something to stimulate an appatite. I can get him to eat anything hardly!,

Again, mackerel. Never seen a dog not clean up anything mixed with mackerel.

Posted by JiM on 04-22-2013 07:36 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Joe S.
Hey jim u noticed a big difference in this? i could see it working it full of protein...

I used it when our bitch was bred. Diamond AE and 1/2 can of mackerel every day. She got way too fat, even for carrying pups but if you hunt her hard, as in 7 days a week, then she just gets hard. Ask Dwils, he seen her on mackerel and hunted with her. We just aren't hunting hard enough right now to use the mack plus we are feeding Dr Tims.

Posted by JiM on 04-22-2013 07:39 PM:

By tha way, that mackerel at Walmart is around $1.25- $1.35 per 15 ounce can. You're talking less than 5 bucks per week at the rate I fed it. 10 bucks if you fed a whole can every day but I was never that brave.

Posted by Cleo on 04-22-2013 11:17 PM:

Thank you! Ill get some! Id forgotten this advice!

Posted by patches9452 on 04-22-2013 11:59 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by JiM
By tha way, that mackerel at Walmart is around $1.25- $1.35 per 15 ounce can. You're talking less than 5 bucks per week at the rate I fed it. 10 bucks if you fed a whole can every day but I was never that brave.

if you were to feed a can a day would you need anything else to go with it

Posted by Majestic Tree H on 04-23-2013 12:31 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by patches9452
if you were to feed a can a day would you need anything else to go with it

Oh a bottle of red wine would go well with it .....

Posted by Cleo on 04-23-2013 02:02 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Majestic Tree H
Oh a bottle of red wine would go well with it .....

Or a bottle of Keopectate...

Posted by RedBNJ on 04-23-2013 12:51 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by JiM
By tha way, that mackerel at Walmart is around $1.25- $1.35 per 15 ounce can. You're talking less than 5 bucks per week at the rate I fed it. 10 bucks if you fed a whole can every day but I was never that brave.

The cost of feeding Dr. Tim's ranges for about 60 cents a day to 90 cents a day, but the 90 cents is for a big wirehaired spinone at 93lbs.

No supplements and I don't have to drive anywhere to get the food. In the off season they get the less expensive 26/16 food.

Outside of Dr. Tim's I would use PMI Exclusive 30/20. This food hardly ever gets talked about but it is a great value food. It is a real find and easy to get from the feed stores carrying the PMI line.

Posted by Diggerman on 04-23-2013 01:11 PM:

How about Red Cell,I used to mix it with Dog food in the winter for the Coyote hounds,Seemed to help.

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Posted by acoyotehunter on 04-23-2013 01:47 PM:

vitamin b 12 will juice them up lol

Posted by JiM on 04-23-2013 02:51 PM:

quote:
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vitamin b 12 will juice them up lol

Not likely.
If a dog has a b12 deficiency , anemia or some other sort of medical ailment, it can be beneficial but for a healthy dog, b 12 won't do a thing. Do the research.

Posted by acoyotehunter on 04-23-2013 03:37 PM:

i was being a smart azz lol lol a lot of guys up this way give them b 12 and tell me it gives them energy. i wanted to see what these guys said.

it will get ride of warts thow

Posted by Maniac on 04-23-2013 05:33 PM:

i use sealife and stress dex. i dont care wat kind of food u feed if u hunt hard the hound needs more then a good food.

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Posted by calebjordon on 04-23-2013 05:43 PM:

High quality feed will give more energy then needed. I've been feeding black gold blue bag it's a 24/20 and mine never even get tired. That's hunting at least 4 drops a night 4 nights a week. But if you want to give them a boost get Forte. It's like dog crack.

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Posted by Maniac on 04-23-2013 05:58 PM:

i feed good feedbut if u hunt 7 nites aweek dar to day lite. the hound needs more supplement

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