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Posted by bstew on 04-07-2013 11:14 PM:

Have a pup that won't load in dog box

I have a young wipeout bread female and she will not load in a box she will just put her front legs up on tailgate and not try to jump even I've tried to get her to jump but won't. Anybody have any suggestions of how to fix this


Posted by bstew on 04-10-2013 04:04 AM:

Any way to break dog of this

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Posted by giverson on 04-10-2013 04:19 AM:

Start feeding her in the box. If she wants to eat she will jump in.

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Posted by bigdog061 on 04-10-2013 10:51 AM:

Let the dog box be her house.....bedding on 1 side, put feed and water in the other. after a week or so, put box in truck, put feed in box, she will get hungry enough!!!!

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Posted by Hightower on 04-10-2013 11:58 AM:

sometimes

that far of a leap is a little intimidating. I'm assuming the dog is old enough to make the jump. If you can find a spot in your yard were it will cut the distance from the ground to the tailgate a little take a piece of hot dog let her smell it and throw it in the box. To each his own but this method has worked for me.


Posted by Randy Nichols on 04-10-2013 02:31 PM:

Re: sometimes

quote:
Originally posted by Hightower
that far of a leap is a little intimidating. I'm assuming the dog is old enough to make the jump. If you can find a spot in your yard were it will cut the distance from the ground to the tailgate a little take a piece of hot dog let her smell it and throw it in the box. To each his own but this method has worked for me.
I've used hot dogs to get more than one dog to load it works pretty good


Posted by runnin rebels on 04-10-2013 02:48 PM:

Just pick the poor thing up and put it on the tailgate!

I have one that won't jump in either. But that SOB will jump 6 feet high while he is jackin the tree.

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Posted by John D on 04-10-2013 03:15 PM:

Do not make loading a painful experience or you will never get her to load.

Do not pick her up and put her in, unless you want to do that the rest of her life.

My dogs have to load and I generally have them loading as pups. They have to be taught. The good news is once they learn that getting in the truck means they are going hunting, they are glad to jump in.

Here's how I do it. I take the dog box out of my pick up and then park the truck in a low place in such a way that the tailgate might only be a foot off the ground. After I have the pup leading well, I just lead it up into the bed of the truck, giving some kind of verbal command as I do it. Once the dog has stepped up in the truck bed, I praise it. I lead it out of the truck bed and repeat. Soon the dog is wanting to get in the truck to receive that praise. Loading has become a pleasant experience for them.

At that point, I start parking the truck so the tailgate is higher and keep repeating until the tailgate is normal height. At some point I will stop stepping in the bed myself. Then, I'll put the dog box in and start with the tailgate low.

Once the dog knows how to do a particular step, but refuses, they need some discipline. Most dogs, at some point will come up to the tailgate and want to turn away, or they will jump on the tailgate but refuse to go in the dog box. They are testing YOU. This is when they need to know its not their decision, its yours.

Loading is no different than any other training a coonhound needs. Put them in a position to be successful and praise them when they are. If you get to a step they can't do, then back up to the step where they were successful and repeat. Discipline them when they know and are able to do the right thing but are just being stubborn.

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Posted by Randy Tallon on 04-10-2013 06:20 PM:

This man is giving you good sound advice. Listen to him.

quote:
Originally posted by John D
Do not make loading a painful experience or you will never get her to load.

Do not pick her up and put her in, unless you want to do that the rest of her life.

My dogs have to load and I generally have them loading as pups. They have to be taught. The good news is once they learn that getting in the truck means they are going hunting, they are glad to jump in.

Here's how I do it. I take the dog box out of my pick up and then park the truck in a low place in such a way that the tailgate might only be a foot off the ground. After I have the pup leading well, I just lead it up into the bed of the truck, giving some kind of verbal command as I do it. Once the dog has stepped up in the truck bed, I praise it. I lead it out of the truck bed and repeat. Soon the dog is wanting to get in the truck to receive that praise. Loading has become a pleasant experience for them.

At that point, I start parking the truck so the tailgate is higher and keep repeating until the tailgate is normal height. At some point I will stop stepping in the bed myself. Then, I'll put the dog box in and start with the tailgate low.

Once the dog knows how to do a particular step, but refuses, they need some discipline. Most dogs, at some point will come up to the tailgate and want to turn away, or they will jump on the tailgate but refuse to go in the dog box. They are testing YOU. This is when they need to know its not their decision, its yours.

Loading is no different than any other training a coonhound needs. Put them in a position to be successful and praise them when they are. If you get to a step they can't do, then back up to the step where they were successful and repeat. Discipline them when they know and are able to do the right thing but are just being stubborn.

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Posted by slobbermouth21 on 04-10-2013 10:08 PM:

My dogs ride in them front seat...but my brother and his.friends used to get a running start and pretty much throw the dog in them box by, he collar after a couple times the dogs loaded up by themselves..

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Posted by croatankid on 04-10-2013 10:28 PM:

i pick them up and load them at first. then they start putting their front feet on the gate and i help them and then they jump up. they learn that getting in the box means going hunting.

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Posted by Bondo on 04-24-2013 06:16 PM:

I have a dog that never learned to load her entire life. Whe was just a small English and I had to pick her up everytime. I now have a 1 year old English I just bought with the same problem. 1 year old isn't too late to teach them this is it?


Posted by Ron Ashbaugh on 04-24-2013 06:25 PM:

I have one that will load right up in the truck til its time to go hunting, once she is on the tailgate and has her collars on, she will jump down and won't go back up. you have to drag her with the leash.........very frustrating.

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Posted by Surveyor on 04-24-2013 09:59 PM:

Re: Have a pup that won't load in dog box

quote:
Originally posted by bstew
I have a young wipeout bread female and she will not load in a box she will just put her front legs up on tailgate and not try to jump even I've tried to get her to jump but won't. Anybody have any suggestions of how to fix this

Heck I have a whole kennel full of dogs that do just what she does, just always pick them up-guess my dogs are spoiled.

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Posted by RED REBELS on 04-24-2013 11:10 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by giverson
Start feeding her in the box. If she wants to eat she will jump in.

quote:
Originally posted by bigdog061
Let the dog box be her house.....bedding on 1 side, put feed and water in the other. after a week or so, put box in truck, put feed in box, she will get hungry enough!!!!

Paul


quote:
Originally posted by John D
Do not make loading a painful experience or you will never get her to load.

Do not pick her up and put her in, unless you want to do that the rest of her life.

My dogs have to load and I generally have them loading as pups. They have to be taught. The good news is once they learn that getting in the truck means they are going hunting, they are glad to jump in.

Here's how I do it. I take the dog box out of my pick up and then park the truck in a low place in such a way that the tailgate might only be a foot off the ground. After I have the pup leading well, I just lead it up into the bed of the truck, giving some kind of verbal command as I do it. Once the dog has stepped up in the truck bed, I praise it. I lead it out of the truck bed and repeat. Soon the dog is wanting to get in the truck to receive that praise. Loading has become a pleasant experience for them.

At that point, I start parking the truck so the tailgate is higher and keep repeating until the tailgate is normal height. At some point I will stop stepping in the bed myself. Then, I'll put the dog box in and start with the tailgate low.

Once the dog knows how to do a particular step, but refuses, they need some discipline. Most dogs, at some point will come up to the tailgate and want to turn away, or they will jump on the tailgate but refuse to go in the dog box. They are testing YOU. This is when they need to know its not their decision, its yours.

Loading is no different than any other training a coonhound needs. Put them in a position to be successful and praise them when they are. If you get to a step they can't do, then back up to the step where they were successful and repeat. Discipline them when they know and are able to do the right thing but are just being stubborn.




I would listen to these three, if she gets hungry, she'll jump and doing it slow and steady works too.

now Billy Beckham's advice could work as well, but I had a dog that WOULD NOT go in a dog box, or starting gate, took two full grown men to get him in there, first the front feet would latch on to whatever, then the back feet would. once you got the big moose in there, he would turn himself around, which isnt a problem in the dog box but it is in a starting box, and then if the people that shoved him in the box were around, he wouldnt come out. so it could work, but it could be a harmful experience to your dog's development as well

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Posted by croatankid on 04-24-2013 11:18 PM:

if you must force the dog into a box try pushing him backwards. it's harder for him to resist going backwards.

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Posted by jdgher on 04-25-2013 05:42 AM:

Peanut butter crackers

I use the low tailgate method with pups (a few times). If they find a peanut butter cracker in that box a few times, you'll have a hard time keeping them out of the box. I also use these to teach them to come when I call them. When training a pup, me and that pup eat a lot of peanut butter crackers.
Careful though, they can hear you opening the rapper of the peanut butter cracker a 1/4 mile away, sometimes they come running in. Open them in the truck with the windows up. :-0

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