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Posted by Jamie Smallwood on 03-21-2013 03:22 AM:

More or Less???

Was wondering which is better for a dog in summer do they need more protein less fat or less protein more fat? I have heard different things just wondering which is better in summer months. Thanks

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Posted by walkerdog1 on 03-21-2013 03:28 AM:

I change from hi protein hi fat in the winter slowley to something like a 26/18 or something like that also need to get away from the grain base foods to a meat base jmo

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Posted by Jamie Smallwood on 03-21-2013 03:36 AM:

What I am feeding now is the 26/20 Pride Pro Series Chicken Protein and Rice

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Posted by Nat Thomas on 03-21-2013 08:03 AM:

It all depends on the overall quality of the dog food and its ingredients!!! I have fed and will continue to feed Native Level 4 35/35 year this and have yet to have a problem with a dog over heating etc.. A dog food with junky cheap ingredients will burn them up! For example, I've fed Native 4 which is 35% protein 25% fat to many many different dogs and I used Black Gold 26/18 for a short time and about burnt them to death!!! So hot after Treeing a couple of Minutes that I actually forced a couple of them into the creek and made them lay down in the water. It had way more to do with what's in it than what % levels it is!!!


Posted by Maniac on 03-21-2013 02:43 PM:

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Originally posted by Nat Thomas
It all depends on the overall quality of the dog food and its ingredients!!! I have fed and will continue to feed Native Level 4 35/35 year this and have yet to have a problem with a dog over heating etc.. A dog food with junky cheap ingredients will burn them up! For example, I've fed Native 4 which is 35% protein 25% fat to many many different dogs and I used Black Gold 26/18 for a short time and about burnt them to death!!! So hot after Treeing a couple of Minutes that I actually forced a couple of them into the creek and made them lay down in the water. It had way more to do with what's in it than what % levels it is!!!
nat i will agree with u on the food part but the high protein will hurt a dogs kidneys.. iv heard nothing but good about native. wat makes a dog hot is corn and all the junk fillers. so i will say it again nat i agree with u.

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Posted by deschmidt27 on 03-21-2013 06:59 PM:

I'm far from a dietary expert, but I use a couple rules of thumb...

It's all about what the dog needs, and will be using. So first and foremost, they don't need a bunch of filler or corn that is simply going to shoot right through them and end up on the kennel floor. That is regardless of the time of year.

Higher fat, means higher calories and therefore energy. If you're hunting them hard, they'll need it. If you're are not, you can cut them back on the fat content in the Summer. However, in the winter time, you'll be amazed how many calories are burned by shivering to keep warm. So, even if you're not hunting them, they'll need the calories to stay warm. Certainly a nice fat layer insulates them, but how many of our dogs are fat at the end of, or during the season. And even if they are, they'll still shiver to keep warm and you'll have to fuel that shivering.

If you're not hunting them hard in the Summer and they need less calories for energy, then you can cut them back on the fat content. If you are hardly hunting them at all, you won't need all the protein to rebuild and maintain muscle mass, so you can cut them back on that first number as well. Like Jay, I've heard that higher protein can damage the kidneys, but I'm not sure how or why. It could be simply becaues they have to process and remove, what they're body is not consuming.

Now... you can play it safe and keep the protein levels up, as well as the amount you feed them, put you'll have to shovel a lot more. So monitor, how fat or skinny they are, but also monitor how much is being wasted by simply landing on the kennel floor.

Treat them like a car... if you want performance, give them better fuel. But if you're not driving it, stop filling the tank!

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Posted by Jamie Smallwood on 03-22-2013 07:58 PM:

David that's really good info thanks

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