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Posted by everett on 03-06-2013 04:06 AM:

studs' what studs open here there and yonder drifting and fall treed with a coon

Doing a little research, what studs dogs are out there that open on a track, move the track in quick opening about every 75 to 125 yards, then fall treed with a coon on a high percentage of the time and chop on tree. And are fairly Independent.

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Posted by BIG$BLUES on 03-06-2013 04:09 AM:

That is sure enuff the right kind

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Posted by Craig Edwards on 03-06-2013 05:04 AM:

Re: studs' what studs open here there and yonder drifting and fall treed with a coon

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Originally posted by everett
Doing a little research, what studs dogs are out there that open on a track, move the track in quick opening about every 75 to 125 yards, then fall treed with a coon on a high percentage of the time and chop on tree. And are fairly Independent.

Henry drifts on a cold track, opening here and there until he gets it going or gets it treed. He opens hot on a hot track. Henry is Smokey River bred.
Drifting a track is bred in a dog, but it is a trait that must be developed, and improves with age and practice. In my opinion, you can't teach a dog to drift a track. Old Diamond Jim sure put this characteristic in his pups.

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Posted by everett on 03-06-2013 02:42 PM:

meal ticket

In my opinion this style of hound is our meal ticket as for as comp dogs. close in on a coon, crowd him and make him climb....Gerald

Posted by Tom Jones on 03-06-2013 02:59 PM:

runnin bullet 2

Produces this but if its hot, the ones i have had from him will open more like its hot. If its a cold to medium track they will do just like you described and most wont open until theyre out front

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Posted by Surveyor on 03-06-2013 03:35 PM:

Re: studs' what studs open here there and yonder drifting and fall treed with a coon

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Doing a little research, what studs dogs are out there that open on a track, move the track in quick opening about every 75 to 125 yards, then fall treed with a coon on a high percentage of the time and chop on tree. And are fairly Independent.

That about describes Piazon perfectly. The only thing one wonders about sometimes with one that just opens here and there is if the coon they tree is the same one they first opened on, but since they end up under one pretty quick you don't loose much sleep wondering.

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Posted by Blacklabel on 03-06-2013 03:47 PM:

Re: Re: studs' what studs open here there and yonder drifting and fall treed with a coon

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Originally posted by Surveyor
since they end up under one pretty quick you don't loose much sleep wondering.

Ive never lost much...

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Posted by blue blue on 03-06-2013 04:02 PM:

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Posted by everett on 03-06-2013 04:04 PM:

mike

Grnitech pr' Mad Dog coon poppin Wacko (shelly) will be bred to John II soon, we want to get this cross made, her next heat cycle after that I am going breed her out side our line, these are the trait,s I want to breed for, this is a lot how she hunts,would you consider shipping chilled semen when the time comes.....Gerald

Posted by Roy Clifton on 03-06-2013 05:35 PM:

Stud

Smoke has never been shy about any of these traits mor does he lack any of this ability. So far in his pups tjat are beong hunted tjey can and do the same thing.
Smoke has won alot of his cast doin this and the other dogs runnin circles trying to figure out what is goin on.

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Posted by Surveyor on 03-06-2013 06:50 PM:

Re: mike

quote:
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Grnitech pr' Mad Dog coon poppin Wacko (shelly) will be bred to John II soon, we want to get this cross made, her next heat cycle after that I am going breed her out side our line, these are the trait,s I want to breed for, this is a lot how she hunts,would you consider shipping chilled semen when the time comes.....Gerald

Yes, we can do that. Forget the cost, but I did it once and it was a bit expensive. Frozen is also an option.

Posted by joeinmo on 03-07-2013 01:43 AM:

pie

i hunted with pie and it was just like mike said he just bumped here and there on the track and then he just exsploded on tree. and he was a a very hard tree dog. cant go wrong with him boys.

Posted by everett on 03-07-2013 04:37 PM:

Thabks Guy,s

for the responses, My main Agenda with this is to breed for top level comp. hound,s that get treed with a coon fairly quick, our line is full of the trait,s, But no line is without room to improve, and I believe there are some hounds out there that can strengthen and progress our effort,s, Maybe if I get lucky I can make a hunt with some of these studs and see for myself, that does not mean I don,t believe what they are saying about their hound, It,s just a level of commitment to try and make that perfect cross, thanks again, I will be in touch, some phone number,s to reach you guy,s would help also.......Gerald

Posted by DRP on 03-07-2013 06:44 PM:

Mine and Lee Smith's Woody dog will do just this.. My other Dual Ch male I had outta Bullet II would do the same.
Woody is just flat out quick at it though!

Posted by kengregory on 03-07-2013 10:30 PM:

beaver creek blue johnny reb....(grandson to bullet II)

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Posted by pineycreek on 03-12-2013 12:16 PM:

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this bullet dog im hunted can and will move a ccon track the longest ive walked with him is 600 yards and thats from the truck to the first tree and then second tree and then back to truck hes a nice and a proving dog in the comp world

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